Fw: [灌水] 小道消息 about Love's trade

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作者: yyjack (小虎) 看板: Timberwolves
標題: [灌水] 小道消息 about Love's trade
時間: Sat Jul 26 04:14:31 2014


有沒有發現在Andrew Wiggins宣布簽約後  原本鋪天蓋地的rumor一夕消失了
加上之前騎士交易Unguaranteeds    要推論一些結果應該不難
但啥結論都還不用下    繼續看戲比較開心XD

以下這個消息  來自灰狼討論區
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一位朋友在Minneapolis體育館   廁所上大號時
聽到一位球團工作人員正在講電話討論交易事項 (人員身分是確定的)
此人便很認真的偷聽並用手機記錄聽到的內容
保密防諜  人人有責阿~~~

第三隊會是"金塊"  且分成兩次交易來完成
內容如下:

Cavs and Wolves are including the Nuggets in a 3-team deal.

Trade will happen in 2 parts. The first part will happen next week.

1st part

CAVS   IN: Mozgov
WOLVES IN: Nate Robinson + 2 non guarantees contracts from Cavs
           (Friend doesn't know which ones)
NUGGETS IN: JJ Barea + Dellavedova + 2nd round pick from Wolves
           (Friend doesn't know which one)


2nd part

CAVS   IN: Kevin Love
WOLVES IN: Bennett + Wiggins + (2) 1st round picks from Cavs
           (Friend doesn't know which ones)


The first part of the deal will happen very shortly. Faried does not play a
part in this deal. The Nuggets are not in the 2nd part of the deal at all.
Just passing this along for I knew when I was told of this conversation by
my friend I would put this up on REALGM ASAP. I find the deal interesting,
although limited in nature.

第一部分交易很快就公佈   Faried沒有被放進認合包裹內
如果下週真的發生  那接下來的第二部分......嘿嘿嘿

One more important note to the conversation that my friend heard was that
when Wiggins signed today it supposedly indicated that the Cavs decided to
go with Mozgov in a 3 team deal instead of picking up a Stiemsma in free agency.
My friend didn't quite understood the comment, and neither do I, but I thought
I would pass it along as well.

另外一個補充, Wiggins的簽約代表Cavs決定拿Mozgov而非簽FA Stiemsma
不完整也沒啥邏輯的一段話  可直接忽略


這份交易看來最不合理的是金塊部分
為什麼要丟好用的Mozgoz換JJB+二輪簽??
感覺騎士的一輪簽應該給他們    灰狼迷都不好意思拿了XD
合理化的說法是JaVale "My Boy" McGee要復出
加上Jusuf Nurkic要在本季加入  不想再養第三個C

再強調  這個消息非常非常小道   沒有任何credibility
比twitter的可信度還低   如同這篇文章的分類<灌水>
預防接下來幾天版太乾~XD

不過這篇討論之後又有專家twitter消息發布  不小心穩合了

Jon Krawczynski @APkrawczynski
After talking w/ Wolves, can say definitively Gorgui Dieng not on the table
in any trade talks. KMartin name hasn't come up yet, either

                             ~to be continued~~
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今天目前唯一新消息   公牛陳清Mirotic沒有被放進包裹
如同之前我某篇推文提出的質疑   Mirotic應該是有拿到不交易承諾才願意簽字的
除非Rubio的靈氣強到可以吸引他來北大荒XD

目前各種傳言在未確定前都是可以質疑的
如同Cavs不願意放AW   T-Wolves不會放Dieng
Bulls不放Moritic也是一樣    我只是就我感覺合理的狀況來分析
沒有Moritic  難道要放Jimmy Butler?!  不然公牛這包差多囉
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Cavs代言人Sam Amico
唯一到現在還堅持Wiggins沒放進包裹的專家
注意他是Ohio當地媒體   如同Wolfson是灰狼人馬

昨天消息
Amico: "I can tell you within the last 24-48 hours, Dan Gilbert and the owner
        of the #Timberwolves talked."

then...今天的消息
Royce Young @EyeOnBasketball
Report: Wolves owner Taylor prefers Cavaliers' Wiggins offer for Love
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以下為美國鄉民列出的防守數據
Love防守不突出是眾人皆知的事實

AB去年上場時間少  樣本少  身材又失控  防守爛不意外
今年照理說會進步

至於Cavs交易超強萬用包TT + DW
防守不好也是之前講過的
所以......TT + DW的進攻可以像Love一樣補回他們的爛防守嗎? XD

Wolves
Kevin Love
PER 26.9
NBA PER Ranking 5th
NBA Defensive Points per Possession Allowed NBA Ranking 108th

Cavs
Tristan Thompson
PER 14.9
NBA PER Ranking 159th
NBA Defensive Points per Possession Allowed NBA Ranking 251st

Dion Waiters
PER 14.0
NBA PER Ranking 190th
NBA Defensive Points per Possession Allowed NBA Ranking 280th

Anthony Bennett
PER 6.9
NBA PER Ranking 425th
NBA Defensive Points per Possession Allowed NBA Ranking 442nd

There were 482 NBA players last season with an average PER of 15.0. Each of
the "established" Cavs players that you will be forced to take because of
leverage had a below average PER and a defensive rating below the median.
IOW they all suck. As will the picks you'll get. This is strictly a deal of
Love for Wiggins' "potential." If I were the Wolves GM, I'd be looking at the
Bulls or any other deal a lot closer than betting the house on a rookie who's
raw and no sure thing.

