Re: [新聞] Slayers解散

[allqwdd (乳乳)]

1. Why Boxer joined SKT1

- Ganzi joins Slayers, and the Federation tried to punish him for not
transferring properly, but it turns out the transfer didn't have any problem,
but the Fed didn't apologize to Slayers.

Ganzi加入了Slayers，Federation覺得他沒有處理好事情想要懲罰他。
但最後結果是這個轉會是沒有任何問題的。
但Fed那一方並沒有跟Slayers道歉。

- NASL deposit incident: (Mainly she talked with Won Jong Wook, the manager
of Startale, but I'd just write the Federation) the Federation boycotted
NASL, and asked Slayers to join the boycott. Slayers did, but nothing was
earned from the boycott. So Slayers withdrew the boycott in the next season
(NASL3).

NASL押金事件:(這裡Slayers大部分是跟ST的Won Jong Wook談的，但這裡以協會代表。)
協會那邊要求Slayers一起加入杯葛NASL，Slayers也參加了，但最後Slayers甚麼也沒
得到，所以Slayers在第三季就繼續參加NASL。

The Federation ostracized Slayers since then; the progamers in the Federation
did not practice with Slayers anymore. Jessica complained that she didn't
want the progamers on her team to be harmed, so she would disband the team,
and the Federation could take the players from Slayers.
She also mentioned she would sue the people involved for the problems with
her sponsor after the aforementioned disband. The Federation apologized, but
they still covertly prevent their players from practising with Slayers. Even
Sleep, who is merely staying in Slayers house, is being ostracized.
Jessica has a witness, who moved from the Federation to Slayers, so if the
Federation tries to deny the fact, she would meet them in person.

所以協會開始想要抵制Slayers，計畫是協會底下每一個隊伍的選手都不准跟Slayers
的選手練習。包嫂說她不希望她的選手的權益受到損害，他願意解散戰隊然後讓
協會裡的隊伍去挑選他的隊員們。
她也說她將會要求協會那些有參加抵制他們的隊伍賠償他們贊助商的損失。
協會表面上道歉了，但卻還是在抵制他們。
就連Sleep這個只是住在Slayers宿舍的倒楣鬼也一起被抵制了。
包嫂聲稱他有一位轉到Slayers的前協會戰隊選手說他們私底還是在抵制Slayers。


- The MMA incident: Slayers had Manager J who worked with foreign
assignments. Jessica entrusted Manager J with sponsor affairs. Manager J
later said that sponsors demanded something different from Slayers'
direction. Since Slayers was doing fine at that time, Jessica was curious,
but did not delve deeply into the incident.

MMA事件:Slayers裡的某位經理負責一些戰隊的國外事務，包嫂請這位經哩J負責
一下贊助的事情。而這位J經理跟包嫂回報國外的贊助商對Slayers現在的運作方式
有不同意見。那時候Slayers狀態很好，所以包嫂並沒有深入研究這件事。

Jessica figured that she could use her private money to run the team, and
manage the sponsor affair later. However, Manager J was doing something
doubtful, so Jessica investigated a little.

包嫂認為她可以自己出錢來營運這個戰隊，然後之後再去跟國外的贊助商僑。
然而這位J經理越來越奇怪，所以包嫂就開始深入研究。

Jessica found out that Manager J did not negotiate at all, or purposedly
negotiated badly to cut off the sponsors. Moreover, Manager J told the
Slayers progamers that Jessica embezzled the money from the sponsors.
Even though Slayers clearly was running with the money from Boxer's private
sponsorship, the players believed it, which Jessica couldn't understand.
Jessica was especially disappointed with MMA, who really believed it, and
listened to Manager J who asked MMA and some other players to quit Slayers,
and make a team of their own.

