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新聞出處(必填): http://redsarmy.com/home/ 作者: Posted by BigMck On the possibility of coming off the bench next season: "To me, however I can help the team, it'll figure itself out. One thing in regards to Jeff [Green] is, whatever I can do to make him better and to push him and play the best that he can. It's weird that guys have always looked at it like coming off the bench is such a bad thing. I know we went through the situation with [Allen] Iverson, he didn't want to come off the bench. But, you've always worried more about who finished games, but more importantly, when you're on a winning team, winning the game is the ultimate objective, so that's my primary concern. I want to win. I looked at our record this year. It was sad that we didn't get to 60 wins, and we should have had 60 wins, based on the games we lost, and that would have gave us home-court advantage throughout the whole playoffs, East and West." ESPN Boston I expected nothing less from Ray Allen. He's the ultimate team guy who "get's it." As for whether Doc Rivers should employ Ray as a 6th man, that's impossible to say until the roster is complete. And you have to love Ray's fire. He's jealous of the Bruins: "As much as I was happy for them, there was a bit of anger that I had," Allen admitted Thursday while unveiling a new computer lab at the Sarah Greenwood School in Dorchester. "I would pretty much imagine that, if you didn't feel that way as an athlete, [if] one of the guys on your team didn't feel that way, [it'd be surprising] because you know that that's something we always shoot for, reaching that height. I'm extremely proud of [the Bruins] for what they've done for the city of Boston. 一句話:Ray對自己轉往第六人從板凳出發的可能性做好了準備~ 不過我還是覺得PP從板凳出發比較合適...Ray從板凳出發的話...誰扛先發SG??? PP從板凳出發的話他也可以帶板凳...雖然Ray帶的時間更多... 還是我們們也要像小牛,公牛一樣,先發是假性防守為主,偶爾放冷箭的SG (Stevenson/Bogan) 然後讓Ray跟著板凳一起上呢~實在很好奇如果這樣計畫的話先發到底是誰打? -- ████◣ ◢███◣ ◣ ◣ ╮ ╭█◣█◣╲╲ ██ ◥█═╯██ ◥█ █ █ ╰═════╯ Π ██◣ █ ██ █ █ █ ◢█◣ ◣█◣ ║████◤ █████ █ █ █▄◤ █▌█ █◤██◥█◣ ██ █ █ █ ◥█◤ ◥▌◤ █ █ 20 █◤◥█══◥█══◤ ◥ ◥ ══BOSKG5MVP ███◤/∕ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 118.160.20.187
gtwings :所以是Pierce改打得分後衛(誤) 06/17 20:56
nisiya0625 :PP真的比較適合 1-4號都能扛 Ray 1-3號吧ˇˇ 06/17 21:03
