[心得] 厚臉皮專訪:

作者wtt168 (得I20=burn $$$$$$$$$$$$)

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時間Sun Apr 25 11:53:09 2010

原文網址: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100424&content_id =9539754&notebook_id=9539884&vkey=notebook_atl&fext=.jsp&c_id=atl Pendleton seeks solution to hitting woes By Mark Bowman / MLB.com ....... the club's early offensive woes have left hitting coach Terry Pendleton feeling a regular sense of frustration. "Obviously, when you're team isn't hitting and you're the hitting coach you should wonder what in the heck is going on," Pendleton said before Saturday afternoon's game against the Mets. "Maybe there's something I'm not getting across or something I'm not doing. So I have to reassess myself, and I have to do it every year to see if there is something more I can be doing." 按...... 每季都在reassess..... 葬送一堆潛力股..... 趕快找別的工作 = something more you can be doing The Braves entered Saturday ranked 14th in the 16-team National League in batting average (.228), slugging percentage (.353) and homers (12). They have hit just .214 over the past 11 games, and since erupting for 16 runs on Opening Day, they have scored three runs or fewer in eight of the past 15 games ...... Braves envisioned Nate McLouth serving as their leadoff hitter, Troy Glaus providing power in the middle of the lineup and Yunel Escobar continuing his role as a consistent run producer. But through the first 16 games of the year, McLouth (.150), Glaus (.167) and Escobar (.203) were three of those five key members who were bordering around or below the Mendoza Line. The others with sub-.200 batting averages were Matt Diaz (.162) and Melky Cabrera (.135), a pair of outfielders who entered the season with hopes of forming an effective platoon in left field. "Maybe I have to reassess what I'm doing with each individual or not doing with each individual," Pendleton said. "There are some guys I can look at and say, "Hey [Eric] Hinske, let's go in the cage for a couple rounds of soft toss,' and he's ready to do what he's capable of doing. Other guys have done that and not yet achieved the success that we'd all like to see them have." 基本上他對於前述五位關鍵低迷打者的處理方式=a couple rounds of soft toss Infante finds himself in leadoff hole ............ Through the season's first 16 games, the Braves leadoff hitters were hitting .087 (6-for-69) with a .169 on-base percentage. Cox's pinch-hitters had actually compiled one more hit (7) than his leadoff hitters this season. 慘....... 代打部隊的安打比開路先鋒的多...... 要不然投手打第一棒算了~~~~~~ 鄉民反應: (摘錄) kcrig wrote: Yes, TP is the problem. True, he cannot go to the plate and help the hitters but he sure as h### can mess with their approach and mechanics to hitting and he's got a proven track record of doing just that - poorly. beatphilly wrote: Don Baylor made Chipper Jones the hitter he was before he started getting hurt every other day. Pendleton tries everything with Francoeur, including NEW CONTACT LENSES! Nothing works, then he goes to New York and starts hitting! diaz1 wrote: How in the world have they not figured this out yet? Pendleton is the problem!! ........................ Don Baylor was the best hitting coach the Braves have ever had. I say fire the bum and get someone else before another season is ruined!!!! Julio_Franco wrote: thing i dont find surprising that the braves most productive hitters mcann, chipper don't go to TP when they are skidding, they call there fathers. ======================================= Chipper thinks he'll miss a few games ............... Celebrating his 38th birthday at Citi Field on Saturday afternoon, Jones struck out in his first two at-bats against the Mets and then exited in the bottom of the third inning with a sore right hip.......... 痛痛老大生日不太快樂..... -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 61.216.23.163

