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標題[外電] All-Defensive Team picks (只翻騎士球員部分)
時間Thu Apr 8 03:58:06 2010
By John Hollinger
ESPN.com
Updated: April 6, 2010, 3:15 PM ET
As a general rule, we don't pay nearly enough attention to defense. Pick a
game, any game, and the first player mentioned in the wrap-up will be the
high scorer from the winning team. The game's statistical revolution, to this
point, hasn't been particularly helpful in that regard. While we can show you
in very precise terms how effective somebody like Kevin Martin is at the
offensive end, we have very little ammunition to make similar arguments for
his teammates like Chuck Hayes or Shane Battier.
一般來說，我們對防守評價比較不關心。隨便挑一場比賽，任何比賽，最先提到的球員總
是勝隊得分最高的球員。統計數據的革命目前為止並沒有改變這個現象，我們能夠很明確
的舉出Kevin Martin在進攻端多麼有效率，但是對他的隊友例如Chuck Hayes和Shane
Battier在防守端的貢獻則無法明確表示。
But there are ways to try to rectify such oversights, and with that, it's
once again time for me to name my All-Defensive team.
但是有些方法可以看出些端倪，藉由這些方法，我要告訴你們我所評價的年度防守球隊。
Despite all that's been done with numbers over the past decade or so, this
remains an inherently subjective exercise. So let me lay down some ground
rules.
雖然數據分析已經使用十多年了，但仍然包含了些主觀的成分，這裡先提出一些基本原則
。
First, I named players at the position they guard, not the position they play
on offense. For one player below in particular, this is a very important
distinction. Second, minutes matter: Somebody who plays great in 1,000
minutes can't match the value of somebody who plays 2,000.
首先，我根據球員防守對象的位置來分析，而非球員本身進攻端所打的位置。對名單中某
個球員來說，影響很大。再來，上場時間有影響，對那些只打了1000分鐘的球員來說，比
不上那些出賽2000分鐘的球員。
From there, I used three techniques to choose the team. First, I looked at
the player's on-court versus off-court point differential at the defensive
end, measured per 100 possessions (hat-tip to BasketballValue.com for that
one). I've included that measure for every player listed below -- the more
negative the number, the better. Second, I looked at a team's defensive
efficiency; having an average point differential for the top-ranked defense
(Charlotte) is a very different feat than doing the same for the worst
defense (Toronto).
接下來，我使用三種技巧來衡量。第一，我根據球員在場上與不在場上的失分差距，以
100次進攻標準化。以下球員都經此評量，分數越低代表越好(負的比正的好)。第二，我
根據球隊防守效率，同樣的失分差距在防守強隊(例如山貓)與防守爛隊(例如暴龍)價值是
不同的。
And, as always, then there's the subjective component. On this front, I'll at
least mention that I've put in the legwork. I saw all these teams play
start-to-finish on the tube at least 10 times, and saw all but one of the top
17 defensive teams in person, most of them more than once. (Sorry, Bobcats,
the schedule didn't work out for us this season. Maybe in the playoffs.)
最後，是根據我的主觀評價，我要先說明，每支球隊我都有從頭到尾觀看十場以上的比賽
影片，前17名防守隊伍中除了一隊以外我都有親自到現場，大部分不只一次。(抱歉，山
貓，本季我總是抽不出時間去看你們比賽。也許季後賽會去。)
At each position, I have players for three teams and a few honorable mention
candidates. You can argue differently in several cases and it would be tough
for me to offer a convincing retort; as I said, this is an inherently
subjective exercise. Regardless, here's one man's opinion on how they should
rank:
每一個位置，我會提名年度防守前三隊，還有幾名遺珠之憾。你可以質疑我，我也很難說
服你，畢竟有主觀成分在內。管他的，這是一份個人意見。
Point guard
控球後衛
Point guard is always the toughest position to fill, and it's even tougher
without one of the usual mainstays in New Orleans' Chris Paul, who missed
time with injuries and came back hobbling. We can cobble a decent list of
candidates anyway, but we've had better seasons at this spot.
