作者nogoodlaugh (當顆大蘋果)
看板Celtics
標題[外電] Ainge Asked For Harden First
時間Sun May 15 14:49:52 2011
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作者:Matt Moore
When the Kendrick Perkins trade went through, there was a considerable amount
of flabbergasting about what it was Boston saw in Jeff Green. That’s only
intensified since, especially with the Celtics eliminated in the second round
and Green coughing up a pair of killer turnovers down the stretch in Game 5.
The Celtics have consistently maintained that Green was the guy they want,
and they even plan on giving him a qualifying offer to keep him around. Danny
Ainge thinks Green is a big part of the Celtics’ future.
當KP的交易過後 人們好奇C's管理團隊到底是看上Green哪點?
尤其當Green在第五戰發生了那致命的失誤後
C's繼續維持他們的看法 Green就是他們要的人
甚至打算將Green留下來 安吉認為Green是未來球隊重要的拼圖
But an interesting element came out of ESPN’s Bill Simmons’ podcast with
Boston radio broadcaster Sean Grande this week. As SBNation’s Mike Prada
noted: The Celtics began talks with the Thunder not for Jeff Green, but for
James Harden. You know, the James Harden that has been en fuego since the
trade deadline and has become a legitimate third playmaker for the Thunder
and a nightmare for opponents? That James Harden?
但B.Simmons爆了個有趣的料 在一個訪問中 他提到
C's 一開始想要得 其實是 Harden
那個狀況火熱,成為第三得分點,敵隊夢魘的Harden ?
Getting past how incredible it is that Presti continues to make the right
move no matter what the evidence tells him to (and the evidence would have
told him Harden was an acceptable price for Perkins prior to the trade
deadline), we’ve got an interesting What If question here. How would Harden
have impacted the Celtics?
而雷霆總管真神 硬是不丟Harden 儘管證據顯示用Harden換KP也是值得的交易
但這也讓人好奇 如果當時來C's的是Harden 現在會是甚麼情況?
Well, for one, it would have given them another distributor and playmaker who
could drive, lessening the impact of Rajon Rondo‘s injury. It would have
provided a younger defender to sick on Dwyane Wade who did the most damage.
And it would have given them a versatile building block who could have really
learned behind Ray Allen and Paul Pierce while being the young cornerstone
they need without the inconsistencies and dreaded “tweener” label Jeff
Green comes with. In short, it would have been better all around. It may not
have made the difference in a Celtics win or loss against the Heat, but you
have to think Harden would have given them more than Green, who didn’t seem
to adjust to life in the Celtics’ locker room after years in the warm bosom
of the OKC locker room.
首先 這會讓C's擁有另一個能切入得分的球員 從Rondo傷勢得到的教訓 有了Harden
可以提供一個年輕肉體去盯防那對我們造成極大傷害的Wade 他能成為
雷槍 PP的好替補 而想找重建基石的話 他們也得找個殺手級的雙能衛 而目前看來
比Green好的選擇多的是 雖然不見得Harden來就能扭轉系列賽的結果
但他能做得一定比那還沒適應C's生活及離開OKC溫暖懷抱的Green 還要多更多
Green would still be with the Thunder, likely being criticized as fans called
for Ibaka to get more playing time (one of the best results of the trade for
Perkins, along with moving Ibaka to PF next to Perk), knocking down the
occasional three and getting bowled over by Zach Randolph. For Celtics fans,
this all comes as another twist in a series of knife twists that have spelled
what appears to be their doom, even with Doc coming back. The confidence in
Ainge is unlikely to be boosted by the idea that it could have been Harden,
showcasing his talents against Memphis currently, rather than Green, who the
Celtics would have gotten for the franchise center.
