[新聞] 香港航空可能取消A380訂單

[ATR72 (文人相輕自古皆然)]

簡單來說，
就是因為歐洲要收排碳稅，
所以老共不高興，
只好拿A380的訂單來開刀了，
香港航空之前已經確認的10架A380訂單可能要取消了，
Hainan Airlines Co Ltd  無奈但也莫可奈何。


http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/01/uk-hongkong-airbus-idUSLNE82000X201
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China-backed HK Airlines may dump A380 order -paper

By Alison Leung and Fang Yan

HONG KONG | Thu Mar 1, 2012 8:28am EST

(Reuters) - Hong Kong Airlines Ltd has threatened to cancel an aircraft order
with Airbus in the latest escalation of tension over the European Union's
decision to make flights pay for their carbon emissions, the South China
Morning Post reported.

The Hong Kong-based regional carrier, backed by China's fourth-largest
carrier Hainan Airlines Co Ltd (600221.SS), said it was under pressure to
cancel its order for 10 Airbus A380s with a list value of $3.8 billion, the
Hong Kong newspaper said.

"We cannot do something which is against our country's interests," it quoted
airline president Yang Jianhong as saying.

The A380 superjumbo is European aircraft maker Airbus's (EAD.PA) flagship
passenger jet.

A spokeswoman for Airbus said the Hong Kong Airlines orders "have been placed
in the order book and they remain there".

Others refused to comment.

"I cannot confirm this and I have no comment on this," said Kenneth Thong,
Hong Kong Airlines' head of corporate governance and international affairs.

In Brussels, Isaac Valero-Ladron, EU spokesman for climate action, said the
European Commission did not comment on "possible commercial decisions".

China has said it would not buy Airbus aircraft because of the EU's Emissions
Trading Scheme ETS.L, which requires all flights using EU airports to pay for
their carbon costs.

Plans to announce the high-profile A380 deal between Airbus and Hong Kong
Airlines were called off at the Paris Airshow last June because of China's
anger over the ETS, industry sources said.

But Hong Kong Airlines confirmed its order for the double-decker A380 some
months afterwards.

Analysts say airlines typically have to pay a deposit of at least 5 percent
when they place a firm order.

CHINA SOUTHERN

So far, China Southern Airlines Co Ltd (1055.HK) (600029.SS) (ZNH.N) is the
only mainland Chinese airline to order the A380. Two of the five planes it
ordered are already in service on the Beijing-Guangzhou route.

"The third A380 is arriving today and will start serving the Beijing-Hong
Kong route tomorrow. There is no plan to cancel the other two," a spokesman
of the airline told Reuters.

The Airbus-Boeing (BA.N) duopoly in the supply of larger commercial airlines
means China has to rely on the European and U.S. firms to meet fast-growing
demand for civil aviation.

In February, China banned its airlines from participating in the European
Commission's ETS unless they were given approval.

At a daily briefing on Thursday, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei
repeated China's opposition.

"The facts show that Europe's actions are unpopular and will have no effect,"
he said. "We hope that Europe can face squarely the international community's
concerns and devote themselves to solving the issue, not further complicating
it."

Apart from China, other major powers, including the United States and India,
have objected to the EU's scheme on the grounds it breaches national
sovereignty, but Europe's highest court in December said the EU law was valid.

Although Commission officials made no comment on the latest threat, they have
said they will modify their law only if the U.N.'s International Civil
Aviation Organization ICAO.L finds a global solution to the problem of rising
airline emissions.

Commission director-general for climate action Jos Delbeke said this week the
EU would respond to retaliation, although he did not specify how.

OTHER LATENT THREATS

Air China Ltd (601111.SS) (0753.HK), China Eastern Airlines Corp Ltd
(600115.SS) (0670.HK) (CEA.N), China Southern and Hainan Airlines -- China's
top four airlines -- would also consider legal action against the EU over the
move to charge for carbon emissions on flights to and from Europe, according
to the China Air Transport Association CATA.L.

The holding company that controls Hong Kong Airlines counts Hainan Airlines
and Hainan Airlines' parent HNA Group among its top shareholders.

The carrier, which had 14 aircraft including six A330-200s and eight Boeing
(BA.N) 737-800s, was taking delivery of eight to 10 more this year, its
spokeswoman told Reuters in January.

It operates scheduled flights to up to 10 cities in China and other parts of
Asia and Europe, including Indonesia, Japan, Singapore, Thailand, Vietnam and
Russia.

The carrier has said it would start daily flights between Hong Kong and
London in March.

The ETS scheme would be unlikely to have a big impact on its customers as the
flights would be all-business class.

In any case, the Commission has made clear the carbon cost per passenger
would be only between 2 and 12 euros, depending on airlines' decisions about
how much to pass on to customers.

(Additional reporting by Ben Blanchard in Beijing, Barbara Lewis in Brussels
and Tim Hepher in Paris)



國泰表示: 小兄弟就跟你說先買滷味鹹酥雞看LH的747-8I怎麼玩，
          再看看要不要買來用嘛，買A380你是要組蚊子機隊喔。

華航表示: 本公司謝絕政治干預購機，業務員請進，參眾議員請回。

復興表示: 買了A380的話，下一次可以分得到金浦航線嗎


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推 stantheman:那歐盟就宣布：空八飛機碳稅減半
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推 nyrnu:中國狠一點的話也可關閉境內領空某些航路拒絕歐籍航空使用
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推 tonmeister:朝令若有錯，夕改又何仿？380狀況已經這麼多了。不意外
推 yuliwang:海航集團本來就有訂747-8i，再追加幾架如何?
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