PER data from Basketball-Reference.com.
Defensive PPP rankings from SynergySports.
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最後  美國討論版那位堅持DW是Wade 2.0  換Love剛剛好的騎士迷還在繼續奮戰
只挑幾個我看過會笑的灰狼迷回應     看過笑笑就好

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You and your cav fans buddies been running your mouths about how Wiggins for
Love is not going to happen. Now you can see it is very reasonable, in fact
cavs must add additional value. Now you are posting some stupid stuff like TT
and Waiters for Gibson is worth entertaining. Also stop with the "we the north"
crap. Minneapolis is much more northern than Toronto, we are the true north.

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Tired of you people offer ridiculously stupid contrarian opinions, then moving
onto less stupid demands and ideas like putting in Dieng as this trade progresses.
Stop, understand how the NBA works, then listen about what the true value is of
these NBA players.

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So many Cavs fans are so unclassy I think I'd rather see Love traded to the
Bulls. Be easier to root for him there with a much better fanbase...

但我比較想看另外一隊崩潰耶~~~~

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推 ronbaw:這......潛力新秀丟光了，這樣好嗎
推 jay616616:個人覺得奐第一階段就好了...MOZGOV來補內線就夠了
→ jay616616:剛剛看了以前的BOX 發現TT的籃板能力不輸LOVE 在加上
→ jay616616:補進那麼多外圍射手 我們真的有必要把有潛力的球員送走
→ jay616616:那麼多嗎? 我實在不覺得炒短線是個很好的方式
推 hump:第一love才26這根本不是炒短線第二TT跟love對球隊的幫助不是
→ hump:同一等級的，如果給力芬真的能換來love又盤來年輕內線，他可
→ hump:以競爭最佳gm了
推 librasky:這消息爆出來要成行機會應該變低不少
推 kurahee:為什麼大家比較贊同TT+DW而不是AB+DW  TT比AB好用不是嗎？
推 koyoer:AB現在完全沒交易價值, TT至少還是雙十潛力股
推 nthubioin:AB畢竟是有潛力的狀元且夏季聯賽他打得不錯
推 jerod:請幫忙把灰狼板的推文修掉
→ nthubioin:不過其實只要不動AW 要換TT還是AB都還OK吧
→ nthubioin:而且感覺這篇可信度偏低 廁所偷聽有點誇張
→ nthubioin:上一篇那個就感覺可靠很多 因為Love一直都有放話 上面那
→ nthubioin:篇很符合這暑假一系列他的一貫風格
※ 編輯: StupidDog (219.85.118.76), 07/26/2014 13:31:09
推 joulin:所以這篇又變成有要丟AW了QQ
推 r44621:有Mozgov可接受度就高多了 可是首輪籤有必要丟到兩隻嗎?
→ r44621:雖然這消息感覺很芭樂wwwwww
推 jinpenchi:這樣騎士單方的虧，不過這也是對方比較想的交易
→ jinpenchi:有人覺得TT+AB也可以交易，這個組合就蠻少的
→ jinpenchi:畢竟是換Love，大V也要移到替補PF也比較耐戰
推 koyoer:我覺得不動到AW 丟誰都可以 選秀權幾個 DW TT AB 都可以
→ jinpenchi:交易海獺 Waiters就要留下來，J.Harris其實也可以丟
→ jinpenchi:這種射手好找，而且MM+Allen就沒他的位子了
→ jinpenchi:其實孟羅也可以交易看看，不過丟DW給他們感覺在資敵....
推 koyoer:DWㄧ定會被丟,畢竟是裡面最值錢的包裹,但灰狼只想要空間
→ koyoer:七六人三方交易如何??
→ shangyen:七六人也要看吧~ 沒好處他們幹麻當第三方
→ shangyen:蠻現實的一個問題  畢竟76人應該下季沒意外還是坦吧
推 koyoer:DW他們有興趣..不過沒必要當好人
推 jinpenchi:Waiters家鄉就在那邊，這樣資敵對以後有威脅......
推 jinpenchi:Waiters找6尺6控球配比較好，只有76人、爵士適合
推 forever23:拿DW去換禁區的柱子
推 NuCat:AW一割則天下人心皆去 朕何以為天下主
推 super1315566:推