[外電] I hate all your Rondo trade ideas

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新聞出處(必填): CelticsBlog

作者: Jeff Clark

so, in case you missed it, I made a really bad decision by requesting your
"best" trade ideas.  I'm not going to link to the post because I'm afraid you
people will keep submitting them.  My eyes, they burn.  Can't un-see.  (Note:
I say this all with a smirk on my face.  So please don't take anything
personally.)

Now I must admit.  They aren't all bad.  Some of them are well thought out
and reasoned.  Some are sarcastically funny.  Some are unintentionally funny,
which is even better.  But there are just too many to cover in just one post
so I'll drag this out a bit and split them into categories.

The first category is Rajon Rondo ideas.  These will get the most attention
anyway so we might as well start here.  He's our biggest only star.  He also
happens to be my binkie right now, so of course I hate all these ideas.
 Still, I will do my "best" to stamp down the gag reflex and review these as
objectively as I can (which is to say not at all).

簡單講Jeff對最近RR的交易流言感到厭煩了，相信許多板友有一樣的想法；一不作二不休
，他向網友徵求一系列幻想的RR交易案，一次吐槽吐個爽。

1.Celtsfanforlife

「
Lakers in: Rondo, late 2014 1st rounder from Pheonix
Pheonix in: Gasol
Celtics in: Okafer, Lakers 2014 1st rounder unprotected
」

Lakers: They get another start to pair with Kobe. Kobe loves Rondo.

Suns: We know they want Gasol and this is about the right price.

Celts: They get another great lottery pick. And Lakers will be horrible with
no Kobe or Gasol."

湖人得到KOBE最愛的軟豆(混蛋認證)，太陽拿到姐姐擋一下季後賽，C"s拿到湖人樂透簽

Nope.  I can't even imagine trading Rondo for a draft pick until the draft
order is set for 2014, which would be too late for the Lakers purpose of
shedding salary at the deadline.

Jeff：無法想像只是拿RR去換個樂透簽，而且對湖人而言要省稅也太晚了。
感想：.......湖人？

2.Chattceltic

「
Celtics- Stuckey,Drummond,Villeneuva,1st rd 2014
Pistons- Rondo,Wallace, clippers 1st"
」

活塞出裝猛、兩張到期約跟14年一輪簽換來RR、G蛙跟快艇明年的一輪簽

Pistons get rondo, we dump Wallace and get the athletic rim protecter we've
always wanted

I think the Pistons say no to this one.  Drummond is untouchable right now
and adding in all that salary doesn't help.

Jeff：活塞根本不可能動裝猛。
感想：幹賺翻快換。

3.Steve

「
Detroit gets: Rajon, Rondo, Brandon Bass, and Gerald Wallace
Boston gets: Greg Monroe and Brandon Jennings
」

活塞得到RR、B.Bass、GW，C's得到夢羅跟建寧。

"Detroit gets a talented point guard to pair with longtime buddy Josh Smith,
while clearing out their frontcourt logjam

Boston gets a huge upgrade at PF/C while dropping an albatross contract "
This makes more sense, but I still hate it.  Adding Monroe and dumping
Wallace isn't enough of a draw for me to replace Rondo with Jennings.  Do not
want.

Jeff：這方案看來合理多了，但不認為為了得到夢羅以及清掉G蛙就去動到RR。
感想：合理但沒必要。

4.behaviorla

「
Boston trades Rondo and Wallace to Detroit for Monroe, Villanueva, Stuckey
and Singler
」

RR加上GW去換來夢羅、兩張到期約跟Singler(who?)

Detroit gets Rondo who they supposedly covet.  Celtics get a young center who
complements Sullinger, two expiring contracts and a young outside shooter in
Singler. Detroit also frees up money to sign Drummond to a max extension when
they could lose Monroe in free agency

Getting better (no Jennings) but still don't like it.  I like Monroe, just
not THAT much.

Jeff：這筆看來感覺良好(不用吃下建寧合約)，但仍然不覺得夢羅好到要用RR換。
感想：跟上一筆一樣，雖然有賺但是交易執行的必要性很低。

5.saltlover

「
Utah receives:
Rajon Rondo
Gerald Wallace

Boston receives:
Trey Burke
Rudy Gobert
Richard Jefferson
Brandon Rush
2014 1st round pick from Utah (unprotected)
」

爵士吃下RR跟GW，C's得到14首輪跟TB以及兩張到期約+Gobert(who?)

