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過年期間來跟大家介紹一下我的大哥哥好了(誤)。 簡單整理一下重點。 1.ATR持續地研發90席螺旋槳飛機,計畫在2017投入商業飛行。 2.這款飛機將會比ATR-72-600大(廢話),有著更長的機身,也許會在地板下騰出放行李 的空間喔(真的假的)。 3.目前已經發帖子給PW及GE討論要更強大的發動機,RR覺得寂寞孤單覺得冷。 4.ATR預計在未來的20年有3100架螺旋槳飛機的需求,其中包括500架50席機,1000架90 席機,和1600架70席機(BBD表示: 所以我不玩DHC-8-100/200/300了嘛)。 5.到時候開發新飛機的技術,將會被延用至ATR42和ATR72上。 6.目前BBD公司也有意發展大型螺旋槳飛機。 ATR outlines 90-seater development plans ATR is continuing to work on the definition of a 90-seat turboprop which could see entry into service by around 2017. Speaking at the airframer's annual results briefing in Paris on 18 January, chief executive Filippo Bagnato said that it was targeting the end of the year for a decision from its shareholders, EADS and Alenia Aermacchi, on whether to launch the programme. "The definition is vital: without a clear understanding of the major systems, it is just an empty cabin," he said. "We have an idea of what it will look like and the various options for the engine." The aircraft would be larger than the current ATR 72-600, he said, with a longer fuselage and the possibility of stowing luggage under the floor. ATR has already entered discussions with incumbent engine provider Pratt & Whitney Canada and rival GE over possible powerplant options for the 90-seater, said Bagnato. However, he ruled out any involvement from Rolls-Royce at this stage. "What we have said to GE and Pratt is that we don't want any surprises - we don't want to reinvent the wheel. "ATR's dimensions are such that we can't imagine the risk of developing a [completely] new type of engine," he said. A number of new components - including the turbine and combustion chamber - are in development by P&WC's sister company Pratt & Whitney for its PW1000G geared turbofan, itself sharing a common core with the 1,000lb-thrust-rated PW800. These, and a separately-designed compressor, are likely to find their way onto any new P&WC turboprop, said Bagnato. The current generation of ATR 42-600 and 72-600 are powered by the Pratt & Whitney Canada PW127 engine. ATR forecasts a market over the next 20 years for around 3,100 regional turboprops: 500 in the 50-seat range, 1,000 90-seaters and 1,600 with 70 seats. Head of sales John Moore said customers are increasingly expressing interest in a higher-capacity turboprop. He said: "They can see a real need for a bigger aircraft. We are getting some pressure from them but that helps us promote the case to our shareholders." However, Bagnato said that it will not neglect its core market. "We have to be competitive over the next 20 years with the 50- and 70-seaters," he said. Any technological advancements introduced on a 90-seat aircraft would flow down to the smaller variants, he added. Bagnato anticipates it would take around four years of development to bring a 90-seat aircraft to market. Rival Bombardier has previously indicated it is looking at developing a larger version of its 70-seat Dash 8 Q400 for entry into service in the second half of the decade. Chris Seymour, head of market analysis with Flightglobal's Ascend consultancy business, said a 90-seat aircraft with "more efficient engines" would be the "next logical step". "A highly efficient, high-capacity aircraft for short-haul routes should be a very attractive prospect," he said. http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/atr-outlines-90-seater-development- plans-367122/ 華信表示: 我的ERJ-190好像租約快要到期了(大誤)。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 118.167.197.216
starbuckser0:不曉得ATR92的ID被註冊沒(誤) 01/25 13:26
Chiardy:內舉不避親,推一個 01/25 13:29
nyrnu:推,立榮的ATR72-600是今年交機吧? 01/25 15:26
CORSA:這款飛機一但被推出來,ARJ-21與SSJ大概就沒戲可唱了~ 01/25 17:42
rocky9137No2:XD 01/25 19:53
tonmeister:油價一貴,省油就無敵了啊!說不定休斯的大力神會再現! 01/25 20:25
allencho1131:聽說是今年沒錯 01/25 21:05
Bcl2:這東西還有另一個不錯的用途: 海上巡邏機,而且比P-8更好用 01/25 23:50
kxz:ATR92-212 /w PW 129M...(妄想過度被拖走 01/25 23:56
ATR72:ATR42好像就已經有海上巡邏機的樣子 01/26 01:27
Bcl2:但92可以打P-3C這種等級的需求..如果續航力有那種能耐.. 01/26 02:11
flyover01:有P-3這種需求等級的國家其實不是很多,而許多小國家 01/26 13:58
flyover01:根本養不起海上巡邏/反潛機隊.台灣有很長時間用C-119兼 01/26 13:59
flyover01:辦巡邏機角色 01/26 13:59
flyover01:反潛機就不只是載台本身的問題,聽音設備就是大學問 01/26 14:00
maxis7141:奈及利亞/南非/葡萄牙/義大利有使用ATR42當海巡機 01/26 16:34
maxis7141:哥倫比亞政府也用ATR當緝毒/抓走私的空中載具 01/26 16:35
Piin:不只119,130H現在還是有在做岸巡的 01/26 19:43
flyover01: 其實是為熟飛及增加飛行時數找藉口(誤) 01/26 22:30
flyover01:關於ATR-42海巡的利基就是:小又便宜啊;要上打P-3那種 01/26 22:31
flyover01:層級就會是另一個問題了;不是沒需求,而是需求是否大到 01/26 22:32
flyover01: 能賺錢 01/26 22:32
CORSA:話說四發的C-130H有所謂客機版嗎?載客量會是多少座位? 01/26 23:55
tonmeister:樓上說的兩發型的話,我就想到Con Air 的C-123了。XD.. 01/27 10:42
Bcl2:C-130有民用貨機的版本 型號是"L-100" 01/27 11:48
maxis7141:C-130有載客貨櫃模組,普通等級好像最多可以載個50~70人 01/27 17:18
maxis7141:若是VIP等級大概裝個10來人,台灣聽說也有買一套給總統用 01/27 17:19