包嫂最後發現J菁裡根本沒有跟國外贊助商有任何的協商，甚至是想要故意搞破壞
讓國外贊助商停止贊助。更誇張的是J經理跟Slayers的其他人說包嫂侵占了那筆
國外贊助商的贊助經費。即使Slayers有用包哥自己的錢在營運，但選手們都相信
包嫂真的侵占了這筆錢。這讓包嫂非常難過，尤其是MMA，他完全相信包嫂幹了這
筆錢去用，也聽了別人跟J經理的意見想要退出Slayers去另起爐灶。


Jessica was more shocked that no players in Slayers told her about this
happening. She thought of sueing the manager, but she didn't for the sake of
her players.

更讓包嫂驚訝的是沒有任何隊員跟包嫂說這件事。他可以告那位經理，但沒辦法
挽回那些想要離開的隊員們。

MMA told about quitting Slayers afterwards, and Jessica's faith in MMA
started to disappear afterwards.

在MMA表達他想要退隊後包嫂對MMA的信心就崩盤了。

MMA's superficial reason for quitting Slayers: 1) They were ostracized by
other teams.

MMA想離隊的理由竟然是:我們被其他戰隊抵制

MMA also had some affair with Crank: Crank wanted to quit gaming. Jessica
listened to him and sent him home, but then figured out that Crank was
looking for a foreign team. When Jessica called Crank, Crank said MMA asked
him to leave Slayers with him.

Crank也有些問題: Crank說他不想當職業選手了，包嫂也聽了他的話並讓他離開宿舍。
然後才發現Crank是想要加入國外戰隊。然後包嫂打給Crank，Crank說是MMA要他跟他
一起離開Slayers。

When Jessica asked MMA, MMA denied that. Recently, Crank called Jessica that
Jessica tried to tie him into the Ryung, Alicia, MMA problem with him, and
shouted at her. Boxer took the phone, and Crank said the same thing to him.

MMA卻不承認。最近Crank打給包嫂說包嫂幹嘛想要把他、MMA、ALicia、Ryung一直綁
在這裡並且對包嫂大聲吼叫。後來包哥接了電話，Crank也是繼續重複一樣的話。

Boxer was really shocked because he devoted all his time and billions of
money to run the team, but the players would only turn around and curse at
him.

包哥對這非常驚訝，他花了大把時間跟大把銀子來營運這個戰隊，但最後卻變成這樣。
選手甚至在咒罵他。

They decided to remove MMA from the team, but MMA did not return for days.
And when he finally returned, Boxer told MMA that you are demoted to B-team,
so you should go home. MMA said he would just quit the team right away, but
Boxer told him that he can't because of the contract.
MMA said it wasn't a contract, it was rather a slave contract. But Jessica
mentioned that although the contract said to take a small portion of players'
prize money, Jessica did not take any money from the contract.

他們決定要讓MMA暫時離開這個戰隊，但MMA也好幾天沒有回來。
過了一陣子他終於回來後，包哥跟MMA說你被降到二軍了，所以請你離開宿舍。
MMA說他想要退隊比較快，但包哥表示你有合約在身。
MMA說那根本是奴隸合約，但包嫂跟他說那個合約裡面有寫戰隊可以從你得到的獎金
抽取一部分，但他們每次都沒有這麼做。

So Boxer joined SKT1.

所以萬念俱灰的包哥就去了SKT1。

- Alicia and Ryung:
Alicia was fine at first, but as he went to foreign tournaments, he wasn't
fine anymore and he was really dissatisfied. When Jessica asked why, Alicia
answered that when he returns to Korea, the manager did not pick him up.
Jessica thought that was preposterous, and sent Alicia home. The contract
would be renewed automatically unless Alicia calls her, which he didn't. But
Jessica would not renew the contract and will dismiss Alicia from the team,
due to a recent happening that cannot be opened right now.
It is a really serious incident, but she would not mention it unless it is
necessary.

