[討論] 關於交易首輪選秀權

[CHUNGHUA (CHUNGHUA)]

下午在上一篇的推文裡，和qoomilk大討論到關於交易首輪選秀權的問題，我上
了cbafaq的網站裡找了一下資料，有了初步的了解，想說在這裡分享一下

首先要先提到當初跟山貓交易來G蛙時，我們送給山貓我們自己的選秀權

#1DPn8LeT

最下面的補充有提到關於選秀權

Portland Pick
top-12 projected in 2013, 2014 and 2015 and unprotected in 2016

12 13 14 15年都是前12順位保護，16年則是不受保護的選秀權，也就是說
12~15年裡只要該年度我們都是前12順位的樂透籤，我們都是自己留著
(可以不要這麼慘阿XD)，如果到了2015年都是我們留下來，那麼2016年就是不
管順位都歸山貓所有

那麼 我們可不可以交易14~16(12 13我們都留下來了XD)年裡面任一年的首輪選
秀權???

我查了一下

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q85

CBAFAQ的Q85題有了詳細的解答，我用我的破英文直接翻重點，翻的不順在請
其他厲害的大大們糾正一下= ="

85. How are draft picks handled in trades? What is the Stepien rule?

85。如何交易的選秀權？ 是什麼Stepien rule？

Draft picks (both first and second round) count $0 for salary matching
purposes. This is true both before and after the draft, until the player
signs a contract. This can make it very difficult to construct a trade
that is equitable in both trade value and basketball value. For example,
Vancouver selected Steve Francis with the #2 pick in the 1999 draft, and
subsequently traded his draft rights to Houston. When the trade was
finally engineered, it included three teams (Orlando was also involved),
11 players (including Francis) and two future draft picks.


選秀權（第一輪和第二輪）在新資空間裡的價值為0。這是真實的，不管在之前後之
後的選秀，直到球員簽訂合約。這使它很難構建一個在公平的貿易價值和籃球價值
例如，溫哥華灰熊在1999年的選秀大會第2順位上挑選擇了Steve Francis，隨後將他
交易到火箭。當貿易終於設計，它包括三支球隊（魔術也參與），11名球員（包括
Francis）和兩個未來的選秀權。

Once the draft pick signs a contract, his actual salary becomes his trade
value.

一旦選秀權簽訂合同，他的實際工資會成為他的交易價值。

Note that even though a draft pick's trade value (for salary matching
purposes) is $0, a first round pick is included in team salary at 100% of his
scale amount once he is selected in the draft, unless he signs with a non-NBA
team (see question number 48) or agrees in writing not to sign an NBA
contract that season (see question number 14). If an unsigned first round
draft pick is traded, then 100% of his scale amount is included in the
acquiring team's team salary as soon as the trade is completed. An unsigned
second round pick does not count toward team salary.

The "Seven Year Rule" allows teams to trade draft picks up to seven years
into the future (for example, if this is the 2011-12 season, then a 2018 pick
can be traded, but a 2019 pick cannot). It is common to "protect" picks
depending on their position (for example, "we keep it if it ends up in
the lottery, otherwise you get it"). This helps to avoid a repeat of
some unfortunate past trades, such as the trade between the Cavs and
Lakers where LA received what turned out to be the first overall pick
in the 1982 draft,which they used to select James Worthy. It is common
for these protections to relax over several years. For example, a team
might convey its own pick in the first draft in which it is not a
"Protected Pick," where a Protected Pick is defined as picks 1-14 in
2012; 1-10 in 2013; 1-6 in 2014; and unprotected in 2015. If the team
owns one of the protected picks in 2012, 2013 or 2014, then they keep
it; otherwise it is conveyed to the other team. If they make it to 2015
 without having conveyed a pick, then the other team gets their 2015
pick unconditionally.

"7年規則"(舊版是5年)允許球隊交易未來7年內的選秀權(例如，如果現在是2011
-12賽季，那麼2018年的選秀權可以交易，但不能交易2019年的選秀權

Teams are restricted from trading away future first round draft picks in
consecutive years. This is known as the "Ted Stepien Rule." Stepien owned the
Cavs from 1980-83, and made a series of bad trades (such as the 1982 trade
mentioned above) that cost the Cavs several years' first round picks. As a
result of Stepien's ineptitude, teams are now prevented from making trades
which might leave them without a first round pick in consecutive future years.

球隊會被限制連續2年交易未來的首輪選秀權，這是所謂的"Ted Stepien Rule."
1980-83 Stepien擁有的騎士，做了一系列很差的交易，讓Stepien連續好幾年沒有
首輪選秀權

The Stepien rule applies only to future first round picks. For example, if this
is the 2011-12 season, then a team can trade its 2012 first round pick without
regard to whether they had traded their 2011 pick, since their 2011 pick is no
longer a future pick. But they can't trade away both their 2012 and 2013 picks,
since both are future picks. Teams sometimes work around this rule by trading
first round picks in alternate years.

