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標題Fw: [外絮] 受傷的不只是雷槍
時間Wed May 2 19:29:07 2012
※ [本文轉錄自 NBA 看板 #1FeAO8Ji ] 作者: delete4067 (CaptainCharisma) 看板: NBA 標題: [外絮] 受傷的不只是雷槍 時間: Wed May 2 11:12:04 2012 譯者註：本篇時間點在G2之前，出門前臨時亂歡的，有錯也歡迎指正 原文： http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/7874196/2012-nba-playoffs-rajon-rondo-makes-bad-situation-worse 縮：http://tinyurl.com/c39so8z Allen not the only one hurting 受傷的不只是雷槍 Rondo's suspension is hardly a death sentence for the Celtics, but it leaves a paper-thin roster even more vulnerable. Avery Bradley has been a revelation, a wonderful story -- as long as you don't ask him to play full time at the point. Now, because of Rondo's temper, the Celtics will have to ask him to do just that. You can be sure Atlanta's young backcourt will be pressuring him full court, which is why Pierce is already brushing off his point forward skills. 阿豆被禁賽幾乎宣判老賽死刑，讓他們輪替陣容更加單薄 AB很棒，但PG無理 現在因為阿豆脾氣差，可能要叫AB硬上了 老鷹後場一定會對他施加壓迫，PP又得要開始打控球前鋒 [+] EnlargeKevin Garnett AP Photo/David GoldmanKevin Garnett has been dealing with painful hip flexors all season long. KG其實整季都在為他的髖屈肌(Hip Flexors)疼痛所苦 譯者註：簡單來說就是骨盆旁邊兩條肌肉，因為膝傷的關係 會影響到其他肌肉用力不正確，因此這邊會受到影響 Before the playoffs started, Rivers confessed: "My only concern is we have no margin for error. Everyone has to play. Ray [Allen] has to play. [Greg] Stiemsma has to play. We don't have a cushion. In past years, if Big Baby didn't play well, Leon Powe could step in. If Sam Cassell couldn't get it done, Eddie House played. We don't have that luxury this year." 早在季後賽開打前，河流就承認了： 「我只知道我們沒有辦法再保留什麼了，大家都必須上，雷槍也得打， 司馬也要打，我們現在人手不足。以前黑寶不能上，李阿砲也能頂。 外星人搞不定，換房子來；我們今年沒那麼爽了。」 譯註：這根本08年啊，河流大大 So now they will likely go into Game 2 with their best pure shooter in a snappy suit-and-tie ensemble and the NBA assist leader sulking next to him. Boston's abysmal first quarter has led to the inevitable second-guessing on whether Rivers should have "rested" his key players down the stretch. 所以G2老賽得在沒有最佳射手和聯盟助攻王的情況下作戰 G1第一節他們挖了超大洞給自己跳，引起大家猜想河流會不會讓雷槍出賽 Let's get real here. Rivers didn't "rest" Allen. There's a realistic chance he may have played his last game in a Celtics uniform. For those of you who haven't experienced bone spurs, they feel like someone is stabbing you with a knife. Repeatedly. With vicious, pointed strokes. Oh, and the knife has been resting in a white hot flame. 