Fw: [情報] 菲律賓免簽 已確定!

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作者: rushhour (等待夏天的海風) 看板: Philippines
標題: Re: [情報] 菲律賓免簽 已確定!
時間: Fri Jun 22 00:16:45 2012

※ 引述《ninifly (最愛nini)》之銘言：
: 第一手消息: 持台灣護照到菲律賓觀光，30天內免簽證。

一定是假的 至少到今天還是


來看看MECO怎麼談台灣護照免簽證這件事的 (2012/06/15)
http://meco.ph/mecog/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=935&Itemid=155

網站貼自菲律賓每日詢問報 不過應該MECO跟菲國外交部的態度就是這樣

A celebration—and some questions
Philippine Daily Inquirer
A14 Opinion
June 15, 2012
By Rina Jimenez-David

Goodwill and bonhomie may have marked the celebration of Philippine
Independence Day in Taipei, but in actuality, there is a bit of tension
between the two governments over the issue of visa-less entry for Taiwanese
to the Philippines.

....... 對於免簽證 兩國還有若干緊張


In 2009, the Taiwanese government granted visa-less entry to citizens of
certain countries, including the Philippines, provided these visitors showed
they had valid visas to any of these countries: the United States, Canada,
Japan, the United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand; or held a Schengen visa to
Europe; and provided they had never worked as a blue-collar worker in Taiwan.
Since then—and I understand this was a campaign pledge made by President Ma
Ying-jeou—Taiwanese officials have been pressuring officials in other
countries to grant visa-free entry to residents of Taiwan.

台灣2009推出菲國護照持有美加日英紐澳歐等國簽證可免簽入台


In the Philippines, the new resident representative of Teco (Taipei Economic
and Cultural Office), Ambassador Raymond L.S. Wang, who arrived in the
country last January, has stepped up his efforts to pressure the government.
This is certainly part of his duties as Taiwan’s representative, but what
certain quarters are decrying is that Wang is going about it in ways that can
only be described as boorish and overbearing.

台灣駐菲王大使 推動台灣護照免簽的動作 既粗魯又傲慢


Wang, who’s had little previous experience in the foreign ministry, appears
to lack the necessary diplomatic experience and cultural sensitivity.

王大使 缺乏外交經驗 顯得無外交歷練及文化敏感度


At the moment, Meco is formally rejecting the Taiwanese appeal, arguing that
granting visa-free entry to Taiwanese would necessitate granting the same
right to Mainland Chinese. This would open the door to Taiwanese and Chinese
drug and human smuggling syndicates, Meco officials argue, and even with
current visa requirements, our media are already full of stories about
Chinese drug rings, prostitution rings and illegal entrants. This is not to
mention the rampant smuggling of illegal and fake drugs, and unsafe products
ranging from skin-whitening creams to “double-dead” poultry.

馬尼拉駐台代表MECO 正式 拒絕 台灣的提案

指責

1.給台灣免簽就代表必須也給中國護照一樣的免簽
2.你們一旦免簽就會來我們菲律賓  販毒  販賣人口  犯罪
3.即使現在要簽證 你們這些人就已經會來搞 販毒 色情 非法入境
4.更別說那些 走私猖獗 偽藥 黑心商品 (從美白霜到病死雞)


“The Philippines and Taiwan governments and people are good friends,” Meco
officials say, and the visa requirement seems to present no barrier to the
continued arrival of Taiwanese tourists. They cite the 35-percent increase in
arrivals from Taiwan since last year, suggesting that “the visa requirement
is not a deterrent.”

MECO說 "菲律賓跟台灣的政府人民都是好友"

但是

現在要簽證你們台灣人不還是來的很爽! 去年還增加了35%

所以

幹嘛給你們免簽??


Apparently, President Ma and his government view the grant of visa-free entry
to citizens of their country as a matter of prestige and friendship. And yet
he surely must realize that every country has its own unique priorities and
needs to balance its national interests with those of its neighbors and
friends. Good friends should understand this and respect their mutual
interests.

...... 一堆廢話
叫台灣總統對菲律賓主權放尊重點
不給免簽就是不給!



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有一篇馬尼拉指南是我寫的
但是自從台灣犯人遣陸跟香港人被劫殺之後
我近三年再也沒踏足菲律賓

台灣的旅行社跟航空公司
為了短利 總是反向操作
反正台灣人好賺 也不會因為對方國家對台灣的不尊重就抵制 (看看大陸 香港!)
事情發生後一再飛機增班 (一家開發市場賣座了之後 其他家立即跟上)
把長灘島在雨季/西南風季也包裝的像是人間天堂
消費者不要當傻蛋

菲律賓很多地方好玩 超漂亮
絕非僅只長灘島

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我的小心得 非戰文
菲律賓若是真的給台灣免簽我就會再去

但是
個人覺得近期可能性不高
沒有你們這些呆瓜甘願付簽證費 18萬人 兩億多台幣
菲律賓MECO跟總統府吃什麼?

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※ 轉錄者: rushhour (119.14.9.172), 時間: 06/22/2012 00:31:41
→ rushhour:不過仍然希望免簽成真
→ rushhour:針對免簽傳聞的一些小看法
→ lega:這篇報導也是罕見的凶悍（無禮），這家是大報嗎？理由其實都
→ lega:很怪：簽證費部份，菲律賓給了一堆國家免簽；談免簽也不會是
→ lega:駐台代表處出面「拒絕」；王樂生也是職業外交官，毫無歷練？
→ mykorianda:菲律賓百姓ok很和善!    政府和官僚就...可悲的國家
→ lega:要更正一下，這不是報導，是專欄文章。
推 kolen:我也是之前發誓菲沒免簽我就不去XD
→ nowend:給台灣就要給中國...夠慘....慘的不知道是台灣還是菲律賓
→ rushhour:MECO引用報紙專欄 沒有認同的意味?
→ bryansun:最好給台灣就要給中國..why?
→ bryansun:給台灣看中國臉色,那就差不多...
→ bryansun:當初拿馬來西亞免簽的時候,馬國就大方的說要中國同意..
→ goat403:有人可以去詢問看看外交部的看法嗎?感覺國格受辱.用詞真重