"Utah has an interesting young core of Derrick Favors, Gordon Hayward, Enes
Kanter, and Alec Burks. Theoretically Trey Burke is supposed to be the point
guard at the helm of this core, but if you were Utah, wouldn't you rather
have a multiple-time All-Star leading that group instead of a promising
rookie? Sure, it's a hefty price, especially since that 2014 pick is going to
be a lottery pick this year, but right now you're losing the race to even be
in the top 5 for lottery balls, and you're getting a franchise point guard.
You also still have Golden State's pick which is currently #22 overall, but
only 2 games from falling into the lottery itself.

猶他有許多年輕的核心──Favors、Hayward、Kanter以及A.Burks，儘管失去TB代價不小
，但可以得到一個全明星球員的帶領；再考慮到爵士在爐主競爭中漸漸喪失優勢(公鹿
表示：)，以及手上還有一支勇士的首輪──一支離樂透區僅有兩場勝差的簽，使得交易變
得可能。

The Celtics get a point guard who has the potential to be a team-leading
player in his own right (Utah's record has improved markedly since Burke
returned from his finger injury that cost him the first several weeks of the
season), a rim-protecting center with potential, and an extra pick and
lottery balls near the top of this loaded draft class. With the contracts of
Jefferson and Rush expiring, they also clear off at least $16 million in
salary for next year, after figuring in the salary owed to the extra draft
pick. This would start to put them in max-free agent territory (assuming
there was a free agent worth the max whom they could convince to come here)."
tl;dr (too long; didn't read)

C's得到一個未來的領袖(爵士在TB回歸後有著出色的戰績)以及一個超級樂透簽，還能夠
多清出薪資空間去對自由球員開出頂薪，再者!@##%$^(太長不看了)

Basically it is a salary dump and we get Burke, Gobert, and a lottery pick.
 Again, let's see how the ping pong balls bounce.

Jeff：基本上這就是把我們的薪資整個傾倒過去，再看看下面還有甚麼。
感想：爵士的錢包就是我的錢包。

6.BoTown Celts

「
BOSTON IN

Kyrie Irving
Earl Clark
Dion Waiters

BOSTON OUT

Rondo
Jeff Green

CLEV OUT

Kyrie Irving
Earl Clark
Dion Waiters
Varejeo

CLEV IN

Rondo
Josh Smith

DETROIT OUT

Josh Smith

DETROIT IN

Jeff Green
Varejao"
」

三方交易，活塞出賈許，C's出RR跟Green，騎士出KI跟服務生+大V以及Clark(who?)

I love Rondo, but this gives Celts a chance to start with a younger core when
Kyrie comes in in place of Rondo. Celts would retain their 2014 1st round
picks in this scenario, so they can add 2 more young guys to Kyrie and
Sullinger (and hope to resign Bradley). Rondo is happy because he gets to
team up with his buddy Josh Smith and Detroit is happy because Jeff Green can
replace Smith at 9M instead of 14M and has 1 less yr remaining on his
contract (they also can use Varejao next yr as trade bait since he will be
expiring).

儘管RR深受喜愛，但C's可以得到用更年輕核心重建的機會，加上自己的14首輪簽，可以
再選進兩名年輕球員輔助KI；而RR也會很開心的在騎士跟Josh打球，底特律也可以得到
更適合自己的Green以及大V的超值約。

Wut?  I think you broke my brain.

Jeff：WTF
感想：WTF


7.Prince Will

「
Celtics: Rondo, Wallace

Lakers: Gasol, 2014 1st round pick"
」

RR+GW換來姐姐跟樂透簽

"Lakers get Rondo so they can make their team better now in the remaining
Kobe years.

Celtics get a big expiring contract and a 1st rounder. Not really sure if
Rondo is the guy to go with for the future."

湖人得到RR來輔佐Kobe，而C's得到超大張到期約──RR也不不見得是那個未來要的人。

Over my dead body.

Jeff：踏過我的屍體先。
感想：(踏)

8.emaloy

Rajon Rondo and Jeff Green for Omer Asik and Jeremy Lin

萬用包換RR+Green

"Real point guard and small forward backup for real center and fill-in point
guard.

Get set up to draft Dante Exum.

Houston can win now (or get closer) despite what the Machine says. Celtics
get a real center that can rebound and play defense.

Lin goes in when contract expires? Celtics go into full rebuild mode. "

在明年選進Exum後讓Lin打SG，再讓超額薪資將C's打入重建地獄；火箭？爽得哩──

Burn baby burn huh?  Pass.

