作者ACEP (蝴蝶結)
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標題[轉錄][情報] Vote: Worst MLB General Manager
時間Tue Feb 3 23:16:08 2009
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作者: abc12812 () 看板: MLB
標題: [情報] Vote: Worst MLB General Manager
時間: Tue Feb 3 19:57:11 2009
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This week’s Dugout Central vote had us looking at our staff’s picks for the
worst team builders in the Big Leagues right now. Coming in on top is Giants’
front office lead Brian Sabean with Nationals GM Jim Bowden hot on his
heels. Three time World Series winning GM Brian Cashman and ‘Moneyball’
centerpiece Billy Beane also made our top five.
Each writer voted for 5 General Managers on a 5-4-3-2-1 basis. Voting records
for each writer are listed below the summary of voting.
The Worst GM
1. Brian Sabean, San Francisco Giants
2. Jim Bowden, Washington Nationals
3. Brian Cashman, New York Yankees
4. Billy Beane, Oakland Athletics
5. J.P. Ricciardi, Toronto Blue Jays
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th Points
Brian Sabean 1 2 2 -- -- 19
Jim Bowden 2 -- 1 1 -- 15
Brian Cashman 1 1 -- -- -- 9
Billy Beane 1 -- -- 1 -- 7
J.P. Ricciardi -- 1 1 -- -- 7
Ed Wade -- 1 -- 1 -- 6
Jim Hendry -- -- 1 -- 1 4
Ned Colletti -- -- -- 1 1 3
Neal Huntington -- -- -- -- 2 2
Omar Minaya -- -- -- 1 -- 2
Dayton Moore -- -- -- -- 1 1
Peter Fritsch:
1. Brian Sabean - Giants. It is amazing he still has a job. How many
crippled, 36-year-old veterans does a GM have to sign before discovering the
folly of this activity?
2. Brian Cashman - Yankees. With a $200 million dollar payroll there is no
excuse for not making the playoffs.
3. J.P. Ricciardi - Blue Jays. Although the AL East is tough the Blue Jays
have never even sniffed the playoffs during his tenure.
4. Omar Minaya - Mets. See Brian Cashman.
5. Neal Huntington - Pirates. Three words: Jason Bay trade.
Michael Walsh:
1. Billy Beane - Athletics. For a supposed genius this guy has achieved
almost absolutely nothing. You could argue he has actually been more of a
detriment than a success.
2. J.P. Ricciardi - Blue Jays. Similar to Beane, but without even a hint
of the playoffs.
3. Brian Sabean - Giants. Aaron Rowand….seriously? This is just one of
many that aren’t even questionable moves, they are moronic. It’s as if
he wants the Giants to fail.
4. Jim Bowden - Nationals. Has the track record of a homeless man who can
be seen constantly hanging around the dog track.
5. Jim Hendry - Cubs. I am a Cubs fan and although I have a great feeling
about what the Cubs are attempting to build I also have serious concerns
about some of these moves. All that money into pitchers who could explode
violently (Zambrano) or revert back to mediocre ways (Dempster, Lilly)
and then you let Kerry Wood walk with Kevin Gregg as his replacement?
I’m just as worried as I am hopeful.
Tyler Hissey:
1. Jim Bowden - Nationals. See my article.(
http://tinyurl.com/ae8je3 )
2. Ed Wade – Astros. Wade is a close second. The Astros farm system is a
mess largely due to Wade’s decision to trade away young, cheap players
for over-the-hill veterans.
3. Brian Sabean – Giants. Two words: Barry Zito. Two more words: Aaron
Rowand. When a team is not ready to compete it is more than foolish for
a GM to use scarce resources on short-term players commanding big
dollars.
4. Ned Colletti - Dodgers. The Manny trade and Dodger playoff appearance
from a weak, weak division covers up his many blunders. He spent more on
his outfield than the Rays spent on their entire playoff roster. Juan
Pierre anyone? He is a serious over-spender whose poor decisions would be
more magnified if they were not in the west.
5. Dayton Moore – Royals. Moore spent over $12 million on the likes of
Willie Bloomquist and Kyle Farnsworth this past off-season. Loved the
Zack Greinke signing, but the Royals need to seriously change the
organizational mindset to make a real turn around.
Thomas Wayne:
1. Jim Bowden - Nationals. See Tyler’s top notch article. It says it all.
2. Brian Sabean - Giants. Spending money for the sake of spending money it
would appear.
