[新聞] Embraer將專注發展Re-engine之ERJ Family

[ATR72 (文人相輕自古皆然)]

簡單整理一下重點:

1. Embraer將放棄發展130-160席窄體客機，轉而發展"第二代"更換新發動機之ERJ
   Family。
2. 因為波音決定發展於2017年投入市場的737 MAX，Embraer決定不要加入市場當砲灰。
3. 所以現在只剩龐巴迪的CS和中國的C919將和A/B雙雄競爭
   (俄羅斯的MS-21表示:    )。
4. Re-engine的ERJ Family有可能會將ERJ-195延長機身使其載客量達130席。
5. 第二代的ERJ Family可能為ERJ-170和ERJ-190之延長版, 預計於2018年投入市場。
6. Re-engine的發動機將不一定會選擇先前使用的GE公司。
7. 新的發動機將擁有更大的直徑, 因此ERJ Family可能必須延長起落架以維持發動機
   與地面的空間。


Embraer commits to re-engined E-Jets

By:   Stephen Trimble Washington DC

Embraer has confirmed plans to abandon development of a narrowbody competitor
to Airbus and Boeing and instead focus on an estimated $2 billion programme
to deliver a re-engined and possibly stretched version of the Embraer 170 and
190 families by 2018.

The move leaves the Bombarder CSeries and Comac C919 alone to challenge the
narrowbody duopoly of the 737 and A320.

Embraer considered developing a rival product in the 130-160-seat segment for
several years, but the "window of opportunity" collapsed after Boeing decided
in August to deliver the re-engined 737 Max in 2017, said Paulo Cesar Souza e
Silva, president of Embraer commercial aircraft.

"We aren't seeing at this moment a good business or commercial case in order
to move forward and develop a large commercial narrowbody," Silva said. "Our
decision is to no longer to focus on the development of a larger jet. We will
focus on our current segment."

Embraer instead will target continuing development of a loosely-defined
"second-generation" of the E-Jet family, he said.

The E-170, E-175, E-190 and E-195 jets straddle the 70-120 seat market, but
the re-engined family could stretch to 130 seats, Silva said.

"[A stretched version] can be a possibility. Of course nothing is yet
decided," Silva said, before adding: "I believe many of our customers would
like to have such an aircraft."

Embraer has started working with E-Jet customers to start defining the
performance goals and technical characteristics of the new aircraft family.
Incorporating a composite airframe is among the improvements being
considered, Silva said.

But the most important change already decided is to replace the General
Electric CF34 with an all-new engine. GE is currently developing an advanced
turbofan in the same power class called the "Passport". However, Silva
declined to commit to using that powerplant as the default engine for the
second-generation E-Jet.

"We are deeply assessing this," Silva said. "Of course, GE is already our
major supplier, but we are looking at other options also [and] assessing
them."

The re-engined aircraft will have a larger fan diameter, which will require
Embraer to install taller landing gear to allow sufficient ground clearance.
Despite committing to the second-generation E-Jet, Embraer will reconsider
its options if the plans of its competitors start to change.

"If there is any window of opportunity," Silva said, "we could reconsider our
views and change our decision."


http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/embraer-commits-to-re-engined-e-
jets-364603/


另一篇相關的報導。

Embraer will pursue re-engined E-jet

By Karen Walker | November 11, 2011

Embraer is dropping plans to enter the 130-160 seat narrowbody market and
instead focusing on developing a re-engined variant of its E-jet family that
could be ready in 2018, the company announced Thursday.

The Brazilian manufacturer has been analyzing the potential of developing a
narrowbody for some time, but Commercial Aviation president Paulo Cesar Souza
e Silva said that recent changes in the marketplace, with Airbus and Boeing
both now developing re-engined versions of their Airbus A320 and Boeing 737,
make clear it would be “very challenging” for a new entrant to persuade
airlines to switch to an all new aircraft type.

“Our shareholders would probably not like this venture,” he said.

Instead, Embraer will focus on developing a version of its E-jet family that
would be equipped with a new engine, new landing gear and other new
technology. It could potentially be a stretch of the E-195, de Souza e Silva
said, and it would consolidate Embraer’s market leadership in the 70-130
seat market.

De Souza e Silva said anticipated entry into service date would be around
2018. A launch customer could be announced around mid-2012. “We are seeing a
lot of interest in developing this type of aircraft,” he said.

A name for the new variant has yet to be decided—for now, Embraer refers to
it as a new generation E-jet—and an engine supplier has also yet to be
picked. Embraer has a long-established relationship with GE and the CF34, but
de Souza e Silva said other options are being considered.

De Souza de Silva said the manufacturer was in talks with its customers to
define the future requirements of the 70-120 seat segment.

“We will further refine our findings. There are a lot of details we don’t
know yet because we want to listen to our customers, but we have a rough idea
of what this aircraft should be,” he said.

De Souza de Silva added that there would remain a lot of commonality with the
existing E-jet family. “We are convinced this is the way to go forward,
keeping the same aircraft but upgrading it,” he said.


http://atwonline.com/aircraft-engines-components/news/embraer-will-pursue-re
-engined-e-jet-1110


不知道華信的8架ERJ-190租約到期後，
還會不會考慮繼續使用ERJ系列，
應該不至於全部換成738吧。

不然華航華信兩兄弟就一起換Re-engine的飛機吧
737 MAX and ERJ-190X GO!!


個人還蠻喜歡ERJ-190的，華信應該也用得還習慣吧。


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推 flycrew813:華信的ERJ是用租的?我怎記得是用買的?!還是我搞錯了?
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