推 daemonchen:好清楚的解說啊！拍拍手先~~ 其實好球員的起點都差不多 07/02 11:47
→ daemonchen:重點是入隊後的培訓，要衝單個球員能力就用1個訓練位置 07/02 11:49
→ daemonchen:但是這樣對球隊的發展影響比較不好，看個人取捨囉！ 07/02 11:50
→ daemonchen:補充一下，俺的財政一直窘迫就是因為用的是6級教練… 07/02 11:51
→ daemonchen:新手就算了，有點閒錢想要標6級教練的人請備150萬預算 07/02 11:53
→ daemonchen:運氣好50萬可以標到，運氣差遇到大款…超過預算就標別 07/02 11:55
→ daemonchen:的吧！ 07/02 11:55
補充教練的事情
其實我之前有玩過六級教練的競標, 雖然沒有真的標到
但是我覺得薪水普通的50 -80萬應該可以標到
重點可能還是要抓人少的時間點進場
然後教練薪水浮動很大, 六級的話也有四五萬薪水的, 那種應該成交價就比較低
找教練比較困難的應該是要把未來的花費也算進去
一級教練每週薪水會加1%, 二級是1.25% , 依此類推, 所以六級是2.25%
算起來每兩週薪水會倍增,
(據官方情報, 會有停止增加的一天, 但似乎沒人知道什麼時候會停XD)
當薪水升到多少的時候要放手, 下一位會更好? 就要留給大家精算了XD
順帶一提, 聽說 7級教練好像薪水偏高的要 300萬起跳?@@
我自己是覺得我可能會升到 I以後再考慮六級以後的世界吧XD
畢竟經濟上撐不住的話就不用談養球員了orz
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補上我本來po文時沒找到的常數表 (不過可能不是最新資料)
跳投 投距 外防 控球 運球 傳球 內投 內防 籃板 火鍋 常數
C 1,000 1,000 1,006 1,003 1,000 1,000 1,133 1,134 1,128 1,069 294
PF 1,074 1,003 1,005 1,000 1,007 1,006 1,108 1,117 1,109 1,063 300
SF 1,179 1,082 1,061 1,000 1,000 1,000 1,001 1,061 1,091 1,004 313
SG 1,119 1,138 1,115 1,008 1,013 1,000 1,000 1,007 1,057 1,008 322
PG 1,031 1,044 1,075 1,079 1,038 1,144 1,000 1,000 1,036 1,000 330
算法就是把各項能力常數的能力值次方全部算出來再全部乘起來再乘常數
希望大家都可以養出邀受貴的球員 (逃)
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※ 編輯: MisatoMitumi 來自: 218.174.0.241 (07/02 23:59)
※ 編輯: MisatoMitumi 來自: 218.174.0.241 (07/03 00:00)
推 chris22799:想請問數值裡game shape是代表?感謝 07/03 02:28
顧名思義的話就是代表當前狀態, 手感之類的
game shape高的話就代表在球場上的各種表現會更好
要保持GS的話就要盡量讓把該球員每週上場時間控制在48-60分鐘左右
(上面的 48-60只是我個人經驗, 你可以根據自己的經驗調整)
上太久就會疲勞而降低GS, 上太少就會因為生疏而降低GS
所以根據對手強度調陣容是很重要的,
遇到實力比你差一截的可以放點二軍上去調,
遇到太強自覺沒希望的可以派二軍放掉比賽,
另外如果在國家杯已經被淘汰的話, 友誼賽就是調節上場時間的好時機了~
※ 編輯: MisatoMitumi 來自: 218.174.0.44 (07/03 07:38)
推 daemonchen:上I聯後門票收入會穩定很多，比較能負擔6級以上教練的 07/03 21:51
→ daemonchen:薪水增加。同時也不建議標6級底薪4萬以上的教練…底薪 07/03 21:53
→ daemonchen:都這麼高了，不論漲到多少才換似乎都是太重的經濟重擔 07/03 21:55
→ MisatoMitumi:真的, I聯真的是天堂... 雖然競爭也很激烈orz 07/03 23:49
→ daemonchen:收錢的時候是天堂沒錯啦…被電的時候就是地獄了 QQ" 07/04 17:06
推 chris22799:那再請問如果擺4級教練， 一次練兩個位置，要多久才能 07/04 19:10
→ chris22799:看到球員能力進步阿? 07/04 19:10
因為練某個項目同時可以提升好幾項能力,
所以如果你練的球員是18, 19歲那個等級, 每周有讓他們打滿48分鐘的話...
我覺得剛開始兩個禮拜跳一次能力是可以期待的吧!
偷轉一下外國論壇的文章, 是針對五級教練的orz
但是我覺得沒有差很多啦, 可以自行用經驗修正^^;
以下 JS=跳投能力 JR=跳投距離 OD=外圍防禦 HN=控球能力 DV=運球能力 PS=傳球能力
IS=內線投籃 ID=內線防禦 RB=籃板能力 SB=火鍋能力 ST=體力 FT=罰球能力
All Guesses assume a Level 9/10 trainer and 18/19 year old trainee. (GM edit:
A level 9/10 coach is a lvl 5 coach now.)