事實上河流不是不放雷槍上，畢竟這可能是雷槍在老塞最後幾場球了 如果你跟雷槍一樣有過骨刺，就知道有多難受，就像(以下描述痛覺)一樣 Doc didn't "rest" Garnett, either. KG is hurt. He hasn't been 100 percent, truthfully, since he underwent knee surgery in May of 2009. 河流還是讓KG上場，KG從09年爆炸以後就一直不是最佳狀態 "He's never been the same," Doc conceded. "The last two years have been very difficult for him." 河流也知道KG回不去了，過去兩年對他來說一直很艱辛 Garnett has come to accept the intermittent flaring of knee pain that has become part of his everyday NBA life. Yet it's the recurring pain in his hip flexors (a result of his slim frame and unusual gait) that cripples him when it flares up. KG也承認他的膝蓋一直有疼痛的問題，痛到成為他籃球生涯一部份 這跟前面的髖屈肌有關，對他造成非常大的影響 "The hip flexors are painful as hell," Rivers confirmed. "You see him rubbing it once in a while because it feels like it's on fire." 河流也說「髖屈肌痛起來真是超級無敵痛到靠北，他只揉了一下， 那裡卻像有火燒起來了一樣」 The prolonged lockout actually aided Garnett in that it provided him with a long stretch of rest. He's submitted an impactful season, particularly once Rivers moved him to the 5 spot, but the grind of the compacted schedule finally caught up to him. After the Celtics played 10 games in 13 days, Rivers noticed KG laboring in the April 18 game against Orlando. 封館讓KG得到比較完整的休息，讓他有個不錯的球季 部份原因是河流讓他打中鋒(譯註：不然KG喜歡亂跑的習慣改不掉) 但是壓縮的賽程很靠北，在13日10戰後對上魔術的比賽 河流發現KG有點頂不住的感覺 "It concerned me," Rivers admitted. "I hadn't seen that in a while. After that I said, 'That's it. He's done.'" 河流說：「我已經好一陣子沒看到這種現象(發現KG撐不住了)」 KG的傷勢太重了，他撐不住了 That's why Garnett didn't suit up for that critical game in Atlanta in the final week that might have helped secure home-court advantage. KG was hurting so much last Tuesday he asked out of the Miami game, a rarity for the proud veteran who likes to play them all. 所以對老鷹影響主場優勢的關鍵一戰，KG卻只能穿西裝養生 對上平常最愛打的火火時，KG主動說他要休息 "I just admire the guy so much," Bradley said. "People have no idea what he goes through to play." AB說：「我只能說我實在太尊敬KG了，大家都不知道他是頂著怎麼樣的傷在打球」 I asked Garnett about his hip flexors just before he left for Atlanta. He shrugged and said, "Pain is only what you tell yourself it is." When I shot him a disbelieving glance, he laughed, then added, "Sometimes that works, sometimes it doesn't." 本文作者在對老鷹前問了KG關於髖屈肌的傷勢的事 KG聳聳肩說：「會痛是心理作用啦」 本文作者青了他一眼：「賣嘴砲」 KG笑了一下說：「時好時壞啦」 "I've endured it," KG said. "I deal with it. I prefer not to bitch or complain about it. Some days, it's a lot. But I'm managing. I'm ready to go, man." KG表示：「我一直在忍耐，一直在對抗(疼痛)。