控衛總是最難選擇的位置，尤其是本應占據一席的Chris Paul在本季因傷而表現不佳的情
況下。(沒有騎士球員，不翻了)
Honorable mention: Indiana has had a rough season, but the Pacers have
improved quite a bit at the defensive end. The ability of Earl Watson (+2.35)
to defend at the point of attack has been a big reason, because Troy Murphy
and Roy Hibbert sure as heck aren't stopping anybody who gets past Watson. In
fact, those two largely explain why Watson's on-court versus off-court number
is so mediocre.
Two rookies also stood out. Jrue Holiday of Philadelphia (+0.92) could be
positively awesome in another year or two; for now we just need to flag him
as one to watch for the future. While splitting his season between two teams,
Eric Maynor had monstrously good +minus numbers (-5.55) playing behind two
pretty decent defenders in Deron Williams and Russell Westbrook. I'm a little
skeptical because he didn't do anything that particularly stood out, but I'll
be watching him a lot more closely going forward.
In the oldies but goodies category, Andre Miller (-3.50), Deron Williams
(+1.18) and Raymond Felton (+2.07) continue to warrant mention as tough,
no-nonsense guards who keep their man in front and follow the game plan.
Miller is the most vulnerable of the three to penetration but also the best
at playing off the ball and reading opponents' plays, helping explain yet
another sterling on-court versus off-court differential. Williams' size is
his greatest asset, letting him deny physical point guards their preferred
positions in the paint and allowing him to switch onto wings if needed. As
for Felton, his numbers would be better if he didn't moonlight periodically
at the 2, where he gives up too many inches. As the starting point guard for
the league's No. 1 defense, he's been as steady as they come.
Lowry
Third team: Kyle Lowry, Houston (-3.88)
I had him ranked higher, but his play dropped off toward the end -- he mailed
in the Indiana game Sunday, for instance. In spite of the slump, I'm a big
fan of Lowry because of his toughness, knack for taking charges and
exceptional lateral quickness.
His numbers look awesome because he shares minutes with a poor defender
(Aaron Brooks), but he's a stud defender regardless.
Hill
Second team: George Hill, San Antonio (+0.92)
He's a combo guard who owns freakishly long arms that he's learning to use to
great effect at the defensive end, but Hill's numbers suffer a bit because he
was so often used as a stopper at the 2. He can defend that spot capably but
at 6-3 gives up some inches.
It's at the 1 where Hill is a real defensive force, which is one reason San
Antonio has held up so well in Tony Parker's absence.
Rondo
First team: Rajon Rondo, Boston (-2.20)
Rondo remains the cream of the crop when it comes to defending the point
guard position in spite of a propensity for gambling that sometimes drives
Boston coach Doc Rivers crazy. He's the main reason the Celtics are so good
at forcing turnovers, leading the league in steals and using his young legs
to save Boston's aging core from a serious speed disadvantage. As an added
plus, his arms are so long that he can switch to face bigger guards with
relative ease.
Shooting guard
得分後衛
I wasn't really crazy about this season's candidates, to be honest. Shooting
guards are mostly offensive players. While there are exceptions, we had a lot
of good defenders but no great ones and ended up making some compromises. It
didn't help that two of the best, Shane Battier (-0.34) and Raja Bell, fell
off our list due to age and injuries.
老實說我對今年的候選名單不是很滿意，得分後衛主要負責進攻，雖然還是有些例外，但
今年有很多不錯的防守球員卻沒有絕佳的，因此很難評量。即使兩名本來很棒的防守球員
Shane Battier和Raja Bell因為年紀與受傷而落榜還是一樣難選。
Honorable mention: Thabo Sefolosha of Oklahoma City is an emerging force as a
defensive stopper. But as much as I wanted to put my Swiss compadre in the
top three to reward the Thunder's overall defensive strength, his on-court
versus off-court numbers and opponent PER didn't warrant such consideration
and I didn't see enough subjectively to overrule the numbers.
