[新聞] A350相關新聞整理

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好久沒有貼新聞了，整理幾篇關於A350的消息吧。

1.空中巴士不打算再延長A350，儘管A350-1000與A380間有個大洞。

2.空中巴士認為A350-1000採高密度配置可以塞440人，而A380爽爽放，則約400人。

3.空中巴士表示看不到延長A350-1000的市場。

4.空中巴士認為雙重延長機身不會成功，也相信波音不會這麼做。

5.不過其實目前波音正如火如荼地研究拉長777的777X，來和A350-1000競爭。


波音首款雙重延長機身的客機--B767-400ER表示: 是要鞭屍幾次...

EK表示: 我這麼想買777X，空中巴士你給我裝肖唯...


Airbus unconvinced over further A350 stretch

By:   David Kaminski-Morrow Toulouse

Airbus appears to be dismissing the possibility of a further stretch to the
A350, despite the capacity gap between the A350-1000 and the A380.

The A350-1000 will be capable of seating 350 passengers in a typical
three-class configuration, according to the airframer. High-density
arrangements could lift this to 440.

Its A380 has a 525-seat layout, although some carriers have fitted
low-density layouts of just over 400 seats.

While Airbus positioned the A350-900 as the central platform for the
three-member family, the backlog of the smaller A350-800 is eroding in favour
of the larger variants.

But the airframer does not see room for a further stretch beyond the
A350-1000.

"A double stretch has never been shown to work in this industry," claimed
Airbus chief operating officer for customers John Leahy, speaking in Toulouse
on 16 January.

"We couldn't do it. And we don't think [Boeing] could do it either."

The A350-1000 underwent a redesign in 2009 to improve its thrust and range
capabilities but Airbus resisted stretching the fuselage. The -1000 has yet
to achieve convincing sales - a matter Leahy attributes to slot availability
- but the aircraft has attracted orders from Cathay Pacific and Qatar Airways.

Boeing has been considering stretching the 777-300ER, under its 777X project,
to modernise the twinjet and compete against the A350-1000.


http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/airbus-unconvinced-over-further-
a350-stretch-381285/

http://0rz.tw/3RElj


 6.AirAsia表示: 給我A330neo，A350-800是爛飛機。

 7.目前AirAsia X訂購了18架A330和10架A350-900。

 8.亞航認為re-engine的A330 (A330neo)可成功取代A330-200，且比A350-800有搞頭。

 9.亞航覺得A330neo和A350-900是完美組合。

10.空中巴士最近表示，可以把裝在A320的鯊魚鰭裝到A330上，增進氣動效益。

11.不過到目前為止，空中巴士還是不想推出re-engine的A330。


A350-800表示: 亞航你不買就算了，還話這麼多...


AirAsia's Fernandes continues call for A330neo

By:   Siva Govindasamy Singapore


AirAsia chief executive Tony Fernandes is continuing to apply pressure on
Airbus to re-engine its A330 widebody, even though the company appears to be
ruling out the option.

Fernandes, whose AirAsia group has several franchises in countries around
Asia and is one of the most valuable customers for Airbus, is in Toulouse for
"some important meetings" with the European airframer.

Both AirAsia and Fernandes have a stake in AirAsia X, the Malaysia-based
long-haul, low-cost carrier that has a fleet of nine A330-300s. It has orders
for another 18 A330s and 10 of the new-generation Airbus A350-900s.

But Fernandes has been pushing Airbus to come up with a re-engined A330, or
an A330neo, for some time. This, he feels, will be a better option than the
A350-800 that is slated to be a replacement for the longer-range A330-200.
Last year, AirAsia cancelled its orders for the -200 variant as it feels that
they are not economical enough for long-haul services to Europe.

But an A330neo would interest the airline, and Fernandes said in a reply on
his twitter account: "Yes, I want that plane. Honestly, [I] don't think the
A350-800 is a good plane."

He went on to say that the A330neo and A350-900 will be the "perfect
combination" for AirAsia X.

Last week, Airbus chief operating officer for customers John Leahy said that
he will push the company's engineers to look at adapting the sharklets –
 developed for the A320 narrowbody – to the larger A330 twinjet in order to
improve its performance.

Airbus has been tweaking the A330's performance, unveiling a 242t maximum
take-off weight version last year that it aims to deliver before mid-2015.
But Leahy indicates that new engines for the type will be problematic.

"If you say 're-engined', then I'd say 'no'," he says. If the aircraft is
already optimised, he says, "[you] don't put one of these heavy engines on
it".


http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/airasias-fernandes-continues-call-
for-a330neo-381272/

http://0rz.tw/s189G


12.空中巴士將在A330提供裝設鯊魚鰭的選擇，但暫且不談換發動機的事情。

13.目前空中巴士仍持續讓A330更進化，到2015年中時，A330的MTOW將可達242t。

14.空中巴士認為A330會繼續生產到2022年，而且是窮人版的A350。

15.空中巴士表示: 如果你不需要這麼遠的航程，A330是你的答案。


A350-800表示: 那我是富人版的A330嗎...


Airbus keeps options open on A330 sharklets

By:   David Kaminski-Morrow Toulouse

Airbus has yet to rule out completely a possible sharklet wing-tip
modification on the A330 but is not intending to pursue a re-engined version.

Chief operating officer for customers John Leahy says he will "keep pushing
our engineers" to look at adapting the sharklets - developed for the A320 -
to the larger twinjet.

Airbus has been tweaking the A330's performance, unveiling a 242t maximum
take-off weight version last year which it aims to deliver before mid-2015.

But Leahy indicates that new engines for the type - creating a theoretical
A330neo - would be problematic.

"If you say 're-engined', then I'd say 'no'," he says. If the aircraft is
already optimised, he says, "[you] don't put one of these heavy engines on
it".

The sharklet suggestion is still facing resistance within Airbus. Executive
vice-president for programmes Tom Williams says he can "understand the logic"
of the suggestion but is "not so sure on the advantages".

Leahy casually suggests the A330 could still remain in production in 2022,
while Airbus chief Fabrice Brégier says it remains a lower-cost alternative
to the A350.

"If you don't need the full range you can be competitive on many routes with
an A330," he says.


http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/airbus-keeps-options-open-on-a330
-sharklets-381256/

http://0rz.tw/tY3rc


787表示: A350趕快出來炒新聞，幫我分散一些注意力。


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