我超討厭抱怨， 但有時候真的很哭爸。但是我會搞定他，我OK的」 Will his teammates join him? There will be pressure for Sugar Ray to give it a go Tuesday night. Even when he doesn't score, he is invaluable for the spacing and depth he provides. His best work this season has often been when he's serving as a decoy, curling off those screens with expert precision. When he does that, Atlanta has no choice but to account for him, which opens up the floor for everyone else. 雷槍會不會也帶傷上陣呢? 有各種壓力可能使雷槍帶傷G2上陣 就算他投不進，他穿過人牆的跑動也會吸引到防守者注意 進而帶來更多空檔給隊友 But if Allen doesn't go, he should not be scrutinized. Ask Larry Bird about giving it a shot with bones spurs. He gamely played six games of the 1988-89 season before he succumbed to the pain and had surgery to remove the spurs from both heels. 如果雷槍確定不上的話，他就需要針對骨刺完整的進行檢查 問老前輩鳥叔就知道，骨刺不動刀解決就會讓你痛到死 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 118.166.0.9
推 GianniC :雷槍不上 老塞是很麻煩 但是Josh萬一不上 05/02 11:14
推 iamaq18c :一點都不養生的老賽T____T 05/02 11:14
推 shyshy :重建吧 05/02 11:14
推 kblover :真感人.... 05/02 11:14
→ GianniC :那對老鷹是災難... 05/02 11:14
推 ckshchen :史上最多空缺的季後賽? 05/02 11:15
推 ALspeed :難過~ 05/02 11:15
推 Taicartes :其實KG下半季打得真的滿不錯的，看不出傷痕累累... 05/02 11:15
推 nisiya0625 :老皮應該也是有點傷.... 05/02 11:15
推 uuyayafish :快要可以看到3打3的世界最高籃球殿堂決戰了 05/02 11:16
推 SexyCassell :RAY在季賽後結束之前不會手術 05/02 11:16
推 lunsun :主要還是打C的關係吧 走動比較少 05/02 11:16
推 Jigokuhen :那河流這季還狂操KG 死不練內線的菜鳥 05/02 11:16
推 magicchen :好教練就不該讓球員帶傷上陣 這些選手還有多少生命 05/02 11:16
推 ddt73930 :養生的目的就是為了季後賽能讓老將多撐場面 05/02 11:16
推 auron4041 :如果有球員養生就好了啊...有嗎? 05/02 11:17
→ magicchen :妳可以說河流是為了重返榮耀 或是為了不辜負球迷期望 05/02 11:17
→ auron4041 :小歐膝蓋掛了 Wilcox心臟掛了 Green心臟掛了 05/02 11:17
推 GianniC :大家都知道養生好 但是有幾個球隊能夠兼顧戰績?? 05/02 11:17
推 yuenwwjd :安西:櫻木 我太想看你越打越好的樣子了 05/02 11:18
→ auron4041 :大白膝蓋有傷 05/02 11:18
→ GianniC :說得容易 做起來很難... 05/02 11:18
→ magicchen :但他這種帶兵方式只會毀了更多好球員 不是只有現在 05/02 11:18
→ auron4041 :內線只有Bass 跟新秀JJJ還是完好的 怎麼養生? 05/02 11:18
→ shadow0326 :結果還是靠PP無雙 05/02 11:18
→ piercepaul :像馬刺那樣養生? 馬刺陣中大多數球員至少都待第二年 05/02 11:18
推 nisiya0625 :打NBA的本身就是養不了身了阿 每場比賽都會碰撞 05/02 11:19
→ auron4041 :受詛咒的球隊應該換人一下 改成老賽了 05/02 11:19
→ piercepaul :了，C's今年剛加入的球員有幾位大家知道嗎? 今年縮水 05/02 11:19
→ magicchen :河流為了"善用"三巨頭最後一年 讓他們不斷帶傷上陣 05/02 11:19
推 tassadar1 :養生養到戰績第一, POPO不是白拿最佳教練的 05/02 11:19
→ piercepaul :賽季沒時間練球大家知道嗎? C's非外力因素受傷球員有 05/02 11:19
→ auron4041 :今年可能是GAP最後一年 也是最痛苦的一年啦 05/02 11:19
→ piercepaul :幾位大家知道嗎? 05/02 11:20
→ nisiya0625 :這季例行賽 老賽本身就很艱難的渡過了 05/02 11:20