Arron Afflalo (minu-0.14) was flat-out stolen from the Pistons and, like
Sefolosha, may be a fixture on my All-Defensive team over the next few years,
with his strength against post-ups being a particularly useful asset. But
Denver was just a middling defensive team, and -- as with Sefolosha --
Afflalo's stats weren't overwhelming enough to put him in the top three.
Delonte West (-2.02) is a top-notch defender at the 2 when he's locked in,
which was more the case the second half of the season than the first half. If
he keeps it up for a full season he's in the top three, but not this time.
遺珠之憾之一，Delonte West (-2.02)。當他認真的時候是第一流的得分後衛防守者，可
惜主要是在下半季，如果他能維持整季的表現，能進入前三名，不過不是這次。
Kirk Hinrich (+0.60) missed time with injuries and gives up inches to nearly
every opponent, which leads him to foul more than most other elite defenders.
Nonetheless, he's a very effective stopper for one of the league's better
defensive teams.
Kidd
Third team: Jason Kidd, Dallas (-3.87)
Kidd guarded shooting guards almost exclusively for much of the season,
although he's done it a bit less since the Caron Butler trade. While Kidd is
a traffic cone against fast point guards, he defends bigger players extremely
well: He is strong, has enough size to check 2s and still moves well through
screens.
Believe it or not, at age 37 he's also fourth in the league in steals per
game and tied for second in total steals. (Also, he's fourth all-time in
total steals and likely to pass No. 3 Gary Payton and No. 2 Michael Jordan to
finish second behind John Stockton.) Throw in his high hoops IQ and ability
to pester post players and still get back to his man, and Kidd is a
high-impact defensive player despite his glaring vulnerability to speed.
Bryant
Second team: Kobe Bryant, L.A. Lakers (-4.29)
Bryant still turns it on and off at this end, but the past couple years the
"on" switch has been illuminated more consistently.
Like a lot of top offensive players he doesn't spend a lot of time checking
the opponents' top scoring threat, but when he's committed, he's still as
good as they come at this end thanks to his legendary competitiveness and
underrated muscle.
Wade
First team: Dwyane Wade, Miami (+1.19)
Miami is fourth in defensive efficiency this season. Fourth. Look at that
roster and give me one good reason the Heat rank that highly. I'll give you
the answer: Because they have a 6-4 guard who can block shots at the rim,
snuff out opposing plays from the weak side and generally wreak havoc off the
ball.
Wade used to cancel out his prolific play by gambling too much, but now he is
picking his spots and as a result has become the league's best freelancer.
Wade is good on the ball, too, but his best work comes when he can defend a
secondary option and roam.
Small forward
小前鋒
In contrast to shooting guard, the small forward position gave us an
unusually strong field of candidates. The 3 is traditionally a spot where
we're scrounging for a full set of candidates, but this season I had to
exclude several players who seemed worthy of at least third-team
consideration.
與得分後衛相比，本季小前鋒出乎意料的有許多球員可選，過去通常很難湊出防守前三
名，但這次我不得不刪去一些至少值得防守第三隊的球員。
Honorable mention: Two young Blazers are working their way up this list.
Martell Webster handled stopper responsibilities for much of the season and
did solid work, especially when matched against bigger players who didn't
rely on quickness. He's not quite a natural, but he's put in a lot of effort.
Late in the season, after an injury, Nicolas Batum came on and provided an
impact. He's likely to be a regular on this list in coming years but doesn't
have enough minutes to get more than honorable mention this season.
It pains me to exclude these next three players in particular from the squad.
Utah's Andrei Kirilenko (-4.78) was a huge force, playing some of his best D
since his All-Star season. Thanks to his incredibly long arms, few are better
at coming from behind an opposing big man for the block; additionally,
Kirilenko tightened up his previously somewhat lax perimeter defense and, as
always, got his mitts on the ball tons of times thanks to his superior length.
Boston's Paul Pierce (-1.91) remains vastly underrated for his D, as he's one
of the league's few stars who routinely checks the opponent's best scoring
threat. While Pierce gets a lot of help from all the quality surrounding him
in Boston, he's still the one doing a lot of the heavy lifting.
