作者nelsony1216 (nelsonyang1216)
看板Aviation
標題Re: [問題] 未許可後推
時間Tue Mar 4 18:58:39 2014
※ 引述《jerry093000 (歐歐歐)》之銘言：
: 剛剛看到這個影片
: 遠航未申請許可直接後推 擋住已經滑行許可的華航
: 這樣子會有調查懲處之類的後續嗎?
: 純粹好奇XD
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31ydtRprtYU
來打一下好了：
FE8861: TSA GND, FE8861, Bay 11, ready pushback + startup.
TSA GND: FE8861, stand by (...inaudible)
FE8861: Say again, FE8861.
TSA GND: FE8861, standby need to watch traffic.
FE8861: Standby for FE8861.
TSA GND: FE8861, startup (approved) without the power.
FE8861: Urm... Startup approved, FE8861.
CI201: GND, CI201, taxi?
TSA GND: CI201, proceed W toward holding point RWY 10.
CI201: W toward RWY 10 holding point, CI201.
AE364: GND, AE364 (...inaudible)
TSA GND: AE364, TSA GND, proceed via E hold short CC.
AE364: E hold short CC, AE364.
TSA GND: FE8861, TSA GND.
FE8861: Go ahead, FE8861.
TSA GND: FE8861, I just give you (文法錯誤 xD) the startup idle power clearance.
FE8861: Startup clearance without power, Urm... Sorry, we, I... (Inaudible) pushback clearance.
TSA GND: FE8861, (inaudible) expedite, proceed via W to holding point RWY 10.
FE8861: Expedite taxi via W to holding point RWY 10, FE8861.
TSA GND: CI201, continue via W to holding point RWY 10.
CI201: Continue W to holding point RWY 10, there is a preceding aircraft ahead.
TSA GND: FE8861, contact TWR 118.1 .
FE8861: Contact tower 118.1, sorry sir.
原來如此阿...不知道如果在美國發生擅自後推會怎樣？
最後，想請問一下那個expedite的意思是什麼？
Thanks for answering!
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→ Sunicer:no delay 03/04 19:07
推 cgy:未依航管指示，輕則賠款，重責吊飛行員執照 03/04 19:22
推 ttnakafzcm:這可不是說聲Sorry就沒事啦.... = = 03/04 19:28
→ summerleaves:因為追究的人太多... 通常後來就算了 圈子很小 03/04 19:32
推 ttnakafzcm:TSA TWR:FE8861 Clear to Take off RWY 10 Wind 010 03/04 19:33
→ ttnakafzcm:at 5 no delay這樣的? XD 03/04 19:33
推 telescope:Use the word expedite only when prompt compliance is 03/04 19:53
→ telescope:required to avoid the development of an imminent 03/04 19:54
→ telescope:situation. 03/04 19:54
→ telescope:雖可解釋no delay但與immediately的程度上還是有差別 03/04 19:57
※ 編輯: nelsony1216 來自: 36.231.104.94 (03/04 20:19)
※ 編輯: nelsony1216 來自: 36.231.104.94 (03/04 20:20)
推 kkk0j:好奇問：牽引車駕駛聽誰的？ 03/04 20:31
→ willychn33:我以前都以為是聽地面管制的 XD 03/04 20:56
推 globalhawk:expedite ... 叫他趕快滑過去 03/04 21:02
→ globalhawk:ground應該就先將錯就錯再說了 03/04 21:02
推 imprezasti:牽引車駕駛聽耳機員>耳機員聽機長 03/04 21:07
推 no821010:新手看不懂阿.... 03/05 00:00
→ william9:既然問了就回答一下 美國有些機場 後推是自己來或是 03/05 00:05
→ william9:ramp tower控制的(ramp tower嚴格說來並不是真的ATC) 03/05 00:06
→ william9:後推開車完 再自己滑到movement area的邊界找GND要許可 03/05 00:09
→ william9:在美國ATC violation的話 會要你抄電話號碼 03/05 00:12
→ nelsony1216:之前有聽過進錯airspace class+TFR才抄號碼...ATC不確 03/05 12:05
→ nelsony1216:定 03/05 12:05
推 ksdt:都會，這類事情不在無線電探究，給你個號碼自己跟FAA說分明 03/05 23:49