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標題[外電] Utah 108, Portland 92: Another day, another rout for out
時間Mon Nov 30 00:13:36 2009
Utah 108, Portland 92: Another day, another rout for out-of-sync Blazers
By Jason Quick, The Oregonian
November 28, 2009, 10:51PM
Portland Trail Blazers guard Brandon Roy gains control of a loose ball as
Utah Jazz guard Deron Williams defends during the second quarter of their NBA
basketball game Saturday in Salt Lake City.
SALT LAKE CITY -- Not yet a quarter into the season, and the Trail Blazers
have reached an undeniable crossroads.
After the Blazers were dominated 108-92 by Utah on Saturday -- the second
consecutive night the team was blown away -- many festering irritations of
the season's direction surfaced while a new storyline to this drama emerged
after coach Nate McMillan played Andre Miller only six minutes and 18
seconds.
Pick an area, any area, and right now it is a mess.
The offense has turned into a jumbled knot of confusion. The team's top two
players -- Brandon Roy and LaMarcus Aldridge -- are uncomfortable and unsure
of how to make the emergence of center Greg Oden mesh with their
pick-and-roll magic from a year ago, often leading to hesitant shots and
stalled possessions.
The defense in the last two games has turned slow and soft, allowing
astronomical shooting percentages -- the latest a 60.6 effort by Utah, which
started when the Jazz (9-7) hit their first eight shots and nine of their
first 10.
Meanwhile, nobody outside of Oden is performing at a higher level than last
season, and key players like Aldridge, Steve Blake and Miller have been well
off their standard of play.
On Saturday, one night after the Blazers trailed by 29 at home to Memphis,
the Blazers fell behind 11-2 only 2:39 into a game they would eventually
trail by 27.
It created for interesting viewing in the fourth quarter, as the team's core
was yanked and engaged in a series of animated conversations on the bench.
Roy reached past Blake's shoulder and tapped Miller, asking him why he didn't
play after the first quarter. Miller and Joel Przybilla talked, at one time
shaking their heads. Roy passed a folded statistics sheet to Aldridge, who
studied the sheet, refolded it and then put both hands over his face after
discarding the sheet under the bench. Later, Roy and Aldridge talked, with
Roy revealing that their conversation revolved around how different things
had become this season.
Afterward, in the locker room, there was an array of outlooks, with some like
Roy waving red flags about the team's play while others like Oden and
Aldridge only willing to say that the season still offers time for kinks to
be worked out.
And, of course, there was Miller's benching, which caught everyone by
surprise, none more so than Miller. It appears Miller has the team's full
support, as he engaged in lengthy conversations with Przybilla and Blake on
the bench, and then drew the concern of Roy. Then, after Miller gave a
noncontroversial interview, during which he answered every question
professionally, Oden tapped him on the knee and offered a fist, which Miller
bumped.
What were once smoldering hot spots on this team have suddenly taken spark,
presenting McMillan with his biggest challenge in this new era of successful
Blazers basketball. And for the first time, it doesn't appear McMillan has
the unquestioned support from key players.
The Blazers players are most concerned about the offense, which has undergone
a decided change from last season, when Roy and Aldridge dominated the ball
and shots with pick-and-roll variations. This season, with Oden becoming a
formidable and effective option, the offense more often revolves around entry
passes to Oden.
McMillan says it is up to the players to figure out how to make that dynamic
work. The players say the system now isn't working because both Roy and
Aldridge are struggling.
That was the central topic on the bench near the end of the game, when Roy
spoke to Aldridge with his shirt over his lips.
"Me and L.A. talked about how things were different," Roy said. "And more
than anything why the change from last year, when we were a good team. I
think we have somewhat changed our focus. Instead of keeping that focus and
just improving around it, we have adjusted."
Roy was reminded that Oden has been effective, entering the game second in
the NBA at 63.2 percent, and when asked how all three offensive options can
work together, he chuckled.
"I don't know. That's why coaches coach," Roy said. "I just go out there, you
know? He's the coach."
Roy said he has seen this coming for weeks.
"I'm not sitting here totally surprised by it," Roy said. "There were times
when we won games and we still don't seem to have it. It's kind of right in
our face now. ... I just don't think people fully understand. They were like,
'We won 6 of 7,' but I'm like, 'Nah, I'm still a little concerned how things
are going right now.' Because I don't think anyone is really seeing the light
at the end of the tunnel right. Meaning nobody knows how to fix it."
Whether these sparks take flame could be determined in the coming weeks, when
the team's schedule slows down, allowing for more rest and practice time.
