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標題[轉錄]Re: 請問投手的表現 有年齡的split嗎
時間Tue Oct 2 23:18:46 2007
※ [本文轉錄自 MLB 看板] 作者: waitla (おなら体操～!オォーッ！) 看板: MLB 標題: Re: 請問投手的表現 有年齡的split嗎 時間: Tue Oct 2 22:32:33 2007 ※ 引述《chrislux ()》之銘言： : 個人的印象是，投手的黃金時期大概在三十歲左右 (28~35?) : 有任何數據可以對年齡做比較嗎？ : 現在大聯盟老怪物似乎一個比一個強，感受不到年齡的影響 : 請教大家了 依照 Bill James 對棒球員生涯顛峰年紀所做的研究，一般的生涯顛峰 會發生在27歲。 引用BBTN所附的解說... Age-twenty-seven peak： In Studying baseball players' peak age, Bill James found that for players with significantly long career, the most common peak age was twenty-seven. More Broadly, the peak age range for players with long careers has been pegged at twenty-five to twenty-eight and twenty-five to twenty-nine by various reserchers. Improved medical care, nutrition, and exercise regimens have helped the current generation of players — including future Hall-of-Famers Roger Clemens and Randy Johnson — perform at peak levels well into their thirties and early forties, leading to speculation that peak age may be older than it once was. To date, though, no study has conclusively refuted James's findings, suggesting that the Rocket and the Big Unit remain outliers. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 218.162.141.62
推 redsnipertd:..可以借轉王板嗎?謝謝 10/02 23:00
推 on32:邦斯巔峰年在37歲 超級異常 10/02 23:01
推 siliver:所謂的數據,就是要有異常咩,不然照年齡發錢就好:p 10/02 23:02
→ bbbruce:我建議最好不要轉 因為我實在怕王建民變弱 10/02 23:10
推 chrislux:感謝!! 10/02 23:10
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推 bbbruce:希望王建民能威到45歲!!! 10/02 23:24
推 ZzzBa:不知道P-value多少 10/02 23:29
推 Annrod:"棒球員生涯顛峰" 表示當初洋基版戰一個球員過了32歲就會走 10/02 23:35
→ Annrod:下坡的話題看來滿有問題的 XD 10/02 23:36
推 redsnipertd:這裡也有說到現代醫學跟訓練跟運動科學blablabla 10/02 23:40
→ redsnipertd:可以讓球員能夠維持這個高峰期久一點~ 10/02 23:41
→ redsnipertd:重點在於25~27歲的確是一般選手進入高峰期的年紀 10/02 23:41
→ redsnipertd:至於能維持多久我想就是另外一回事了~ 10/02 23:42
推 abc12812:是阿 當初我說32歲後走下坡 結果一堆人戰我 還說什麼球員 10/02 23:53
推 siliver:恩,不過這只是一般狀況而已,但是決定薪水時多少都會參考. 10/02 23:53
→ abc12812:的巔峰是在32到37 然後拿一堆特例證明... 10/02 23:54
→ siliver:特別是今年A-ROD的約......有的戰囉..... 10/02 23:55
→ siliver:請問那個討論串是何時,我也去看看. 10/02 23:55
推 redsnipertd:請看清楚,上peak,不代表之後就會"一定"走下坡 10/02 23:57
推 Annrod:那個討論串戰滿大的，建議不要看比較不會影響心情 XD 10/03 00:09
推 Kinra:同意XD 10/03 00:11
推 Linyen:上peak, 不走下坡, 那就不能稱為peak... (默) 10/03 00:17
→ ZzzBa:推樓上XDrz.. 10/03 00:21
推 redsnipertd:perform at peak levels well into their thirties an 10/03 00:22
→ redsnipertd:d early forties. 這是文中原句 謝謝 10/03 00:23
→ ZzzBa:L大是說數學的定義阿,可見這個作者數學不太好 10/03 00:28
推 Kinra:這個作者只是定義比較寬而已XD 10/03 00:35
→ Kinra:對他而言大概高到90%以上都叫peak level吧 10/03 00:35
→ siliver:沒辦法,總有一些傢伙有好幾個peak的 ~"~ 10/03 00:45