作者Kinra (喵天使)
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標題Re: [討論] Wang & Webb
時間Tue Apr 29 23:24:14 2008
這篇作者寫得很草率，篇幅比例明顯偏小王，白字也不少，
底下我連原文的錯誤一起訂正了。
※ 引述《xiemark (aisinjuro)》之銘言：
: Sinkerballers: Baseball's New "Power" Pitchers
沈球投手：棒球界新一代「威力型」投手
※常常看到的翻譯是速球投手，但這裡既然把Power打上引號，自然得調整一下，
※畢竟power本身並不是直接就有速球的意思。以下順應標題翻譯。
: Maybe it's the Clemens Curse, but something's happening to the
: power-pitching ace since the man who's name was synonymous with the term
: turned up in the Mitchell report over the winter. Two guys who fit the
: rocket-arm mold - Barry Zito and C.C. Sabathia - can't seem to throw
: strikes, get people out or win.
不知道是不是Roger Clemens的詛咒，這個身為威力型王牌投手代名詞的男人
去年冬天出現在Mitchell報告之後，所謂威力型王牌好像就被霉運掃到了。
兩位火箭臂投手，Barry Zito和C.C. Sabathia，
好像投好球、解決打者跟獲勝的能力都突然失靈了。
: Just a month into the season, the 2002 and 2007 Cy Young winners,
: respectively, are a combined 1-10, with Zito at 0-6 for the first time in
: his career.
開季一個月，這兩位分別拿過2002年與2007年賽揚獎的投手加起來1勝10敗，
其中Zito更是0勝6敗，這是他生涯第一次碰到這種事。
: They've been replaced at the top of the rotation by the kind of guys who
: throw pitches that not so much blow by hitters as elude them. Sinkerballers
: Chien-Ming Wang of the Yankees and Diamondback hurler Branden Webb are
: 11-0 between them, and they're doing it by baffling hitters with stuff
: that dips, slides and moves all over the place.
在輪值前端的投手陣中，他們的風采被另一類投手搶走了。
這類投手丟的球多半不是火速噴過打者身旁，而是巧妙的避開打者。
沈球投手如洋基的王建民與響尾蛇隊的Webb目前加起來11勝0敗，
他們是靠會下沈、橫移甚至到處亂跑的球種來困惑打者。
: Note: Any implied correlation between the shocking declines of Zito and
: Sabathia and Clemens/Mitchell is for entertainment purposes only. Though
: Zito was also mediocre last season (11-13), they are both outstanding
: pitchers whose woeful records could very well be turned around by fall.
: In the meantime, I'm getting a kick out of Webb and Wang, the law-firm
: sounding pair who've quietly emerged as the standards of the early
: season.
備註：如果我上面像是在暗示Zito與CC驚人的退步和Clemens/Mitchell報告的事有關，
那只是為了娛樂讀者而已。雖然Zito去年成績也普普（11勝13敗），
但他們兩位投手都相當傑出，很可能入秋之後成績就跟現在的慘狀完全不同了。
同時我也在觀察Webb跟王當中得到不少樂趣，
Webb & Wang，兩個搭在一起聽起來像法律事務所的名字，
而這二人組已經默默的成為了季初的投手典範。
: Webb was 34-18 in '06 and '07. In 2004, he was baseball's wildman. He
: threw 17 wild pitches and walked 119 batters, more than any other player
: in the majors. He also led the NL with 16 losses that year. The turnaround
: was attributed to anything magical. "Basically, I just tried to do what I've
: done the last three years, which is throw a lot of sinkers," Webb said. Just
: keep throwing them until he got it right.
Webb在06與07年加起來34勝18敗。
2004年他是棒球界最狂野的男人！他砸了17個暴投，保送119名打者，大聯盟最多。
那年他16敗也是國聯最多。
他後來的大變身被當作奇蹟，
他說：「基本上我就是繼續試我前三年做過的事，也就是投一堆伸卡球。」
一直投，投到投對了為止。
※原文原本寫2003年，但我查BR看到那個成績對應的是2004年…
: Wang has pretty much been an "ace" since his second season in the
: majors. He was 19-6 in '06, 19-7 in '07 (if he's 19-8 in '08, I'm calling
: the authorities). In fact, he reached 50 wins faster than any pither over
: the last 25 years.
王建民從上大聯盟第二個球季以來差不多就一直是「王牌」，
他06年19勝6敗、07年19勝7敗（要是08年19勝8敗我就要打電話問大聯盟官方了！）。
事實上，近25年來他是最快達到50勝的投手。
: But because he doesn't throw peas, and does get a lot of strikeouts, he
: was never really perceived in New York as an "ace" in the traditional
: sense. That iconic tag was reserved for manly-men pitchers, guys like
: Clemens and his ex-BFF, Andy Pettitte.
但是因為他不會投那種快到看不見的球，也不會搶下一堆三振，
一直以來他在紐約都沒有被視為傳統認定的那種「王牌」。
王牌這個具有代表性意義的稱號是留給那些硬派投手的，
像是Clemens跟他以前的死黨Andy Pettitte。
: Yeah, close your eyes and think ace and images of Bob Gibson, Sandy Koufax
: and Vida Blue come to mind. So do Steve Carlton, Nolan Ryan and Dwight
: Good. Or Pedro Martinez in his prime. Guys who throw smoke and turn bats
: into toothpicks.