3. Jim Hendry – Cubs. A competent GM would have tossed some nice loot at
Bobby Abreu (instead of Bradley) and kept Kerry Wood. Those are winning
moves. Dempster? Fukudome? Gregg? Those are moves that have you looking
at year 101 and counting.
4. Billy Beane – Athletics. In his first 11 seasons his record is 976-804
with five playoff appearances, getting out of the first round only once.
Former Cardinal GM Walt Jocketty over that same time period was 980-800
with six playoff appearances, playing in the NLCS four times, making it
to the WS twice and winning it all once. St. Louis is a small market club
just like the A’s. No one ever calls Jocketty a genius. Maybe that’s
because Jocketty never had a book hyping his success before he ever
really had any.
5. Ned Colletti – Dodgers. Signing Andruw Jones to take a chance he
returns to glory is not bad, at somewhere around $4 or $5 million per.
But nearly $20M per? What a joke.
Scott Jensen:
1. Brian Cashman - Yankees. Competes with twice the budget of the average
team and hasn’t advanced deep into the playoffs in how long?
2. Brian Sabean – Giants. Seems to be getting worse. Apparent fear of
offense. Barry Zito?
3. Jim Bowden – Nationals. If he spent more he’d be the worst.
Consistently makes bad moves and can’t learn from them – or doesn’t
care.
4. Ed Wade- Astros. Future? What Future? Let’s pillage the farm season so
we can be a little above average.
5. Neal Huntington- Pirates. Traded his two biggest assets for junk. Has
anyone yet said “good move, Neal”?
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推 jayin07:Billy Beane?wtf 02/03 20:00
推 YGJHSU:只有5個人投票...還蠻沒說服力的 02/03 20:01
推 tomjack0405:豆爺排名會這麼差喔...比很多GM好多了 02/03 20:03
推 alex710707:現金人 跟豆爺上榜真的另人意外.. 02/03 20:05
推 deJMH:只有五個人投票... 02/03 20:08
推 PennyHughes:這五個人是都被豆爺搶過是不是... 02/03 20:08
※ 編輯: abc12812 來自: 140.112.5.3 (02/03 20:09)
推 devilsky:不斷的把球星洗出去的關係吧 02/03 20:12
→ OoyaoO:沒辦法 小市場球隊 養大了吃不下就得賣 02/03 20:15
→ OoyaoO:給豆爺很多預算去經營大概會像現在的紅襪這樣吧 02/03 20:15
推 devilsky:至於CASHMAN的話..我覺得老史捅的洞是重點... 02/03 20:16
→ abc2090614:Bavasi:還好我跑路了 科科 02/03 20:19
→ abc12812:其實Beane在Depo和Fuson走人之後真的有比較差的感覺 02/03 20:20
推 Roshiel:因為投票人是科科提、傻賓與豬頭B嗎? 02/03 20:41
推 seekforever:Beane光Swisher那筆就搶爆了吧 02/03 21:06
推 uranusjr:Vote: Worst Vote for Worst MLB General Manager 02/03 21:10
→ birdy590:那兩位把 Cashman 放在第一名的實在沒什麼道理 02/03 21:11
→ birdy590:Vote: Worst Vote for Worst MLB General Manager 02/03 21:11
推 KOSHON:樓上降有點情緒化喔 不過是個小樣本投票 EASY.. 02/03 21:13
推 jake:Ed得分太低了 02/03 21:36
推 A1pha:看看他們對豆爺的評論,簡直在搞笑== 02/03 22:20
推 A1pha:外國鄉民已經在下面戰了XD 02/03 22:28
→ ACEP:借轉... 02/03 23:15
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我來唸歌 請您仔細聽,那個永公街上 說有一個奇怪的人。他每天行來行去 面黑黑又打赤
腳,不過他都行去滿滿的垃圾桶,找垃圾桶裡面別人拋棄的東西
他只在附近遊蕩,全村的人都知道他,我喜歡這樣稱呼他,說他是永公街的街長
他不癡 也不是傻瓜,他不狂 也不常說話,他的世界裡用著弔詭文法,他是永公街的街長
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推 craigcsie:有J.P. 不意外 @@ 02/03 23:45
推 gbpacker:我還覺得名次太低了 02/04 00:49
推 JesseLitsch:驚! J.P.居然沒有奪冠.... 02/04 10:16
推 mrroot:冠軍可不是那麼好拿的 大魔王小魔王層次不同啊~ 02/04 11:38
推 denji:這篇排名不知是以什麼作依據....竟然會看到豆爺 02/05 22:35
→ denji:現金人也沒有那麼差啊..... 02/05 22:36