→ magicchen :這麼說好了 老賽今年會奪冠有多少 05/02 11:21
→ nisiya0625 :還好有養出小AB跟大白 -.- 這才是河流要做的功課 05/02 11:22
推 suckmanisme :真男人！！ 05/02 11:22
→ magicchen :老賽三巨頭榮耀夠多了 我只希望他們能健康多打幾年 05/02 11:22
推 pounil :KG 真男人!!!!!!!!!!! 05/02 11:22
→ ddt73930 :你說的這個豁然倫~ 05/02 11:22
→ bredka :還是給老鷹晉級吧 老賽多休息 05/02 11:22
→ SexyCassell :榮耀沒在嫌多的 05/02 11:23
→ SexyCassell :PP都說明年他要退休了 KH死不說他明年還要打 05/02 11:24
→ SexyCassell : KG 05/02 11:24
推 magicchen :SexyCassell回我問題吧 你真認為老賽今年可以奪冠？ 05/02 11:24
→ david760615 :淚推老人 其實冰河有調整kg時間了 現在都打5分休5分 05/02 11:24
→ nisiya0625 :為什麼要回你問題= =? 05/02 11:24
推 beergap :練板凳哪有這麼容易,就真的沒人了 05/02 11:24
→ magicchen :OK 如果你說他們都打算退休 那就算打我臉 繼續操吧 05/02 11:25
推 rainingdayz :淚推 老兵不死!!! 05/02 11:25
推 aspired :真男人! 05/02 11:26
→ piercepaul :就算不能奪冠 他們也會在場上打到死 05/02 11:26
→ piercepaul :他們寧願戰死 也不願放棄 05/02 11:26
推 PureTrue :KG 真 男 人!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 05/02 11:27
→ bredka :要是場上打到死 NBA就封館了 05/02 11:27
推 FJU999 :那什麼無聊問題 去年季後賽剛開打 有人認為小牛奪冠? 05/02 11:28
推 beergap :KG那段真是屌到不行 05/02 11:28
推 pounil :這些老兵都是打死不退 力戰到底的 05/02 11:28
→ nisiya0625 :還有人在乎皮丘這季有算滿嚴重的腦震盪過嗎= =? 05/02 11:28
→ piercepaul :看完這篇才得以確定這幾年來的疑慮 KG的傷果然是秘密 05/02 11:29
推 rainingdayz :這種問題不知道三老頭聽到作何感想= = 05/02 11:29
→ beergap :其實傷威考斯 格林 加上無用小歐 雷槍 真的滿慘的 05/02 11:29
推 shezion :透漏了有傷的狀況會影響接下來談價碼空間 05/02 11:29
→ nisiya0625 :丹丹也是經過上季腦震盪 這季其實都在打復健賽 05/02 11:30
→ pounil :實際上奪冠是一回事 有沒有信心意志奪冠更是一回事 05/02 11:30
→ david760615 :magic哥是激動戰士嗎？ 合體的最後一年認真打有錯？ 05/02 11:30
推 sniper2824 :推 05/02 11:30
→ pounil :開季初 你跟他們說 你們奪冠機率低 乾脆養生好了 05/02 11:31
→ pounil :是這樣嗎？ 05/02 11:31
→ beergap :小歐的2年1200萬真是錢坑... 05/02 11:31
推 Drak :kg還是退休吧 光景不再 05/02 11:31
→ pounil :他們可能會更不服氣喔 05/02 11:32
推 magicchen :這篇不就很多球迷很支持河流作法阿 你可以問問他們 05/02 11:32
推 FJU999 :認為如果不能奪冠就不打 NBA大概2/3的球隊都可以解散 05/02 11:32
河流說過，即使讓KG休息，他也會跑去自我訓練，再把自己搞的和打滿48分一樣累 我想這或許說明了什麼lol ※ 編輯: delete4067 來自: 118.166.0.9 (05/02 11:34)
噓 a60403 :髒男人 爽啦 05/02 11:34
推 auron4041 :不是支不支持的問題 而是能不能的問題 05/02 11:35
→ auron4041 :3個報銷 3個腿帶傷 1個腳受傷 1個腦症盪 05/02 11:36
→ auron4041 :你還能抽出多少人來用? 05/02 11:36
→ auron4041 :如果不認為能拼總冠軍 那今年乾脆就不要進季後賽了 05/02 11:37
推 kraziyo :第一句hardly意思是還稱不上是死刑 所以也才會用but 05/02 11:39
推 Airsonata20 :樓上什麼毛病 05/02 11:39
→ Airsonata20 :誤推我是說 a60403= = 05/02 11:39
→ pounil :今年不打 下季老了一歲 又可能拆夥 對他們來說也沒 05/02 11:39
→ pounil :太大意義吧 05/02 11:40
推 yuenwwjd :根本來亂的XDDD 05/02 11:42
推 jghs121 :KG! 05/02 11:43
推 magicchen :pounil你說對 河流也一定知道 所以拼死也要老賽打完 05/02 11:46