沒錯，閉上眼睛想像一下所謂王牌，Bob Gibson、Sandy Koufax、Vida Blue這些人
就會浮上腦海。或者Steve Carlton、Nolan Ryan或Dwight Gooden。
或者全勝期的Pedro Martinez。
就是那些火球連發，把打者球棒變牙籤的強投。
: Chien-Ming Wang isn't that guy, and even as he was winning 19 games in
: successive seasons it was as if Yankee fans still felt he wasn't the team's
: "ace."
王建民不是那種人，即使他連續兩個球季拿下19勝，
洋基迷好像還是覺得他不是隊上的「王牌」。
: Maybe it's his demeanor. Though Wang stands 6-3 and weighs 225, imposing
: he is not. He nature is calm, typically unruffled. Not "ace-like."
: Somehow I can't see Wang tossing a broken bat at a hitter he'd just
: thumped, as he glared at the batter as if he wanted to eat his young.
可能跟他的舉止氣度有關，雖然他6呎3吋225磅重，但他不會讓人覺得很有威壓感。
他本性冷靜沈著，並不會「像個王牌一樣」。
不知怎的我就是無法想像王建民撿起剛被他打斷的棒子往打者扔，
一邊像是想吃掉他兒子一樣狠狠瞪著打者的情景。
※感謝版友說明，偉哉火箭人～～
: This year, Wang has expanded his repertoire after seeing last season what
: can happen when the sinker doesn't sink. (Search: Wang, Cleveland and
: playoffs). He's added sliders, splitters and chanegups to the mix, and it's
: almost not fair.
去年王建民見識過沈球不沈會怎樣之後（請搜尋王建民 印地安人隊 季後賽），
今年他拓展了自己的球路，加了滑球、指叉球、變速球下去，簡直欺負人。
: Batters aren't quaking as if they're facing someone who could throw the
: ball through them; they're just confused, baffled, befuddled.
打者們碰到那種投出來的球只能目送它通過的投手會嚇得皮皮挫，
但他們碰到王建民的時候並不會怕，他們只會困惑、迷惘、不知所措。
: On Sunday, in a battle against Sabathia and the Indians, Wang allowed only
: two batters beyond first base over his final six innings, after allowing
: two runners in the first.
週日王建民先發對戰印地安人與Sabathia較勁，
第一局讓兩個人站上一壘之後，後面六局只讓兩名打者上壘。
: All told, he gave up just four hits and struck out nine over seven innings
: in the Yankee's 1-0 win. He's now 5-0.
總結他只被敲四支安打，七局三振九個人，洋基1-0贏球，於是他現在5勝0敗了。
: That same day, Webb outdueled the reigning NL Cy Young winner, Jake Peavy
: of San Diego. He gave up just one unearned over six innings to improve to
: 6-0 and lower his ERA to 1.98 - sixth-best in all of baseball.
同一天Webb技壓去年國聯賽揚獎得主．教士隊的Jake Peavy。
他六局只失一分非自責分，取得6勝0敗的成績，ERA降到1.96，大聯盟排行第六。
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◆ From: 140.112.252.14
推 paleface:有...火箭人就做過....對PIAZZA 04/29 23:27
推 ying11027:這篇很難翻 大推翻譯 04/29 23:31
推 cck73823:火箭人丟過~XDDD 04/29 23:32
推 nytime:if he's 19-8 in '08, I'm calling the authorities,,,XD 04/29 23:32
→ nytime:我在洋基官網留言板看過有人這麼說,寧願王今年拿18勝或20勝 04/29 23:33
→ nytime:也不要他今年再拿19勝,因為那對王太殘忍XD 04/29 23:34
推 eaquson: 04/29 23:35
推 HunterD:"無法跨越的界線" 這樣嗎 XD 04/29 23:35
→ Kinra:還真的啊XDDD 有影片嗎 04/29 23:36
→ Kinra:害我突然佩服起自己的翻譯功力XDDDDD 04/29 23:36
→ fewhy:19勝很好阿 拿個15年~20年就好了 04/29 23:37
推 nytime:是啊XD,就是跟MOOSE一樣,什麼都差一點,離20win只差一步，如 04/29 23:38
推 Carl0815:翻得真是生動,強者~~ 04/29 23:38
→ nytime:果連三年如此停在19勝,投手會瘋掉吧XD 04/29 23:38
→ nytime:不對, 是球迷會瘋掉XD 對了,謝謝原PO翻得如此生動 04/29 23:39
推 saisai60:they're just confused, baffled, befuddled. XDDDD 04/29 23:39
推 saisai60:so, what's they can do? 04/29 23:45
推 poqwer:推推推~~ 謝謝翻譯~ 04/29 23:50
推 wega:"撿起剛被他的球擠斷的棒子往打者丟"似乎比較順~ 04/29 23:50
→ Kinra:好 我這樣改 翻那麼怪是因為我不知道它真的發生過XDD 04/29 23:53
※ 編輯: Kinra 來自: 140.112.252.14 (04/29 23:55)
推 Sunofgod:推 打電話給官方那邊XDDDD 04/30 00:18
推 pennykidd:麥達克斯不算是作者所認定的王牌類型嗎？小王能變老麥嗎 04/30 00:55
推 realG:很生動 XD 04/30 01:46
推 loloool:麥狗是神...不是王牌 04/30 01:55
→ biggest1983:在1:13和2:13有火箭人拿著斷棒的畫面 04/30 02:32
→ biggest1983:看的出來很生氣...而且朝著打者跑壘的方向丟回去... 04/30 02:34
推 turgnev:有看有推！感謝你～ 04/30 10:07
推 HXZ:好希望連續10年19勝歐...XD 04/30 15:28
推 sean302:XD....戒指戒指戒指!!! 04/30 16:29
推 huipao:翻的好~~~ 04/30 22:12