The Stepien rule只適用於未來的第一輪選秀權。例如，如果這是在2011
-12賽季，那麼球隊可以交易其2012年的首輪選秀權，而不需考慮他們是
否已經換了他們2011年的選秀權，因為他們2011年的選秀已經不再是一個
未來的選秀權。但他們不能連續交易他們2012年和2013年的選秀權。球隊
會圍繞這個規則來交易隔年的首輪選秀權。(例如籃網交易給老賽的14、
16、18，3年的選秀

重點在下面這段

When dealing with protected picks, the Stepien rule is interpreted to mean
that teams can't trade a pick if there is any chance it will leave the team
without a first round pick in consecutive future drafts. Suppose a team makes
a trade in 2011-12 that conveys a first round pick sometime from 2012 to
2017. The pick is protected only if it is the first overall pick from 2012 to
2017, and if it is not conveyed by 2017, the other team gets cash instead. In
other words, in order to avoid sending a pick from 2012 to 2016, the team
would have to win the first overall pick in the draft lottery five seasons in
a row. Even though the likelihood of this happening is essentially nil, the
team is not allowed to trade its 2018 pick.

當交易中受保護的選秀權，Stepien rule被解釋為球隊不能交易選秀權，如果有任何的機會
，會讓球隊未來幾年都沒有首輪選秀權(if there is any chance it will leave the team
without a first round pick in consecutive future drafts.這邊我好像翻的不順= =)。
假設一個球隊，在2011-12年做了一個交易，送出一個在2012年至2017年當中被保護的首輪
選秀權，而這被保護的選秀權是2012年至2017年的狀元籤，如果到2017年都沒有送出選秀權
球隊只得到現金，而不是選秀權。換句話說，為了避免送出2012至16年的選秀權，球隊必須
要贏連續5季的狀元籤。即使這種情況發生的可能性基本上是零，球隊是不允許交易2018年
的首輪選秀權。


下面就先不翻了，好累...XD

If a team trades two future first round picks and the first pick is
protected, then the first pick would be conveyed in the first draft in which
it is not a protected pick (as described above), and the second pick would be
conveyed in the first allowable draft (per the Stepien rule) in which that
pick is not protected (i.e., two years after the first pick). But since both
picks must be conveyed within seven years, the protection on the first pick
cannot last longer than four years (i.e., the first pick must be conveyed by
the fifth year). A team can have no more than one trade with such a waiting
period in effect at any time.

Other rules that pertain to trading draft picks:

Teams cannot trade future picks not already in their possession. For example,
a team cannot make a trade in 2013 that conveys the lesser of any 2016 first
round pick in its possession on the date of the 2016 draft, and subsequently
acquire a pick to send.
Any or all teams in a trade may be granted the one-time option to defer the
conveyance or receipt of a pick for one year (only). For example, a trade
between Miami and Orlando that includes Miami's 2012 first round draft pick
might provide Miami with the option to defer the pick to 2013. In addition:
A team can exercise a pick deferment only once.
The conveyance of a pick can be deferred for only one year.
A protected pick (as described above) cannot be deferred.
The deferment is subject to the Seven Year Rule. A pick in the seventh year
following a trade cannot be deferred.
Except for pick protection and the one-time option to defer the conveyance of
a pick as described above, trades must specify the precise year in which a
pick is to be conveyed.
A traded draft pick cannot have protection based on draft position and a
one-time option to defer.
Teams are required to have only a first round pick, and not necessarily their
own first round pick. Teams may trade away their own future picks in
consecutive years if they have another team's first round pick in one of
those years.
A team cannot sign and immediately trade a draft pick in a sign-and-trade
arrangement (see question number 89).
Teams cannot trade picks in that day's draft on the day of the draft before
the pick is made.
Lottery picks cannot be traded from 6:00 PM on the day before the draft
lottery until the lottery is complete.


所以回歸到這個議題，在這CBA的規定之下，我們欠山貓的首輪選秀權是14~15的前
12順位保護，16年是無保護的選秀權，在我們還沒還山貓選秀權時，我們就不能交
易14~16年的首輪選秀權，然後在Stepien rule的規定內，我們也不
能交易2017年的首輪選秀權，要交易首輪選秀權，得交易2018年後，除非我們在明
後年就還了山貓選秀權，假如明年14年歸還，15年的首輪選秀權能交易了，但還是
必須符合"Stepien rule"的規則，不能連續2年都交易掉首輪選秀權

所以這就是為何我看了Jason Quick的推特，以及Blazer's edge的Dave都有提到
我們很難交易首輪選秀權的原因，因為現階段只能交易2018年的選秀權，而這年分
太遠了，也不好賣

以上的翻譯如果有誤，在請大大們幫忙修正一下，我只能用Google翻譯加自己的解
讀做修飾而已...囧

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