Finally, Dallas' Shawn Marion (-3.27) is part of the reason I could include
Jason Kidd at shooting guard -- Marion often checks quick point guards and
does a reasonable job of it, plus he's been extremely effective in guarding
more traditional 3s like Carmelo Anthony and LeBron James.
Artest
Third team: Ron Artest, L.A. Lakers (-4.32)
Artest isn't as quick as he used to be and struggles chasing players through
screens, but he is impossible to post up against, has incredibly quick hands
and plays as hard as anyone in the league. His arrival has made L.A. a better
defensive team despite the implosion of its bench and the decline of point
guard Derek Fisher, with the Lakers leading the league in defense for a big
chunk of the season before a late-season slump sent them to their current
sixth position.
James
Second team: LeBron James, Cleveland (+0.46)
James' on-court versus off-court numbers suffer in part because Cleveland's
other two aces, Delonte West and Anderson Varejao, are usually on the court
when he isn't. But he's been an equally big reason the Cavs are eighth in
defensive efficiency despite working in the plodding Shaquille O'Neal and
suffering several injuries along the way. His half-court help defense still
could use improvement, but he's become a very good on-ball defender and a
veritable human eraser against opponent fast breaks because of his chase-down
speed. And as for posting him up, forget about it. You'll have better luck
trying to back down an 18-wheeler.
防守第二隊:LeBron James (+0.46)，他的場上場下失分差數據不是很好，但這是因為騎
士的另外兩名防守悍將Delonte West和Anderson Varejao通常是在LBJ退場時上陣。他是
本季騎士失去大歐還能維持防守效率第八名的原因之一，他的半場防守還有進步空間，但
他是個很好的跟球防守者，也是很好的快攻防守者，靠著他驚人的速度。想要在低位單吃
他? 算了吧，讓一台18輪大卡車後退可能簡單一些。
Wallace
First team: Gerald Wallace, Charlotte (+0.19)
Sorry, LeBron. Wallace was the best defensive player on (at the moment) the
best defensive team. One of the big changes under Larry Brown has been the
conversion of Wallace from a gambling rover into a solid stay-at-home
defender.
He still impacts the game with his athleticism as sort of a poor man's Wade,
playing passing lanes when opportunities strike and surprising bigger players
with his shot-blocking, but now it's done in the confines of one of the
league's most disciplined defenses. Additionally, few are better switching
onto smaller players, and Wallace's versatility defending 2s, 3s and 4s gives
Brown a lot of leeway in matchups.
Wallace's +minus isn't great, but partly that's because of how the Bobcats
play: All of Charlotte's starters have unimpressive +minus numbers, but as a
group they play the vast majority of the minutes for the league's top-ranked
club in defensive efficiency.
Power forward
大前鋒
The competition gets tighter as the players get bigger, and power forward is
the most interesting position in that sense because of the versatility it
requires. Depending on whether the matchup is somebody like Rashard Lewis or
an opponent more like Carlos Boozer, the players on this list have to defend
post players on one night and guard the 3-point line the next. The best of
them do it seamlessly.
球員體型增大，競爭越激烈，大前鋒是最有趣的位置，因為其必備的多功能技巧。防守對
象有時是像Rashard Lewis這樣的射手，有時則是Carlos Boozer這類型的低位球員。這份
名單上的球員要能同時防守這兩類對手，最佳防守球員兩樣都做得很好。
Honorable mention: Lamar Odom (-3.94) doesn't get enough credit for his D. He
can guard anybody 1 through 4, he never gets overpowered despite lacking a
muscular frame, and he's never out of position. For a player who struggled
with focus earlier in his career, he's made an amazing transformation into a
reliable little-things guy.
Kevin Garnett, Boston (-5.42) drags his leg around and has clearly lost a
step -- most notably when he switches onto the perimeter -- but his smarts,
unparalleled length and legendary tenacity still make him one of the game's
most effective defensive players.
Kenyon Martin (-0.96) doesn't have the numbers of some of the other players
on this list, and neither does his team, but his mettle and ability to check
smaller players on switches make him a key piece in Denver's arsenal -- and
one that's been sorely missed as the Nuggets limp through the homestretch.