推 bounds:喵的，想不透他還有臉繼續坐在那位子上喔 04/25 11:58

推 Heyward:TP=bum+problem call their fathers XD 04/25 12:00

推 JasonHeyward:樓上XD 04/25 12:02

推 RubenGotay:今天K.J 又打出HR ..第六轟了啊哈哈哈哈 04/25 12:57

推 Francoeur:KJ跟在下本來就不應該丟的科科 04/25 13:28

推 a127n:但老兄，你在隊上的時候真的是打得很鳥呀囧 04/25 13:35

推 saxontai:粉酷的問題是 uncoachable -﹏- 04/25 14:28

推 MizunoTako:請問一下這篇的感想算不算有點斷章取義？XD 04/25 14:29

→ MizunoTako:本季開季到現在打的是不理想，但是以前勒？ 04/25 14:29

→ MizunoTako:老是有打者廢了就怪打教...他們進步了就不管？ 04/25 14:30

→ MizunoTako:粉酷去年季前也找過Jaramillo了...有用嗎？XD 04/25 14:30

→ MizunoTako:引用美國鄉民的話代表什麼意思嗎XD 04/25 14:32

→ MizunoTako:KJ是真的不該丟的...讓他LF也好啊Q.Q 04/25 14:32

→ saxontai:進步的例子？不怪打教難道怪投教嗎？ 04/25 15:07

推 MizunoTako:進步喔...Giles、Estrada、安豬、Javy Lopez都是啊 04/25 15:14

→ MizunoTako:如果說打者只要成績不好無論如何都是怪打教... 04/25 15:15

→ MizunoTako:那球隊payroll不夠怪球迷不多花錢讓球團賺也很合理吧XD 04/25 15:16

→ saxontai:如果我是想看到勇士擁有鑽石打線，那我當然怪payroll。 04/25 16:07

→ saxontai:目前的問題是陣中的打者有幾個的狀況不在軌道上，這個跟 04/25 16:07

→ saxontai:payroll就沒什麼關係了。誰的工作是負責協助打者調整， 04/25 16:08

→ saxontai:當然就找誰。 04/25 16:08

推 kingwei520:以前是有多好呢? 到底誰進步了? 04/25 16:11

推 kingwei520:前三個也算喔!你會說他是在TP手上進步那不也是在他手 04/25 16:17

→ kingwei520:上爛掉的然後他有想出什麼辦法嗎?? 沒有啊 04/25 16:17

推 MizunoTako:前三個的成績在他手上進步了...在最後一年爛掉沒錯... 04/25 16:21

→ MizunoTako:但是後來他們到別的地方去有人救得起來嗎？ 04/25 16:21

→ MizunoTako:安豬可是到Jaramillo手下喔...還是jaramillo浪得虛名？ 04/25 16:22

→ MizunoTako:打者狀況不好如果是短期的，那根本沒關係啊... 04/25 16:23

→ MizunoTako:打者狀況長期不好，可能有傷，可能有別的問題... 04/25 16:23

→ MizunoTako:理想上打教應該要能幫助打者找出問題...但是實際上呢？ 04/25 16:24

推 kingwei520:迪若沙就被救起起來了? 我們這位救過誰了呢? 04/25 16:24

→ MizunoTako:當年搖頭老爹也有救不起來的投手啊...所以他也不行？ 04/25 16:24

→ kingwei520:對啊!你都說有別的問題了那我們不找打教要找誰? 04/25 16:25

→ kingwei520:搖頭老爹也能和TP比喔人家救的遠多於救不起來的好不好 04/25 16:26

推 MizunoTako:jaramillo跟搖頭老爹都有救不起來的人了... 04/25 16:26

→ MizunoTako:不先去查查看有多少打者在TP手下成績進步嗎？ 04/25 16:27

→ kingwei520:那昨天問您的打教功用到底是什麼? 球員低潮不找他 04/25 16:27

推 MizunoTako:打教功能有限啊...如果每個球員低潮打教都能當特效藥 04/25 16:29

→ kingwei520:不然要找誰? 04/25 16:29

→ MizunoTako:那這樣的打教一年要領多少錢啊？XD 04/25 16:29

→ MizunoTako:找球員自己XD 04/25 16:29

推 saxontai:沒人要求 TP 萬試萬靈，但他未免也不靈太久了...orz 04/25 16:30

→ kingwei520:喔!找球員自己喔那很好啊那TP快滾吧 04/25 16:30

→ MizunoTako:他沒有不靈很久...只是他幫球員加分的部分被忽略而已XD 04/25 16:31

→ MizunoTako:找球員自己為什麼TP就要滾？這兩者好像沒有什麼關係XD 04/25 16:32

→ kingwei520:然後現在開打快1個月了隊上有5個一成多打擊率 04/25 16:32