Both McMillan and the players said the team is worn down, having played the
most games (19) in the NBA. The Blazers don't play again until Tuesday at
home against Miami, then have three more days off until a Saturday home game
against Houston.
"Last night wasn't a good night and tonight wasn't a good night," McMillan
said, his voice as hoarse as it has ever been after a game. "What we have to
do is ... it's two games. We are 12-7; we don't want to go crazy here. We've
dropped two games and they were two bad games. We know we got some work to do
to get better ... and we have time to do that."
That was a similar refrain heard from Aldridge and Oden. Both agreed that
things are not in sync and that the team has changed dramatically from last
season. But they both stressed that this has been a tiring stretch and that
upcoming practices can be a good time to fix problems.
"Things are different, but that's not to say it can't work," Aldridge said.
"When you add better players to a team, you have to figure out how to
incorporate everybody."
Added Oden: "We have a lot of weapons. We are just trying to figure out how
to use them all."
One of those weapons, Miller, was hardly used at all Saturday. He entered the
game with 6:18 left in the first quarter and the Blazers trailing 19-7. He
played the rest of the quarter, missing all four of his shots, including two
puzzling three-pointers, while getting two assists, committing two turnovers
and taking one foul. When the quarter ended with the Blazers trailing 32-17,
Miller was taken out and never returned.
"He doesn't seem to be moving well, and I decided to go with (Jerryd)
Bayless," McMillan said.
When asked if he thought Miller was injured, McMillan gave the same response.
Miller, however, said he was not injured and felt he was moving fine. Miller
on Friday night did fall hard on his right hip, but he kept playing. His
appearance on Saturday was his 549th consecutive game played, the longest
active streak in the NBA.
"Yeah, I'm surprised," Miller said. "But, oh well, you move on to the next
game. The game is over. That's behind me now. I can't control that. Ain't no
use in getting worked up over it."
Miller said he has never been used so little in any game he has played, but
said he doesn't plan to address McMillan with his concerns.
"Nah. I won't say nothin'," Miller said. "I keep my mouth closed and keep a
movin'."
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重點節錄:
"I don't know. That's why coaches coach," Roy said. "I just go out there, you
know? He's the coach."
"I'm still a little concerned how things are going right now.
Because I don't think anyone is really seeing the light at the end of
the tunnel right. Meaning nobody knows how to fix it."