Oklahoma City's Serge Ibaka (-1.99) didn't play a lot of minutes, but he's a
terror in the making because of his length, quickness and shot-blocking
ability. Of particular note was the fourth quarter of the game in Portland
this season, when he basically eradicated LaMarcus Aldridge from the box
score -- Aldridge didn't get a shot attempt the entire quarter, and it wasn't
from lack of trying.
Mbah a Moute
Third team: Luc Richard Mbah a Moute, Milwaukee (-2.90)
He can check 3s or 4s, inside or out, and remains the league's most
underrated defensive player. Right now the only thing preventing him from
ranking higher is his offense; he's played only 1,681 minutes this season
because his inability to shoot, score or pass makes it difficult to justify
keeping him on the floor.
If he ever becomes competent offensively he'll be an All-Defense fixture for
the next decade. He's that good.
Smith
Second team: Josh Smith, Atlanta (-3.79)
According to HoopData.com, Smith leads the league in "defensive plays"
(blocks plus steals plus charges) per game. He's rediscovered his
shot-blocking knack after a mysterious decline last season, and he has a
unique position in the league leader charts: He's the shortest player in the
top 10 in blocks and the tallest player in the top 10 in steals. Smith has
become smarter about taking his gambles, staying on the floor more often,
while the ability of Smith and Al Horford to switch onto smaller guards is
the key to Atlanta's entire defensive strategy, one that can best be summed
up as "Switch everything."
The only negative is that the Hawks are just 14th overall in defensive
efficiency. Swiss-cheese guards and horrific transition defense are the main
culprits, but it's tough to rate Smith first when he hasn't had enough impact
to keep the team's overall defense from being mediocre.
Varejao
First team: Anderson Varejao, Cleveland (-5.34)
Raggedy Andy was my midseason choice for NBA Defensive Player of the Year,
and while I can no longer go quite that far, I remain convinced that he's the
best defensive power forward in the business. No big man in basketball is
better at switching out onto smaller players, and Varejao combines that skill
with toughness in the post and solid work on the boards. In fact, he's one of
the most frustrating opponents in the league for good post players because
he's so active, progressing far beyond the flopping vaudeville act of years
past into a truly elite defensive performer.
防守第一隊: Anderson Varejao (-5.34)，大V曾是我季中時的年度最佳防守球員首選，
雖然現在不這麼認為，但他依然是我心目中的最佳防守大前鋒。沒有任何一個大個子球員
比他切換防守兩種類型對手做得更好了。而他又有強悍的低位防守與良好的搶籃板能力，
事實上，他是最讓聯盟低位進攻球員頭痛的防守球員，從過去的一個假摔球員進步成一個
真正的防守悍將。
Center
中鋒
Center is always the toughest position at which to rank players because an
inordinate number of topflight defensive players man the position. This
season is no exception, as you'll see from our extensive honorable mention
list. Nonetheless, a few players stood out even among this outstanding group,
and we'll detail their exploits below.
中鋒總是以防守為主，因此要選出最佳的也相當困難，然而還是有些人能夠從中脫穎而出
。(沒有騎士球員，不翻了)
Honorable mention: Two players -- Marcus Camby (-5.00) and Brendan Haywood
(-3.26) -- changed teams during the course of the season, making their
on-court versus off-court numbers even less reliable than normal. But both
players have posted sparkling numbers in this category in other seasons, and
in each case their reputations back up the numbers. Each has one weakness
that keeps him out of the top three, though: For Camby it's his unwillingness
to show against a pick-and-roll, and for Haywood it's his tendency to take
nights off.
Kendrick Perkins (-3.28) isn't a great shot-blocker, but he's a mean,
physical SOB who plays incredibly tough post defense. If you're going up
against Dwight Howard, then Perk is the player you want guarding him. A
couple other centers, however, outrank him as help defenders, especially when
it comes to picking up guards on the perimeter.