推 MizunoTako:連紅襪那樣的打線都可以一度五連敗，五場只得9分了... 04/25 16:34

→ MizunoTako:勇士的payroll差人家那麼多，又以投手建軍當理念 04/25 16:34

→ MizunoTako:對打線就不能多給一點信心嗎... 04/25 16:35

→ MizunoTako:一直找戰犯我不知道有什麼意義... 04/25 16:35

推 kingwei520:放眼大聯盟有誰能比? 04/25 16:36

推 Roawen:Melky不用意外啊他真的強也不用一天到晚被酸HOFer 04/25 16:37

→ Roawen:Diaz本來就是對右投不行...往年幾個很殺的年度一樣是如此 04/25 16:37

→ kingwei520:那自我感覺良好我也看不出有什麼意義 04/25 16:37

→ Roawen:Glaus更不用講了..勇士找他來本來就是試試運氣 04/25 16:38

→ Roawen:目前為止真正讓球迷心中有落差的就是Escobar跟McLouth 04/25 16:39

→ saxontai:著眼過去的成功對今年戰績也沒什麼意義，跟忽不忽略無關 04/25 16:40

→ Roawen:現階段樣本真的還不夠多..五月份再來檢視差不多不過就算 04/25 16:40

推 MizunoTako:過去的成功至少有足夠的樣本數啊...今年才打17場耶XD 04/25 16:41

→ kingwei520:打教幫低潮球員走出來是他的功用啊 04/25 16:41

→ MizunoTako:如果四月份成績決定一切的話我們應該不止14連霸吧XD 04/25 16:41

→ saxontai:找戰犯的意義嘛...讓球迷有個發洩的對象 XDDD 04/25 16:41

→ MizunoTako:好奇的問一個問題... 04/25 16:42

→ kingwei520:如果這個沒有那也沒待下去的意義 04/25 16:42

→ Roawen:這兩個能回來...打線上一樣有洞存在(基本上打教有影響是沒 04/25 16:42

→ MizunoTako:打教A，到他手上80%會OPS+提升10%，但是對打者低潮無效 04/25 16:43

→ kingwei520:你提很多成功的那我們也提很多失敗的而且可能更多 04/25 16:43

→ MizunoTako:打教B，能幫助打者走出低潮，但打者成績=生涯平均 04/25 16:43

→ MizunoTako:大家喜歡A還是B？XD 04/25 16:44

→ MizunoTako:我們可以來比以看我能提出的成功案例會不會比較少XD 04/25 16:44

→ MizunoTako:當然...成功跟失敗要先定義出來XD 04/25 16:44

→ MizunoTako:不然Renteria、安豬、Giles這些都不能算成功也很囧XD 04/25 16:45

→ saxontai:我的確認為租界男不算，安豬的問題則是他自己。 04/25 16:46

推 MizunoTako:Renteria為什麼不算XD 04/25 16:47

推 Roawen:錯..但球員能力的極限在那邊也要看清楚..誰都沒法讓雜草變 04/25 16:47

→ saxontai:租界男的成功我會算在紅雀打教身上。 04/25 16:47

→ Roawen:紅花..) 04/25 16:48

推 kingwei520:租界男生涯最棒的一年是在勇士嗎? 04/25 16:50

推 Rodriguez:那五個一割男.沒人去挑剔Glaus吧.反正他只是被找來賭 04/25 16:50

→ Rodriguez:看看的.但其他四個人....會不會差生涯平均太多了點 04/25 16:51

→ kingwei520:像迪若沙在勇士就是打不出來一離開後就.... 04/25 16:52

推 MizunoTako:Renteria的Carreer year大概是2003吧...在紅鳥 04/25 16:52

→ saxontai:租界男最棒的一年是 2003 在 STL 的時候 04/25 16:52

→ Rodriguez:租借男的打擊開竅時間本來就是在紅鳥的時候.有什麼好疑 04/25 16:52

→ Rodriguez:問的. 04/25 16:53

→ MizunoTako:只是紅鳥打教怎麼會讓Renteria 2004年囧成那樣？XD 04/25 16:53

→ Rodriguez:DeRosa在勇士打得普普.去條子第二年後開始開竅 04/25 16:53

→ Rodriguez:這我也不會說Pendleton對於DeRosa的調教出問題啊 04/25 16:53

→ Rodriguez:那請問紅鳥的打教有幾個例子可以像Pemdleton一樣被拿出 04/25 16:54

→ MizunoTako:所以說看選手要用生涯年來看？讓他到生涯年的打教可以 04/25 16:54

→ Rodriguez:來大家討論的?? 04/25 16:54

→ MizunoTako:得到credit...而其他人不行？XD 04/25 16:54

推 kingwei520:那我們打較為什讓Glies也爆成那樣? 你會提我也會提啊 04/25 16:55