Aldridge said.
"When you add better players to a team, you have to figure out how to
incorporate everybody."
Added Oden: "We have a lot of weapons. We are just trying to figure out how
to use them all."
面對兩場膛炸
Roy注意到三弟超強,但對於如何好好用他,他表示:
"蛙啊災??這是為什麼教練要教的啊,我只是去做,他才是教練"
一哥說前途無亮
二哥說有更好的球員加入,就要知道如何結合每一個人
三弟說我們有很多武器,我們只需要去試試怎麼用上所有的武器
越來越刺激了,噗噗
Rank"A",你再不拿出點料來,球員就快揭竿起義了
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※ 編輯: and1018 來自: 114.137.168.247 (11/30 00:21)
推 qoomilk:頭推,解顧~救拓荒!!! 11/30 00:21
推 cvincent:三個型還蠻像桃園三結義的 11/30 00:25
推 voon:有沒有三弟看起來比一哥老的八卦... 11/30 00:27
→ voon:如果這樣說的話...NATE是諸葛亮嗎?七奇有這麼遜嗎... 11/30 00:29
→ voon:BLAKE有廖化的感覺...可是我們現在還不到後期阿...五虎將都在 11/30 00:29
推 cvincent:諸葛亮是KP吧 11/30 00:38
推 hunight:諸葛亮是KP大神 那看看會不會有淚斬馬謖的橋段XD 11/30 00:54
推 jeffl0402:Miller似乎很無奈.. 11/30 01:08
推 dakkk:到底Miller的角色在哪 還是霧殺殺 11/30 01:10
推 forever23:RANK對blake的愛 無庸置疑 幫他鞏固好先發位置 11/30 01:41
→ forever23:讓他明年可以繼續續約 可以換一下教練嗎? 11/30 01:42
推 Carrarese:簽了Miller又不用 不知道在想什麼 11/30 01:43
推 IceMakers:Miller是龐統吧 @_@ 11/30 03:15
推 roy7175:據線報~廖化手中握有主帥把柄,目前尚待查證.. 11/30 06:43
推 terrorist38:教練的意思不是很清楚了 11/30 09:01
→ terrorist38:Miller的走位不如Blake,他的進攻對球隊來說很雞肋 11/30 09:02
→ terrorist38:因為不需要他的得分能力,球隊的戰術圍繞在他們三個 11/30 09:03
推 terrorist38:沒有要戰的意思,不喜歡聽的就當我放屁,我不回應 11/30 09:06
→ terrorist38:Miller的價值在他的經驗,當Roy需要休息的時候 11/30 09:08
→ terrorist38:還有人能帶著球隊,其他什麼個人能力,說真的... 11/30 09:08
→ terrorist38:拓隊不需要他,Blake跑位很勤也很清楚,有助戰術運作 11/30 09:11
→ terrorist38:會提到Blake不是替他護航,只是他上場時間多 11/30 09:11
→ terrorist38:球迷聲音也多,自然就多看到他的打法,並沒這麼糟 11/30 09:13
→ terrorist38:至於這個球員個人攻守能力怎麼樣,每個人都清楚 11/30 09:15
→ and1018:我不覺得過半場--->球給Roy--->fade out看戲--->等Roy傳 11/30 09:16
→ terrorist38:但是下次看比賽可以多比較Blake跟Miller的打法 11/30 09:16
→ and1018:算是跑位很勤 很清楚是沒錯啦 11/30 09:16
→ and1018:有助於戰術運作 也只是因為Nate還不就那幾招 11/30 09:18
→ terrorist38:是否進攻的主軸跟戰術執行明朗很多 11/30 09:18
→ and1018:球員都開始覺得Nate整合不太起來現有的陣容了 11/30 09:19
→ and1018:Miller就算了 他們連Oden都覺得教練小用他了 11/30 09:20
推 terrorist38:那是因為好食材太多,一時不知道怎麼炒 11/30 09:20
→ terrorist38:如果要火教練也不是不行,不過下個教練是不是就有辦法 11/30 09:21
→ and1018:或許KP該幫他寫個推薦函 去幫助籃網奮起 11/30 09:21
→ terrorist38:融合出一套最成功的攻守,這則有待時間證明 11/30 09:22
→ terrorist38:既然球員都說話了,就看教練能不能有積極正面的回應 11/30 09:23
→ terrorist38:真要不行的話,他自己只會瞭解他不夠能力帶這球隊 11/30 09:23
→ terrorist38: 也 11/30 09:23
→ terrorist38:Oden一直以來都有容易犯規的問題 11/30 09:25
推 UIOOP:有助於對手有助戰術運作 11/30 09:25
→ terrorist38:我是覺得教練用循序漸進的方法讓他學習怎麼控制犯規 11/30 09:25
→ terrorist38:以及思考如何在犯規麻煩的壓力下打球,這看大家怎麼想 11/30 09:26
→ and1018:有犯規問題跟小用 應該沒關係 11/30 09:27
→ terrorist38:沒有絕對的做法跟想法,說不定球迷想的才是對的也不一 11/30 09:27
→ terrorist38:定,我覺得我該停止說話了,不好意思,又造成大家困擾 11/30 09:28
推 spring610:大家講話都客氣點咩 沒事的~ 11/30 09:43
→ and1018:我很一般的討論啊QQ 11/30 09:47
推 Yocoldagain:peace 11/30 09:59
推 hitomi7636:我只覺得Rank-A沒料了.. 11/30 10:33
