作者dblsesame (芝麻)
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標題Re: [外電] Quick Note: Chien-Ming Wang
時間Sun Apr 13 10:46:03 2008
這篇實在很難翻 請大家鞭小力一點
※ 引述《ytc101 (ytc101)》之銘言:
: http://drivelinemechanics.com/2008/04/12/quick-note-chien-ming-wang/
: I hate to start this article off all doom-and-gloom style, but I’m
: already unhappy with where this analysis is going. This still accurately
: captures the intensity of pitching for the Yankees, but it also indicates
: two things I am probably going to dislike in Wang’s delivery:
我也不喜歡在文章一開頭就這麼悲觀
但是這篇分析似乎一直往這個方向走
http://www.drivelinemechanics.com/images/wangstill.jpg
這張照片指出我對王投球動作最不欣賞的兩點:
: * He is showing the ball to CF/2b, which unnecessarily increases
: stress on the UCL, and
: * He is taking the ball laterally behind his body, commonly called
: “reverse rotation.” However, as an addendum, he does have his elbows
: below the shoulder in this picture, so when I analyze the video, it
: might be okay.
* 他握球的手位置指向中外野/二壘的方向
這會對UCL(ulnar collateral ligament)造成不必要的壓迫
* 他把球由側面拉到身後方 通稱"反轉"(“reverse rotation.”)
但是他的手肘還是保持在肩膀的下方的 所以也許video分析會顯示這是ok的
: Let’s check out the video…
http://www.drivelinemechanics.com/images/wang1.gif
: Looks like I was wrong: I actually like quite a bit of what I see here.
看來我錯了: 事實上我還滿喜歡我看到的
: * Arm Action: Good. He sweeps his arms down, back, and out in a
: pendulum swing. His arm is up at footstrike, and he keeps the elbow
: below the PAS shoulder. He avoids excessive reverse rotation, and naturally
: “scap loads,” rather than forcing the issue. However, he does show the
: ball to CF/2b, which I don’t like, as stated before. Otherwise, very good.
: * Tempo: Great. 19 frames to footplant from maximal leg lift.
: * Ball Release: Excellent. Gets a ton of hip/torso separation (most
: important piece of velocity), points the PAS shoulder at the target, and
: powerfully throws with his whole body.
: * Followthrough: Excellent. Casual viewers will see what looks like
: gloveside flyout and not throwing against a firm front side, but it’s
: actually the opposite. Wang brings his chest to the glove and lets his
: arm travel across his body as his shoulders continue to rotate. He does
: indeed firm up the front side during the followthrough step, even tucking
: the elbow into his side to some degree (which I love). It’s only after
: his arm is about done with the followthrough step and into recovery wher
: his GAS flies back, which I have no problem with. Furthermore, he
: aggressively brings his PAS leg up and to the side of his body, and though
: I’d like a bit more rotation, his great followthrough step compensates for
: it.
手臂動作:
很好
手臂向後方下掃 鐘擺式結尾 起步時手臂抬高 手肘保持在PAS
(pitching-arm side)肩膀的下方 避免了過多的反轉 沒有勉強
而是自然地“scap loads,”不過握球的手位置指向中外野/二壘
的毛病是存在的 如前所述 我不喜歡這點 除此之外 都很好
節奏 :
非常好
從腿抬到最高點到放下有19frames
(不知道為什麼這樣算Great)
(應該是因為沒浪費太多時間,捕手好抓盜壘吧
-by mmollet大)
釋球動作:
傑出
臀部和軀幹分離很大 這是產生球速的關鍵
PAS肩指向目標,有力地用全身投球
後續動作:
傑出
一般觀眾可能覺得他拿手套那一側打開 而沒能結實地投出
其實正好相反 他是在快要完成後續動作時GAS(glove-arm side)
才打開 這我不覺得是什麼問題 而且他的手肘也大致上有夾
緊 這點我也很欣賞 他投球側的腿提起再放下的動作很猛
我覺得轉動的幅度再大一點會更好 不過他良好的後續動作
足以彌補這一點
: Mechanical Conclusions
投球機制結論
: I’d only change the fact that he shows the ball to CF/2b; I’d prefer if
: he turned it more towards third base at footstrike. Otherwise, very good.
: I suspect (but can’t tell without high-speed video) that he pronates hard
: through release to get the great sink he does on his fastball/changeup
: combinations, and I also think his slider is safer than most for the same
: reason. How about that pitch on the video, eh? Pretty nasty. Hard tailing
: pitches are my favorite ones, not only because they are extremely
: hard to adjust to, but because they are so effective against hitters from
: both sides of the plate and because you need to pronate hard to get that
: kind of action.
(又再提了一次 中外野/二壘 = =) 我希望他能改到偏三壘的方向
此外都很好 我猜他在投球過程中 手有很用力地向下壓 以此讓快速球和變化球下沉
同理 這會讓他的滑球比大部分人的滑球都安全
看到上面那一球嗎? 很犀利吧 尾勁強的球是我的最愛
因為它們讓打者很難跟得上 對左右打都有效 也因為你得很用力地向下壓
才能讓球這樣動
(那球真的很誇張, 眼看就要碰到Ortiz了 居然轉彎兼下沉)
: Let’s check out his pitch selection:
type Speed Break x Break z Balls Strikes Strikes Foul
(MPH) (inches) (inches) Called Swinging Foul tip
Sinker 94.08
-6.89 6.64 167 70 16 88
Slider 85.14 1.41 2.6 41 15 20 16
Change 81.42
-5.87 7.82 21 2 9 10
In play Singles Doubles Triples Home Runs
outs
83 21 2 0 1
12 6 0 0 0
7 2 0 0 0
: That is some ridiculous lateral movement on his sinker, and he combines it
: with great depth. You can compare it to his changeup, which actually sinks
: less than his sinker, which is pretty much unheard of.
: Interestingly enough, Wang doesn’t really pound the bottom half of the
: strike zone with his sinker:
: He primarily works the middle and bottom thirds of the strike zone, rather
: than aiming low. Wang’s got great movement on his sinker, though, so hitters
: are probably naturally swinging over it due to the perception of the
: location, rather than the actual location itself. That’s even better than
: pounding the bottom part of the zone, because failure to pick up the real
: location of the pitch is what gets you soft contact.
: When you put together a primary pitch that sinks more than the average
: changeup and combine it with a slider with great tilt and depth, who cares
: if you have a third pitch? Wang manages to work in his changeup anyway,
: which has great velocity differential and decent enough movement on its
: own. Clean mechanics, plus velocity, and deceptive pitches? Sounds good
: to me.
他的沉球的横向移動真的很誇張 而且還很有深度 你可以把他的沉球和他的變化球
拿來比一比 他的變化球居然比沉球下沉的要少 這是前所未聞的
有趣的是 王並沒有集中沉球在好球帶的下方
http://www.drivelinemechanics.com/images/wangfx.gif
他主要是瞄準好球帶中間和下三分之一的部分 而不是只有下方
因為他的沉球很會跑 所以打擊者會對他們感覺上的位置揮棒
這容易讓打擊者打到球的上方 而不是球的實際位置
這比瞄準好球帶下方還要好
當你的主要球路下沉的比普通變化球還厲害 再配上一顆
會飄又有深度的滑球 誰還管你有沒有第三種球路啊?
即使如此 王還是加了變化球進去 這球有速度差 也跑得不錯
投球機制乾淨俐落 球速也上乘 再加上欺敵的球路 聽起來很不錯啊
(現在是連美國人也流行低調了嗎?)
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