Stamina and Free Throws do NOT depend on trainer level.
Guesses:
Team Training
Form:
Trains Practice this week @ ?
Free Throws:
Trains FT @ 2 weeks
Stamina:
Trains ST @ 1-2 weeks
Pressure
PG:
Trains OD @ 2 weeks
Trains ID @ 8+
Trains HN @ 8+
Trains DV @ 8+
PG/SG:
Trains OD @ 3-4 weeks
Trains ID @ 14-16 weeks
Trains HN @ 14-16 weeks
Trains DV @ 14-16 weeks
PG/SG/SF:
Trains OD @ 4-5 weeks
Trains ID @ ?
Trains HN @ ?
Trains DV @ ?
Shotblocking
C:
Trains SB @ 1-2 weeks
Trains ID @ ?
Trains RB @ ?
C/PF:
Trains SB @ 2-3 weeks
Trains ID @ 7-8 weeks
Trains RB @ 7-8 weeks
C/PF/SF:
Trains SB @ ?
Trains ID @ ?
Trains RB @ ?
Inside Defense
C:
Trains ID @ 1-2 weeks
Trains DV @ ?
Trains IS @ ?
Trains SB @ ?
C/PF:
Trains ID @ 2-3 weeks
Trains DV @ 7-8 weeks
Trains IS @ 7-8 weeks
Trains SB @ 7-8 weeks
C/PF/SF:
Trains ID @ ?
Trains DV @ ?
Trains IS @ ?
Trains SB @ ?
Rebounding
C/PF:
Trains RB @ 1.75 weeks (~2.5 weeks for a 24 year old)
Trains ID @ 10 weeks
Trains IS @ 10 weeks
Team:
Trains RB @ ?
Trains ID @ ?
Trains IS @ ?
Inside Scoring
C:
Trains IS @ 1-2 weeks
Trains ID @ ?
Trains JS @ ?
C/PF:
Trains IS @ 2-3 weeks
Trains ID @ 7-8 weeks
Trains JS @ 7-8 weeks
C/PF/SF:
Trains IS @ ?
Trains ID @ ?
Trains JS @ ?
One on One
Guards:
Trains DV @ 2-3 weeks
Trains HN @ 3-4 weeks
Trains JS @ 3-4 weeks
Forwards:
Trains DV @ 1.8 weeks
Trains HN @ 2.3 weeks
Trains IS @ 4-5 weeks
Trains JS @ 4-5 weeks
Team: (78242.4)
Trains DV @ 4 weeks (3 if skill is very low)
Trains HN @ 4-5 weeks
Trains IS @ 14-16 weeks
Trains JS @ 14-16 weeks
Outside Shooting
SG:
Trains JR @ 2-3 weeks
Trains JS @ 4-6 weeks
Trains DV @ 7-8 weeks
Trains HN @ 7-8 weeks
With level 7 trainer:
Trains JR @ 2-3 weeks
Trains JS @ 4-6 weeks
Trains DV @ 8-9 weeks
Trains HN @ 8-9 weeks
PG/SG:
Trains JR @ 3-4 weeks
Trains JS @ 4-5 weeks
Trains DV @ ?
Trains HN @ ?
Team:
Trains JR @ ?
Trains JS @ ?
Trains DV @ ?
Trains HN @ ?
Jump Shot
Guards:
Trains JS @ 2-3 weeks
Trains JR @ 7-8 weeks
Trains HN @ 7-8 weeks
Trains DV @ 7-8 weeks
Forwards:
Trains JS @ 2-3 weeks
Trains JR @ 7-8 weeks
Trains IS @ 7-8 weeks
Wingmen:
Trains JS @ 2-3 weeks
Trains JR @ 7-8 weeks
Trains DV @ 7-8 weeks
Trains HN @ 7-8 weeks
Trians IS @ 7-8 weeks
Team:
Trains JS @ ?
Trains JR @ ?
Trains HN @ ?
Trains DV @ ?
Trains IS @ ?
Ball Handling
PG:
Trains HN @ 1-2 weeks
Trains DV @ ?
Trains OD @ ?
PG/SG:
Trains HN @ 2-3 weeks
Trains DV @ 3-4 weeks
Trains OD @ 7-8 weeks
PG/SG/SF:
Trains HN @ ?
Trains DV @ ?
Trains OD @ ?
Passing
PG:
Trains PS @ 1-2 weeks
Trains HN @ ?
Trains DV @ ?
PG/SG:
Trains PS @ 2-3 weeks
Trains HN @ 7-8 weeks
Trains DV @ 7-8 weeks
Team:
Trains PS @ ?
Trains HN @ ?
推 VDer:I聯也是拼選秀的好地方= =" 07/04 20:43
我覺得II聯目前因為玩家來來去去, 一輪中後段甚至二輪也可以選到天才
如果戰績跟選秀要兼顧可能還是待在II聯...XD
※ 編輯: MisatoMitumi 來自: 122.254.10.134 (07/04 22:16)
※ 編輯: MisatoMitumi 來自: 122.254.10.134 (07/04 22:18)
推 VDer:我剛升I 用穩定的入場率賺錢和墊底拼選秀XD 07/04 23:09