Chicago's Joakim Noah (+0.86) is one of them; in fact he might be the best
pick-and-roll defender among the league's centers. Plus, he put up much
stronger rebounding numbers this season. His unimpressive on-court versus
off-court numbers seem to be misleading when one considers how badly the team
went in the tank as soon as he was hurt, but his one-on-one post defense
still could use improvement.
Tim Duncan (-4.30) has been a mainstay of previous teams and can still affect
games with his length, timing and smarts. But he doesn't move nearly as well
as he used to and is no longer a game-changer from the weak side.
Finally, Houston's Chuck Hayes (-2.77) might be the best inch-for-inch
defender in basketball. But at 6-6 on a list of 7-footers, he'll need a few
more inches to crack this list.
But the hardest player to leave off my top three wasn't any of those guys --
it was Oklahoma City's Nick Collison (-7.22). You heard that correctly: Nick
Collison. Every metric says Collison was one of the league's most effective
defensive players this season, leading the league in drawing charges despite
coming off the bench and posting a phenomenal on-court versus off-court
differential for the league's seventh-ranked defensive squad. Unfortunately
for Collison, three other players were a bit better.
Bogut
Third team: Andrew Bogut, Milwaukee (-4.47)
Bogut was the unifying force behind the league's fifth-ranked defensive team,
combing his longstanding knack for taking charges with a newfound talent for
blocking shots at the rim. Combined with his toughness in post D and his
control of the boards, he'd been one of the season's underrated stories. He's
become an offensive force too, but his stout defense is the bigger reason
that his unfortunate fall against Phoenix on Saturday was so damaging to the
Bucks' playoff upset hopes.
Wallace
Second team: Ben Wallace, Detroit (-9.35)
Detroit was only 27th in defensive efficiency, but don't blame Big Ben. He
was positively awesome in the first half of the season, bringing back
memories of his dominating days of yore with the Pistons, and the team's
defense immediately went in the tank once he was hurt. Wallace's ridiculous
on-court versus off-court numbers are helped by his weak counterparts in the
Pistons' frontcourt, but observation backs up the numbers in this case: Big
Ben was freakishly good.
防守第二隊: Ben Wallace (-9.35)，底特律在防守效率上排行第27名，不過不能怪大
班，他在上半季表現的超級棒，讓人回想起他過去在活塞的榮耀時刻，但當他受傷後，
團隊防守效率馬上跌入谷底，大班那顯著的場上場下失分差要歸功於其他前場球員的無
能，不過能有這樣的數據還是要說: 大班真是太棒了。
Howard
First team and Defensive POY: Dwight Howard, Orlando (-2.27)
I was down on Howard earlier this season, as I didn't think he was moving
particularly well in the first half of the season. All that's changed since
about Christmas, however, and Howard is back to his dominating ways. So are
the Magic, who rank a close second to Charlotte in defensive efficiency
despite a roster laden mostly with offensive players.
The reason, of course, is Howard, who patrols the middle with his
breathtaking shot-blocking ability, dominates the defensive glass, helps his
guards on the perimeter and nullifies opposing breaks with his speed back
down the court. It would be nice if he'd block a few more shots to his
teammates rather than going for volleyball spikes into the 10th row, but as
long as we're comparing him to current players rather than Bill Russell,
Howard is easily the cream of the crop.
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※ 編輯: chucloud 來自: 192.35.79.70 (04/08 04:05)
推 kenta10:大V真的被很多人低估，但我認為是刻板印象與很少看騎士 04/08 08:45
推 fatponda:也翻一下大班嘛(扭) 04/08 09:46
推 terry1007:推防守悍將 04/08 10:57
推 jinpenchi:大V改變防守策略整個跟上季差很大 很難想像他以前一碰就 04/08 11:33
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推 d88647511:總版一對印象派不意外 推大V的改變 和辛苦翻譯 04/08 12:28
推 erwingravity:越來越喜歡大V，進步很多!! 04/08 16:14
推 fatponda:感謝翻大班再推一個~ 04/09 02:05
推 barley:大V真的被低估很多 04/09 15:38