→ magicchen :所以我一開始就說了 河流只是"善用"三巨頭最後一年 05/02 11:47
→ magicchen :那麼我們一開始討論那些帶傷上陣 練兵磨合問題有差嘛 05/02 11:47
推 TimouVeryQ :沒有拿到冠軍的能力又怎樣 05/02 11:48
→ TimouVeryQ :在NBA不就是為了拿冠軍而努力嗎 05/02 11:49
→ TimouVeryQ :只有努力才能有機會阿 幹 05/02 11:49
→ ClutchShot :老將阿...要完全無病無痛太難了 希望安吉爭氣點找個 05/02 11:55
→ ClutchShot :大咖來 讓GAP不用再承擔這麼吃重的角色 05/02 11:56
→ lmf770410 :KG真男人 05/02 12:00
噓 kid78423 :KG 髒 05/02 12:01
噓 iecdalu :有人在幻想什麼練兵??? 05/02 12:01
推 iecdalu :補推 05/02 12:04
→ evilraistlin:BOS今年真的是放眼都是傷兵...反觀馬刺真是最佳狀態 05/02 12:07
推 parkerlived :推超賽~ 05/02 12:23
推 nogoodlaugh :借轉 05/02 12:37
※ nogoodlaugh:轉錄至看板 KevinGarnett 05/02 12:37
推 psychoF :推偶像 05/02 12:40
推 danny87123 :我只剩下現在了!!!!!!! 05/02 12:42
推 pailoun :太對了 05/02 13:02
推 kshs930709 :就算髒還是真男人 推KG 05/02 13:21
推 leo255112 :KG.....QQ 原來身上有傷也可以這麼強 05/02 13:31
推 ndk23581 :敬業滿點 聯盟可以做到這樣的大概不出那幾個了 05/02 13:49
推 francis1n :推KG! 05/02 13:56
推 chienen :推KG 05/02 13:57
推 XxWeixX :真男人 05/02 14:50
推 GianniC :真髒的男人... 05/02 17:07
推 klklklkl :樓上娘砲無誤。是LP被KG拐過嗎？給你惜惜喔~~~ 05/02 17:55
推 bri :借轉回隊版 謝謝 05/02 19:28
※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ※ 轉錄者: bri (61.231.24.28), 時間: 05/02/2012 19:29:07
→ bri :竟然沒人轉回來XD 本來想翻的哈哈 05/02 19:29
推 newandnew :在這報導之前?有誰知道KG傷勢!這就是我為什麼喜歡 05/02 19:40
→ newandnew :他的原因 05/02 19:40
推 zihao0422 :淚推KG 拼勁 不抱怨 讚啦！ 05/02 19:48
→ zihao0422 :08年真的能用的人好多 現在就一堆傷兵 ˊˋ 05/02 19:49
→ piercepaul :這樣看來 KG這季打算可能就要退休了... 05/02 19:57
推 zihao0422 :樓上今天好神！隊長在去勸說一下 我還要3巨頭~~~~啦 05/02 20:03
推 auron4041 :真的三個都退了 其實也不壞... 05/02 20:10
→ hh440977 :No...我球衣還沒買齊.... 05/02 20:10
→ auron4041 :不然就拜託他們全留下來一起拼啊! 05/02 20:10
→ auron4041 :退休球衣啊 退休球衣! 05/02 20:10
推 SexyCassell :可以可以可以可以可以可以可以可以可以可以可以可以 05/02 20:11
→ SexyCassell :可以可以可以可以可以可以可以可以可以可以可以可以 05/02 20:11
→ piercepaul :而且這讓去年交易Perk換Green更顯合理...我們禁區需 05/02 20:16
推 zihao0422 :不過說真的，我寧願看他們退休也不想看他們轉隊.... 05/02 20:16
→ piercepaul :要活動力，不能再一直讓KG這樣全地圖防守 05/02 20:16
→ piercepaul :歐尼爾兄弟移動範圍就不大了 再加上Perk 05/02 20:18
推 auron4041 :大家覺得KG和Ray明年的約會多貴啊... 05/02 20:18
推 garnett1024 :KG!!! 05/02 20:21
推 feelike :我想KG跟Ray的約大小，有部分取決於我們暑假補強程度 05/02 20:38
→ feelike :如果很理想的話，我相信這兩老應該願意低薪再拚一下 05/02 20:39
→ feelike :Ray的傷勢狀況，會讓他在自由市場變得沒那麼搶手 05/02 20:40
推 gaiaesque :各領5Mok嗎? 05/02 20:41
→ feelike :KG跟Ray留下的話，應該要有心理準備轉換成板凳出發 05/02 20:41
→ feelike :我想就Ray自己的言論，如果開2+1年10~12M，會比1年5M 05/02 20:42
→ feelike :更讓他想留下來，Ray應該不想要年數過短的約 05/02 20:44
推 mikazeray :天啊...真是令人想哭泣 05/02 20:51