談談Alicia跟Ryung
Alicia一開始很正常，但他去打了國外的比賽後就不太正常了。
他開始對戰隊感到不滿。包嫂問他為什麼，Alicia回答說他回國的時候沒有人
去載他。包嫂認為這非常可笑，然後也讓Alicia離開宿舍回家。
至於合約要怎麼改要等到Alicia跟他聯絡，但Alicia並沒有跟包嫂聯絡。
然後包嫂就把Alicia從戰隊開除了，這是最近發生的事情，還沒公開。
這是非常嚴重的事，包嫂目前能不提就盡量不提。


-Why Clide went to KT:
Clide was friendly with MMA, which made Jessica anxious. Jessica thought
Clide should not be the same as MMA. Clide had many things to take care of,
so Jessica persuaded him to pursue another dream, so he joined KT.

Clide為什麼去KT?
Clide跟MMA很麻吉，這讓包嫂擔心，包嫂不希望Clide步上MMA的後塵，所以讓他去
追逐他自己的夢想，他就這樣跑去了KT。


-Misunderstanding of players from Slayers:
Ganzi, Taeja, Golden, and Sleep had no problem. They wanted to move teams, so
Jessica let them.

至於其他的那些隊員，Ganzi、Taeja、Golden和Sleep都沒甚麼問題，他們想要轉隊。
包嫂就讓他們轉了。


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→ wtao:(」￣□￣)/喔~~喔喔~~喔喔~~喔喔~爪爪
→ wtao:Slayers 之亂要來了嗎??
推 jsjs168:阿勇呢？
推 capssan:艾莉西亞比較誇張 曇花一現就拿翹了= =
推 bluepewind:MMA說合約是奴役合約那邊翻得怪怪的           10/17 22:46
推 Lattecafem:Alicia因為沒人去載他 靠北了一下就被開除了XDDD
推 corner0111:出國一趟回來就變大尾了膩?
推 yechu2003:阿莉西亞事件真有梗
→ accgh:Alicia是去國外比賽還是接受腦部改造手術阿XDD
推 wtao:真的假的 Alicia 當初可是跟MKP搶亞軍的說
推 koko0:Alica是找不到其他詆毀的點 才用這個梗嗎?
推 kullan:Alicia的部分真的滿好笑的XD
→ capssan:我也覺得艾莉西亞只是想找個點跟隊友一起戰隊伍而已
推 GoogleBigGod:Alicia理由真好笑 XD
→ momogo11:ALICA怎感覺有點中二..
推 aCCQ:有人要挖他吧 他心動了 所以故意裝個樣子讓人開除他
推 wumacomsum:Alicia事件莫名好笑XDDD
→ momogo11:說不定他只是抱怨一下而已
推 jkl852:滿厲害的阿 mma想退都退不掉
推 gunfighter:現在聽到的都是包嫂的說法 難免會比較偏向戰隊
→ gunfighter:然後選手自己傲嬌的說法
推 WindSignal:現在就是看這些被點名的人敢不敢出來對質了
推 WindSpread:Alicia：為什麼人家搭機回來沒半個人接我T _ T
→ WindSpread:包嫂：o_O?#（震怒
→ WindSignal:不過包哥對於戰隊投注的心力應該沒人會否定他的
推 a524528:我覺得艾利蝦是想加其他戰隊，包嫂不同意炒起來才找這理由
推 kullan:真的變成愛莉了 為什麼把拔不來接我 人家生氣了
推 finaltrial:樓上wwwww
※ 編輯: allqwdd         來自: 1.170.7.225          (10/17 22:52)
→ capssan:包嫂自己是提到說要是選手想轉隊只要跟她說她都會幫忙
推 wtao:========XX嫂 & A經理互相陷害 幹! 這不是八點檔才有嘛======