→ hitomi7636:他比較適合拿籃板苦工型,然後後衛都是射手.. 11/30 10:34
→ hitomi7636:在Sonics打好一季就被Blazers挖角了XD 11/30 10:35
→ hitomi7636:在超音速的時候有Forston,Evans以及爆發了一個系列賽 11/30 10:38
→ hitomi7636:J.James、N.Collison射手有L.Ridnour、Ray、Lewis等.. 11/30 10:40
→ hitomi7636: ^還有 11/30 10:41
推 monkeyleo:私心希望Avery Johnson... 起碼先從防守做起 11/30 12:08
→ monkeyleo:這季看下來 防守實在是... 11/30 12:08
推 JerrydBatum:我覺得並不是阿拓並不會不需要Miller 這季有很多後場 11/30 12:35
→ JerrydBatum:長傳的快攻 那種球Blake大概一輩子傳不了多少次... 11/30 12:36
推 dakkk:Blake 問題在他武器不多 他不會切入分球之類的動作 11/30 12:37
→ JerrydBatum:當然你是以教練的角度去談也是無可厚非 11/30 12:37
→ dakkk:球過半場 決定球給Roy 或AGG單打 這種戰術 對方太好守了 11/30 12:38
→ JerrydBatum:..所以我也只是一直想換教練 對Blake就是不期不待而已 11/30 12:39
→ dakkk:A米有他的問題 A米不夠準 的確是個問題 11/30 12:39
→ JerrydBatum:而且這季到現在ROY的狀況好像一直不太好 也有點令人 11/30 12:39
→ JerrydBatum:擔心 11/30 12:40
→ dakkk:對方如果寧可包夾內線也不去守A米 A米本身空檔又進不了 11/30 12:40
→ dakkk:的確是會有問題 11/30 12:40
→ dakkk:Bayless 又不敢放手去練 也會是問題 11/30 12:42
推 JerrydBatum:我打太快 XD 請把我第一句的"並不是"忽略 11/30 12:42
推 hitomi7636:Miller的三分爛很久了... 中距離倒是還可以 11/30 12:43
→ dakkk:這還是進攻面的問題 防守問題更大條 一整個team都有問題 11/30 12:44
→ hitomi7636:總覺得換個教練來教快攻倒是還不錯.. 11/30 12:44
→ hitomi7636:連進攻都有問題了阿- -.. 11/30 12:45
推 dakkk:A米中距離還好 但他好像是慢熱型的 久一點才會有準 11/30 12:50
推 Smush:S.Rodriguez 24:00 9-14 2-4 4-4 +20 24分 11/30 12:52
推 terrorist38:簡單說 有Roy的球隊 控衛這位置不是這麼重要 11/30 12:56
→ terrorist38:因為他打球既穩重又聰明,以他的年紀,這很難得 11/30 12:57
→ Mman:Blake進攻單調 防守不佳 經驗也輸符合教練需求 但不能服眾 11/30 12:58
→ terrorist38:Roy可以說是整個聯盟最能帶領一隻球隊的球星 11/30 12:59
→ terrorist38:(個人觀感,個人立場)勿戰 11/30 13:00
→ terrorist38:會說Blake比Miller更適合配Roy,主因就是Blake瞭解 11/30 13:01
→ terrorist38:他自己的角色定位,而且夠積極也夠聰明,(不討論效率 11/30 13:02
→ terrorist38:那Miller為什麼比較不適合配Roy,因為他會見機行事 11/30 13:05
推 knight0123:那換來一個防守好,外線準,推進快的PG好了 11/30 13:06
→ terrorist38:而他做的事情,該是由Roy來做,無關能力,只因為隊形 11/30 13:07
→ terrorist38:也可以,小前跟控衛放兩把鎖+一點外線,這樣也好打 11/30 13:08
→ terrorist38:但是一隻球隊不是只有5個人,所以陣容的搭配很重要 11/30 13:09
推 terrorist38:不管怎麼配,球隊的重點在那三個人身上,尤其是Oden 11/30 13:12
→ terrorist38:他有成為聯盟第一中鋒的條件,還有一個稱職的替補 11/30 13:12
推 terrorist38:拓荒者有讓人流口水的一群年輕人,好好搞未來會很驚人 11/30 13:16
推 Royster:Blake這季的表現,完全可以抵消你所謂的適合,因為他現在 11/30 13:24
推 Royster:在場上,拓荒者彷彿是4打5,嚴重的時候甚至是4打6 11/30 13:24
推 Royster:這個時候講難聽點,Miller管它配不配,就算不配也比blake 11/30 13:25
推 Royster:更能給拓荒者貢獻.... 11/30 13:25
推 terrorist38:看來只有火了Nate冷凍或交易Blake才能平息眾怒 11/30 13:33
推 terrorist38:就像Roy說的,球隊需要一個明確的方向 11/30 13:36
→ terrorist38:不適合就趁早砍了吧,趁早重練,這陣容隨便打隨便強 11/30 13:37
→ terrorist38:反正也不關我的事,只是對於拓隊的成長很期待 11/30 13:38
→ terrorist38:所以才會發表一些自己的想法,謝謝各位的包容 11/30 13:39
推 Yocoldagain:恩 適合戰術體系是一回事 表現是一回事 適合教練戰術 11/30 13:46
→ Yocoldagain:體系 卻不能為球隊帶來實質貢獻?禾斗~禾斗 11/30 13:47
推 terrorist38:其實我比較期待接下來的拓荒者會做什麼樣的改變 11/30 13:58
→ terrorist38:究竟將帥不合的問題能不能克服 11/30 13:59
→ terrorist38:新的走向會將拓荒者導向何方 11/30 14:00
推 gakuto:絕對支持Nate 和Blake 11/30 16:38
→ gakuto: 兩個人一起火掉! 11/30 16:38