→ Rodriguez:紅鳥的打教每年都讓隊上看重的未來潛力掛掉一兩個?? 04/25 16:55

→ MizunoTako:R板友之前不是說要來查查TP對打者的影響？請問做了嗎？ 04/25 16:55

→ saxontai:.287/.327/.401 10HR 雖不算好，也不算太囧吧？就普普... 04/25 16:55

→ MizunoTako:OPS+從 130→88...不算囧嗎？XD 04/25 16:56

→ MizunoTako:Giles爛掉那年之前好像美國那邊就有人認為Giles是假貨 04/25 16:56

→ MizunoTako:你會因為假貨破功而怪搖頭老爹嗎？XD 04/25 16:57

→ MizunoTako:不過這樣好像指控太大...我跟Giles道歉Orz 04/25 16:57

→ kingwei520:我同意啊租界男開竅是在紅鳥最好和TP有關 04/25 16:57

→ MizunoTako:所以球員一旦打出生涯年之後，所有的打教都只能扣分了 04/25 16:58

推 Rodriguez:沒人指望有人能把一個球員從雞肋變成鴻鵠.因為那真的想 04/25 16:58

→ MizunoTako:這樣說好了...一個本來可以打出OPS+130的打者變成88 04/25 16:59

→ Rodriguez:太多.現在沒一個板友是怪Pendleton無法讓球員出現大幅 04/25 16:59

→ MizunoTako:然後到了TP手上，TP讓他變成124...這樣不叫救喔？XD 04/25 16:59

→ Rodriguez:成長吧~ 04/25 16:59

→ saxontai:我的確認為不算囧啊，有比去年 KJ 囧嗎？XD 04/25 16:59

→ Rodriguez:資料之前查過了.連一些二線的替補也有查.但還沒整理>_< 04/25 17:00

→ MizunoTako:KJ OPS+：07年116、08年109、09年83...要怎麼比？ 04/25 17:01

→ MizunoTako:所以我很好奇，大家對打教的選擇啊XD 04/25 17:02

→ MizunoTako:打教A，到他手上80%會OPS+提升10%，但是對打者低潮無效 04/25 17:02

→ MizunoTako:打教B，能幫助打者走出低潮，但打者成績=生涯平均 04/25 17:02

→ MizunoTako:大家會選哪一個XD 04/25 17:02

推 kingwei520:我只是問rent最棒的一年在那ok? 不用繞著這個講 04/25 17:05

推 MizunoTako:不好意思...Renteria的生涯年是在2003沒問題^^ 04/25 17:06

→ kingwei520:所以可以說KJ在TP手上變不行嗎? 然後今年找到第二春 04/25 17:06

推 MizunoTako:KJ今年才數十個打數...我雖然很希望他打很好，但還太早 04/25 17:08

推 Rodriguez:講個最簡單的理由就好:有哪一隊的打教可以像Pendleton這 04/25 17:10

→ Rodriguez:樣被我們這一群"不理性"的球迷動不動就質疑他的???? 04/25 17:11

推 MizunoTako:這...聽不太懂@@ 04/25 17:12

→ MizunoTako:是在說不理性比較好？還是說別隊球迷理性錯了？@@ 04/25 17:12

推 Rodriguez:簡單說.目前有哪一隊的打教被自己的球迷年年質疑的??? 04/25 17:13

→ Rodriguez:我指的不理性.是.也許有人認為我們質疑Pendleton很荒繆 04/25 17:13

→ Rodriguez:講講McDowell...從他接手搖頭老爹以來.雖然牛棚也曾經 04/25 17:14

→ MizunoTako:只是覺得網路上查資料那麼方便，查一下再講話比較好囉 04/25 17:14

→ Rodriguez:一片雞肋.這一兩年雖然看起來不錯.不敢說一定是McDowell 04/25 17:15

→ Rodriguez:會教.畢竟目前幾個RP的本質比以往好太多. 04/25 17:15

→ MizunoTako:就像搖頭老爹，雖然功力一流，但也傳出年輕投手不喜歡 04/25 17:15

→ Rodriguez:但好像沒什麼人去質疑McDowell.我甚至覺得.他老兄教得 04/25 17:15

→ Rodriguez:好不賴~ 04/25 17:16

推 Ohshima:還好勇士隊沒找你當顧問 04/25 17:16

→ Rodriguez:搖頭老爹我持保留態度.畢竟三巨投的能力.恐怕他們靠自己 04/25 17:16

→ Rodriguez:就行了...(阿災XD) 但搖頭老爹也是傳出過一些好案例 04/25 17:17

推 kingwei520:是非常多好案例吧! 04/25 17:24

推 Rodriguez:看了雖然久的MLB.也不過入門.何德何能當起顧問. 04/25 17:31

推 Rodriguez:打線趕緊加把勁.擺脫低潮步入正軌就好~ 04/25 17:33