→ capssan:像桿子 太假她都有居中幫點忙
推 shoe:18104也提到Alicia拒打GSTL
→ capssan:但是這是她自己說的拉.. 實際是怎樣誰~知~道~呢
推 Flyingheart:如果轉到國外戰隊的人都過很好 賺很大
→ Flyingheart:那剩下的會不會想轉隊呢
推 Ohshima:J經理的出發點是幹嘛這點可以追深一點 沒事幹嘛這樣搞
→ Flyingheart:Slayers的問題會不是包叟幫太多人轉隊成功了?
→ Ohshima:對自己也沒好處的說 這邊Jessica單方面講怪怪的
→ allqwdd:不一定沒好處吧
→ capssan:不一定喔  搞不好他真的是聯盟派來臥底的..
推 sezna:J不是要挖MMA和其他人出去新開戰隊嗎
推 chuckni:這麼說好像也不對?現在比Slayers窮的大有人在，也沒見其他
推 a524528:我也覺得J經理那邊有問題怎麼可能一個外人一說大家就相信
→ chuckni:隊這樣頻繁轉會的
→ capssan:我覺得跟戰隊管理方式有關吧 SLAYERS嚴格出名的不是嗎
推 eminemqoo:SC2戰隊轉會很多
→ capssan:完全軍事化管理的 十幾歲的小孩忍幾年就爆發了
→ accgh:我覺得重點是ESF禁止其他戰隊跟SlayerS的選手練習
→ accgh:這對選手來說蠻傷的
→ capssan:可是我又想到..oGs不是還跟s戰隊很要好的踢了足球嗎..
→ momogo11:練習應該是其次吧 還不是有開分身偷偷練?
→ WarIII:所以OGS也GG了阿
推 eminemqoo:去年新聞拼圖有公開說感謝別的戰隊選手幫他練習
→ momogo11:恩 該不會OGS也是被搞死的吧XD
→ momogo11:看胖子還是FORGG要不要出來爆料
→ eric1112:OGS當初的官方說詞是最大資助者去贊助LOL了
推 eminemqoo:MMA有直接點名TSL跟fou(併到fxo)戰隊選手幫他練習
推 kermomo:感覺是選手沒薪水領吧~不然好好的不需要轉隊，MMA也不會說
推 capssan:我猜別隊的不敢說話拉 頂多S戰隊自己的出來說話而已
→ kermomo:這是奴隸合約
噓 handfoxx:後半部有很大的問題阿  包嫂一定有些事情沒說出事實XDDDD
推 eminemqoo:Clide去KT的理由有點神奇啊XD
推 ChenWay:受害最大的是包夫婦吧 用老本經營還被擺了一道
推 JFNfrog:SlayerS得嚴格程度應該跟k家有得比
→ conanhide:原來EsF也會搞抵制和排擠喔
推 capssan:如果是真的那EsF當初被KeSPA欺負也是罪有應得
推 mysterydream:阿哩西亞 傲驕喔 哈
推 whitehusky:ESF如果真的這樣搞...真的就失望了
推 q253upng:ESF和KeSPA應該也是差不多的東西啦 看誰比較壞而已
→ capssan:忽然覺得TeSL真棒 打法雖然莫名奇妙可是好和平 不會搞這種
推 aa1477888:因為TeSL的金主背後是互利的關係 而且早有交情
推 finaltrial:台灣星海圈就那麼小而已啊，頂多Q媽事件那種等級的抓馬
→ allqwdd:說不定大家都不知道而已 >.^
→ finaltrial:如果是公司層級之間就不知道惹，科科
→ aa1477888:加上選手和選手間其實都算熟 加上台灣人的個性 鬥不下去
→ aa1477888:像上次NEXON併購橘子事件 樂陞跳出來講話
→ aa1477888:樂陞又是華義拉進來的 關係不算差
→ aa1477888:但是TT和其他家的感情好不好 我就不知道了XD
推 kingworm:[新聞] 離隊賠50萬  電競選手只是另類台勞
→ aa1477888:西門莫再提啊XDDDDDDDDDD
推 shulado:老包出了billions of money!!2500萬台幣起跳啊
推 a524528:師哥在FB也有回文說TT有問題阿，所以他說別太苛責TT的選手
推 a790813a:Gumiho：所以老子當時AK Slayers水分很重囉？
→ dakkon:tt黑到不行,老外也知道了