而Green仍然會留在OKC 接受球迷的批評 希望球隊多讓IBAKA上場
(KP交易對雷霆的好處之一,讓IBAKA能扶正打先發)
而Green也只能偶爾砍顆三分 然後在這系列被Z-Bo打爆
而對C's球迷來說 即使Doc續約了 但在沒能得到Harden
得到那位在面對灰熊時展露自己所擁有比Green更好的才華的Harden後
還是很難對安吉產生信心
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推 feelike :這種都是腦補,Green不來BBD上場時間就多了 05/15 14:54
→ feelike :這樣難道會比較好嗎?何況Harden來難道就會適應良好?? 05/15 14:55
→ feelike :何況當初真的是要Harden,還是ESPN裡面自己猜的 05/15 14:56
→ nogoodlaugh :應該是真的有先問 想找2、3號替補 Harden當然是優先 05/15 14:57
→ feelike :Harden也許可以守住Wade,那LBJ哩!!這種馬後炮誰都會 05/15 14:57
→ nogoodlaugh :特地找Green來當四號替補?沒人知道BBD會一直低迷下去 05/15 14:57
→ feelike :Harden能守住LBJ.....我很懷疑,頂多就是雙能衛 05/15 14:58
→ feelike :六呎五吋打SF還是有點吃力吧 05/15 14:58
推 bri :馬後砲 Harden不見得會比較快融入 而補了SG一樣會 05/15 15:02
→ bri :留下SF的洞 反之亦然 05/15 15:03
→ piercepaul :Harden來我可想到的只有他在雷霆也是打替補的,所以 05/15 15:06
→ piercepaul :來這當替補,他應該可以接受這樣的時間 05/15 15:06
→ piercepaul :而且Rondo的傷勢是意外阿...講這個太馬後砲了 05/15 15:09
→ piercepaul :不過如果是要Harden+Thabo,那又是另外一回事了... 05/15 15:10
推 SexyCassell :這是幹嘛........真的是馬後炮............ 05/15 15:17
→ piercepaul :不過看這篇後,我突然覺得能交易到Green應該是安吉料 05/15 15:18
→ piercepaul :想不到的...Green可能算是雷霆自己想丟出去的 05/15 15:19
推 wadekao :其實我對小綠蠻有信心跟愛的,他擁有我們缺乏的運動力 05/15 15:38
→ wadekao :很期待下一季的表現 05/15 15:38
推 fascinated :green沒有不好阿 只是需要再給他一點時間 05/15 15:39
→ fascinated :而且也很會灌 是我們缺乏的激情(灌在頭上彈出來) 05/15 15:40
→ piercepaul :Wafer表示: 05/15 15:41
推 peitinglee :有丹丹的近況嗎? 05/15 15:42
※ 編輯: nogoodlaugh 來自: 59.112.168.119 (05/15 15:48)
推 wadekao :哈哈哈,也很期待Wafer,季中越打越好,只可惜後來受傷 05/15 15:48
→ piercepaul :不,我講到Wafer是指他的灌籃... 05/15 15:52
推 fascinated :因為我灌不到籃 但是球有沒有灌進球員自己不知道的嗎 05/15 15:55
→ fascinated :真的沒辦法理解 wafer真的是一整個狀況外 可惜了 05/15 15:57
推 DGlight :說做的更多有點太超過了 05/15 16:15
推 gapcel :Harden或許會融入得比較快,但小綠更能補足我們的缺憾 05/15 16:16
推 DGlight :小綠要融入的是防守中樞耶 沒那麼簡單 05/15 16:18
推 DGlight :有大大研究過溜馬的保羅喬治嗎 05/15 16:20
推 TT123 :雖然這組陣容只拿一次冠軍...但是Doc常拿來說嘴的事 05/15 16:31
推 RoyHibbert :樓上以為我們會放PG嗎? 05/15 16:31
→ TT123 :實將成永恆.."KP+Rondo+GAP"的先發陣容沒輸過系列賽 05/15 16:32
→ TT123 :對雷霆而言Harden可以扶正SG,而Green本來就多餘 05/15 16:34
→ TT123 :無論怎麼安排,如果下季Green還在的話,希望是先發 05/15 16:35
推 toroleaf :Green 在雷霆的處境有點尷尬 三號有KD 四號會被打點 05/15 17:29
→ toroleaf :沒搶到大鬍子有點可惜 05/15 17:29
推 dreamaker1 :致命的失誤是哪一球 有影片嗎? 05/15 17:56
推 kattte :雷霆交易後也沒打的比交易前較好 拿了KP卻不知如何使 05/15 18:17
→ kattte :用的雷霆 就算被灰熊幹倒 也不意外 05/15 18:18
推 toroleaf :如果現在小綠還在雷霆 球隊得分可能高一些 05/15 20:08
→ toroleaf :不過灰熊禁區得分會更高XD 05/15 20:08
推 unmeinohito :哈電又不會比較好... 05/15 23:24
推 rainingdayz :馬後炮 有多少人能在這麼短時間融入? 05/15 23:49
→ shdai :本年度C's最失敗交易 05/16 02:58
推 toroleaf :可惜應該是沒兩隻換到吧,安吉如果有手腕一點的話 05/16 08:47
推 teru68 :Perkins晉級西區冠軍了!!!!! 05/16 08:50
→ teru68 :打太快.....晉級西區冠軍賽.... 05/16 08:51
推 truth76901 :雖然Harden持球切入跟進攻意識較好,但我比較愛小綠 05/16 09:12
→ piercepaul :個人覺得小綠這種球員比較難找 05/16 09:17
推 hardawaykai :樓上下一季會成為最佳第六人嗎? XDDD 05/16 09:33
→ piercepaul :請大家支持Pierce下季拿下最佳第六人 05/16 10:05
推 idlypanda :Thibo贏囉~ 05/16 10:29
推 hope452162 :我對Green不是很看好…應該說河流真的給Green信任嗎? 05/16 11:34
推 rainingdayz :PP大不錯喔XDDDDDDDD 公園系最佳第六人 可以想像! 05/16 17:03
推 ej04cj86 :我到覺得green真的還不錯用 肯防守會三分會背框 05/16 18:03
→ ej04cj86 :給他時間平均得分15以上應該不是問題 重點是給不給 05/16 18:04
推 hope452162 :Pierce下季拿最佳第六人有點難,河流對Green愛還不夠 05/16 18:14
推 rainingdayz :gosh 冰河 休賽期間多練一下吧 05/16 18:29
→ noahlin :如果以冠軍隊為目標的話 Green連當第二人都很難啊... 05/16 20:39