gaiaesque :=.= 06/17 21:05
nisiya0625 :只是以Ray的年紀 還有他這兩季長帶替補 不意外=.= 06/17 21:05
criminal :可是我反而覺得這樣好像也不錯耶,小綠3號、PP 2號 06/17 21:17
criminal :啊,這樣好像也不太好... 06/17 21:22
kattte :先發可能變成west吧..可是我覺得west能力跟體力下滑 06/17 21:33
kattte :的ray差不多而已.. 06/17 21:33
tonysd :Ray板凳出發期待像小牛板凳暴徒J. Terry最佳第六人 06/17 22:01
EMPERORHEN :老皮比較適合 +1 06/17 22:16
EMPERORHEN :但以在BOSTON的地位來說似乎又不太可能讓PP當第六人 06/17 22:17
hauur :Ray為勝利著想,揪甘心~退休之後留下來當制服組吧! 06/17 22:30
gapcel :這是我的理想解答XD 06/17 22:33
gapcel :老雷的年紀大PP兩歲...PP在先發會更合適!!(功能部分 06/17 22:37
idlypanda :Ray體力能勝任 PP較適合 06/17 22:40
auron4041 :真的沒甚麼牌可以打了... 06/17 22:42
gaiaesque :以doc的習慣..雷槍如果打第六人..他時間也不會少很多 06/17 22:46
gaiaesque :doc一定是讓他控球帶領替補... 06/17 22:46
ihx00 :但是如果West拉上去...感覺這樣Ray也不會比較輕鬆... 06/17 22:54
ihx00 :替補Rondo的人又沒了... 06/17 22:54
nisiya0625 :所以 SG或SF一定要再補個適用的在決定了? 06/17 22:55
PureTrue :老皮不要是BBD遞補就好了拜託 06/17 23:04
ihx00 :回nisiya大:如果Ray要替補那先發...我們隊應該目前 06/17 23:10
ihx00 :沒人...難不成是AB!?(誤) 06/17 23:11
JerryChanel :Ray在場上常可以吸住兩名防守者,打板凳有點可惜... 06/17 23:22
JerryChanel :找一隻有力的內線比較實在,整個C's問題都得解。 06/17 23:24
JerryChanel :同樣吸引包夾,Ray能清出更大的空間 (三分線) 06/17 23:25
ihx00 :其實說真的Ray跟PP誰打板凳我看大家都覺得可惜 06/17 23:27
ihx00 :但是除非我們能充實替補戰力...當然禁區也得解... 06/17 23:27
JerryChanel :True 06/17 23:27
JerryChanel :我是覺得禁區首要,否則KG要做的事真的太多了。 06/17 23:28
rainingdayz :PP比較適合+1 可是無法想像在主場PP不是先發的樣子 06/17 23:28
rainingdayz :RA:反正我本來上場時間就很長 本來就會咖到板凳時間 06/17 23:29
JerryChanel :多點Inside out C's的動線會更順暢,三老也更省力。 06/17 23:30
JerryChanel :進攻上也不用過於仰賴跑到累死的走位和Rondo的切傳。 06/17 23:31
JerryChanel :所以一隻有力的內線來,大家都得解XD 06/17 23:32
JerryChanel :否則這季KG不在場上,進攻防守常停擺的狀況只會持續 06/17 23:33
JerryChanel :回到標題,我只想說 Ray是個百年難得的好球員, 06/17 23:34
JerryChanel :球技與心態皆達巔峰的球員。 06/17 23:35
ihx00 :同意...但說道好禁區,就想到我們的134季都用光了... 06/18 00:00
ihx00 :檯面上的人...要不是有防守布卡位要不是沒進攻能力 06/18 00:00
ihx00 :不會傳球策應...三巨頭還是得多花點心思啊... 06/18 00:00
guitarspirit:沒必要對Ray轉第六人感覺怎麼樣啦 06/18 00:15
guitarspirit:想想以前馬刺的Manu不也是最佳第六人 06/18 00:15
guitarspirit:那時候芬里熱機慢 換成我們的話 改成讓小綠熱機 06/18 00:17
samuel01 :其實我覺得誰轉替補都沒太大幫助....補人補得好要緊! 06/18 00:17
TT123 :假設Ainge沒打算交易Green的話,讓Ray替補是最佳解了 06/18 00:17
guitarspirit:也不差啊 06/18 00:17
samuel01 :Ray不要下bench啊!!!!!!! 06/18 00:17
TT123 :打先發能讓Green更加融入(跟著Rondo、PP、KG) 06/18 00:19
TT123 :他的定位也會比較清楚...至少心態上 06/18 00:20
TT123 :而且其實在組GAP之前,C's就一直想找個大號SF擺在PP 06/18 00:21