推 PikaRen :重點應該不在合約年數 而是Ainge一直有想動Ray的傳聞 05/02 20:55
→ PikaRen :不知道Ainge能否許Ray一個附帶no-trade clause的合約 05/02 20:57
推 idlypanda :還以為KG是少數本季算健康的..原來這麼痛 05/02 20:59
推 gaiaesque :雷槍下一季都快38了..ainge有良心的話就讓雷槍留下吧 05/02 21:06
→ gaiaesque :就像grant hill想在太陽退休一樣..我也想看GAP在C's 05/02 21:06
→ gaiaesque :退休 05/02 21:07
噓 dioib :感覺河流要負很大的責任... 05/02 21:15
推 feelike :如果Ray願意簽約總額低一點，給他個霸王條款不過分 05/02 21:16
→ feelike :Ray之前外電就意思表示出，他不接受一年的合約呀 05/02 21:16
推 criminal :dioib大是什麼意思 05/02 21:16
推 delete4067 :居然被Bri大說謝謝了! 真是光榮XD 05/02 21:23
推 rainingdayz :原po XDDDDDD 05/02 21:26
推 gaiaesque :dioib可能認為doc操太大吧.. 05/02 21:27
推 dioib :因為河流這幾年太少用新人 把老人都操壞了 看看馬刺 05/02 21:28
→ dioib :是怎麼養生的吧!! 05/02 21:28
推 tseng40 :可是今年KG上場時間已經算保護得很好了吧? 05/02 21:29
→ dioib :跟去年比起來 少0.2分鐘　這叫保護的好嗎？　比比看 05/02 21:31
推 gaiaesque :可是ray.... 05/02 21:31
→ dioib :TD 他已經連兩季平均上場時間不到30分鐘了 而且TD球 05/02 21:32
→ dioib :齡還比KG短勒 雷槍就更不用說了 簡直當20歲的在用 05/02 21:33
推 gaga19900329:不過馬刺跟我們比起來算人力充足阿 05/02 21:43
→ gaga19900329:KG跟Ray 應該不是金錢問題 是要提供留下的動機呀 05/02 21:45
推 gaiaesque :樓上真的這樣覺得喔........我從不覺得C's人力充足 05/02 21:46
→ gaiaesque :我看錯了XD 05/02 21:46
→ jghs121 :KG! 05/02 21:47
推 dioib :那也要怪Ainge 期待了半天只弄來一隻守開特力的中鋒 05/02 21:52
推 dioib :說真的 交易截止時我還真不敢相信 就當時來看我們的 05/02 21:56
→ dioib :陣容比季初還弱... 要不是老人回吹加上AB異軍突起 05/02 21:57
→ dioib :季後賽我真的不忍卒睹 05/02 21:57
→ dioib : 春 05/02 21:58
推 criminal :比季初還弱...? 05/02 22:00
推 dioib :季初有小歐 wilcox 還有本以為可以被扶正的green 你 05/02 22:22
→ dioib :認為呢？ 05/02 22:23
→ piercepaul :Green跟Wilcox是天意 小歐已經盡力了 05/02 22:24
推 wu2183 :大家都很辛苦 加油吧 05/02 22:24
→ piercepaul :季中要交易 就是拆Big 3 或賣Rondo 05/02 22:24
推 dioib :不交易也罷 從NBDL或其他管道找一個可以打十分鐘的高 05/02 22:26
→ dioib :個兒也好啊 萬一接下來有禁區受傷怎麼辦?直接舉白旗? 05/02 22:27
→ piercepaul :就...香威廉斯跟齁林斯... 05/02 22:28
推 dioib :香威不能打季後賽啊 齁林斯...等垃圾時間吧 05/02 22:31
→ dioib :算了 現在講什麼都沒用 只能Tebowing了 05/02 22:32
→ piercepaul :基本上能在季中"簽"到的禁區 都不用太期待 05/02 22:33
→ piercepaul :這幾年我們在季中簽到最好的禁區 就是PJ了 05/02 22:33
→ piercepaul :還是從退休人員裡挖出來的... 05/02 22:34
→ dioib :這也是我想問的 為何弄不回希蛙? 湖人熱火都去試了卻 05/02 22:39
→ dioib :沒有想回鍋的消息? 05/02 22:39
→ piercepaul :阿災 他可能也不會想回來吧 05/02 22:42
→ bri :Wallace就不在狀態吧 不然怎麼連湖人熱火也不要他 05/02 22:48
推 allbear :溪蛙他胖了 05/02 23:18
推 austin66 :這..也不是說要找就找的到啊 05/02 23:22
→ austin66 :基本上 安吉這季沒動到四巨頭 在我心中就有A++了 05/02 23:23
推 criminal :同意樓上啊 哪這麼好搞啊 05/02 23:42
→ tseng40 :從季中差點放棄重建到現在還有機會拚冠軍 真的要感謝 05/03 00:30
→ tseng40 :老頭們的堅持 05/03 00:31
推 momofishj :這季拿到冠軍就一起退休吧 05/03 00:54
推 pohao522 :戰到最後一刻吧～ KG魂! 05/03 18:32