TT123 :旁邊,雖然PP是老了.但Green的確算是有身材優勢的SF 06/18 00:22
TT123 :Doc的調度也能更靈活... 06/18 00:24
wws :以陣形來說個人覺得SG擺Ray比PP適合,畢竟很多戰術 06/18 00:25
wws :由Ray發起,PP能把這個以SG為起手式的戰術詮釋到什麼 06/18 00:26
ihx00 :這也繼受大家覺得PP打替補可能更適合的原因 06/18 00:27
wws :樣的境界很難說,但要把PP擺板凳,球迷會暴動吧XD 06/18 00:27
ihx00 :除非有堪用SG,雖然讓PP打SG有優勢...但似乎也不是長 06/18 00:28
ihx00 :久之計...當然啦對上Kobe之類的是ok,但要是太小隻 06/18 00:28
ihx00 :也是有點擔心... 06/18 00:28
TT123 :如果說要問這支球隊誰最會以"大"吃小...那一定是PP 06/18 00:30
wws :不過我也同意Jerry大所說,仰賴Ray無球跑動的戰術 06/18 00:30
TT123 :讓Pierce打SG反而會讓他比較輕鬆點 06/18 00:31
wws :在球員老化的狀況下會越來越施展不開,似乎也到了 06/18 00:32
wws :調整的時候了... 06/18 00:32
TT123 :到是Green能不能頂住SF的位置才問題.以他那PF的技術 06/18 00:32
ihx00 :其實一開始就有可能讓PP打替補的消息了,大家應該 06/18 00:34
TT123 :理想狀態是Green要操到40分鐘,能吃光SF的時間再頂 06/18 00:34
ihx00 :不會太意外才是~至少我們隊上老將們不會去計較這些 06/18 00:34
ihx00 :球迷看了也不用擔心那些有的沒的~ 06/18 00:35
TT123 :一些PF才行 06/18 00:35
TT123 :目前的陣容是沒本錢把PP移出先發的...根本沒進攻了 06/18 00:37
rainingdayz :小綠打PF還不太放心= = 我是指防守 06/18 00:37
TT123 :除非Rondo一個暑假學會神準的急停跳投... 06/18 00:38
rainingdayz :呃...我可以只求他罰球準嗎?? 中距離不敢奢望 06/18 00:40
TT123 :往好的方面想,就是要最大限度使用年輕球員,節省老 06/18 00:41
TT123 :球員們的時間... 06/18 00:41
ihx00 :Green其實這些都有,但他好像就是跟他自己講的一樣 06/18 00:42
ihx00 :他認為自己應該更積極更具侵略性,他有時候的確 06/18 00:42
ihx00 :太客氣了... 06/18 00:42
TT123 :其實Rondo投籃有很明顯的進步了...只現在還不夠穩定 06/18 00:43
TT123 :期待他下季把中距離當武器是可能的... 06/18 00:43
rainingdayz :其實sg 我相信west可以頂下一些時間 06/18 00:44
rainingdayz :這季莫名其妙的傷太多了 我不相信以後會這麼衰 06/18 00:44
TT123 :季末Rondo就相當主動在投中距離... 06/18 00:45
rainingdayz :拉抬命中率吧XD 至少現再放很大空檔他比較不猶豫了 06/18 00:45
samuel01 :其實我只是單純的不想到開場介紹時Ray或PP在場下= = 06/18 02:40
lalascott :PP的身材可以吃爆聯盟大部分SG吧 06/18 12:26
MK47 :推Ray成熟的態度 很多球星說多想贏多想贏 結果要他們 06/18 12:39
MK47 :付出一點 改變球風或打替補馬上就該該叫 跟Ray差多了 06/18 12:40
keanu2110 : 如果是這樣那這個夏天Ray和替補的空檔跑位要練起來 06/18 13:05
keanu2110 :如果只是像這季讓他僅僅是幫替補組織進攻就太浪費啦 06/18 13:06
TT123 :他應該還是會有很多時間跟Rondo一起上... 06/18 14:20
YMOLE :禁區禁區還是禁區阿!強悍的禁區才是常勝的王道 06/18 16:58
Janius :我覺得他還是會上30分鐘左右,畢竟還是太好用了... 06/18 18:12
hamutaro0225:Ray真的是揪甘心,隊伍有他氣氛怎麼可能不好啊。 06/18 18:40
nisiya0625 :當替補也好 離助理教練之路又近了! XD 06/18 18:49
kattte :RAY以後直接轉任教職吧 XD 06/18 18:55
flymang :RAY總是那個被迫改變的人.... 06/18 20:25
flymang :但不管什麼改變..都做得有板有眼 06/18 20:26
gapcel :Ray無球跑動的戰術實在做得太好啦~但退休後呢? 06/19 12:35
gapcel :感覺這位置沒人可頂耶...PP頂二號讓接班標準降低些 06/19 12:36
Kreen :我還蠻佩服 Ray 的心態。 06/20 00:11