Jeff：燒阿寶貝！燒阿！
感想：準備喪屍入侵。

9.Anders

「
To Detroit: Rondo, Green, Asik
To Huston: Humphries, Jennings, Singler + pick from celtics
To Boston: Lin, Drummond, Monroe, Villanueva"
」

三方交易，萬用包換得憨佛、建寧、、Singler加上C's的簽，活塞得到RR、Green、Asik；
C's得到林、裝猛、夢羅、到期約。

"Detroit ready for playoffs
Huston ready for contending
Celtics ready to rebuild (with help from loaded draft either Wiggins, Parker
or Exum would fit)

...nobody says no"

活塞得以打進季後賽、火箭得以增強競爭力,、C's爽到失禁；沒人會說不的！

O RLY? Or maybe nobody says yes.

Jeff：真的齁？你確定不是沒人會說好？
感想：是有多討厭火箭哈哈。

10.SirGreen18

「
Rajon Rondo for Brian Scalabrine
」

Does it sound like it needs an explanation?!

這不需要解釋

Tempting.  Very tempting.

Jeff：喔幹好誘人
感想：留名歷史就是此刻。

11.celticsgreen354

trade rondo,green clippers first round pick to pelicans for Anthony davis and
holiday

豆子加小綠去換AD+Holiday

the pelicans get a future point guard to build around and jeff at the 3 with
eirc gordan at the 2 not a bad frontcourt and a pick to sweetin the deal the
celtics get a a center they been craving for since the lost perk and a above
average point guard.just a idea tell me what you think



Anthony Davis I would totally do.  The Pelicans, however, would totally not.

Jeff：得到AD我願意阿阿啊啊，鵜鶘一定不願意阿啊啊啊。
感想：啊啊啊啊。

12.celticsfan8591

「
Celtics trade: Rajon Rondo
Kings trade: Ben McLemore, Jimmer Fredette, Carl Landry, 2014 and 2017 first
round picks (both unprotected)
」

RR換得賣檸檬、洗衣店、Fredette以及兩張未保護首輪(14+17)

"Why for the Celtics: This trade completes our rebuild. We get a top 10 pick
in a loaded draft to pair with our own, a young two guard with All-Star
potential in McLemore, a future pick that gives us two picks in each of the
four drafts after this one. Landry has a bad contract, but he's a high
character guy that won't rock the boat and we won't be needing cap space any
time soon anyway. Jimmer can get a brief trial with the C's before his
contract expires, at which point we either let him go or sign him as a
shooter/fan favorite/potential Jabari buddy off the bench. With the picks
this year I would envision us taking Rondo's replacement (either Exum or
Smart) and the best frontcourt player available.

這樣C's可以在未來幾年選爽爽選翻天，其他三個球員就是充數用。

Why for the Kings: The trades they made for Rudy Gay and Derrick Williams
seem to indicate that the Kings want to start contending for the playoffs.
Isaiah Thomas is decent, but Rondo is a huge upgrade talent wise and provides
the Kings with some championship experience. Rondo is also an alpha dog who
has shown that he can go toe to toe with anyone on his best days, and the
Kings have no one else who fits that description (unless Cousins matures and
keeps developing as a player). Cousins' development may eventually be enough
to get them to the playoffs, but in order to make any noise the Kings are
going to need another star and the only way to do that is by trading for a
star. Rondo is the only star perimeter player available right now aside from
maybe Carmelo (and can you see Melo agreeing to go to Sacramento?)."

國王直接憾動西區，搞不好還會讓Melo點頭喔！

Trade makes us the Kings of the last several years.  Do not want to be the
Kings of the last several years.

Jeff：稱霸爐主第一次就上手。
感想：這樣換比76人還謎啊。

13.Freeease1

「
to Orlando Magic - Rajon Rondo
to Boston Two (2) 2014 first round draft picks, Nelson, Maxiell, Harkless,
and Nicholson.
」

豆子換兩張14首輪、南尼、麥克希爾、Harkless跟Nicholson

this trade gives us three (3) Lottery picks in the first
round of the 2014 draft in June Plus a fourth belonging to Atlanta from the
nets.

Nelson and Maxiell can be cut at the season's end lowering of Cap Hold thus
placing us in a position to be a playeer in Free agency. and doing the draft
as well. Orlando get the point guard who can turn their franchise around with
the remaining talent they have. A win win for both clubs."

這讓C's在明年有4張首輪簽，尼爾森跟麥克希爾也可以在賽季結束時裁掉以保留空間追逐
自由球員；魔術則是在保留陣中天份的情況下得到一位全明星；雙贏。

Again, I don't want to talk picks for Rondo without knowing where they land.
A bushel of sub-star rookies does not add up to a Rondo.  Also, the Magic
probably don't mortgage the farm like that, so both teams probably say no.

Jeff：讓一個不明朗的新秀取代Rondo並不值得，而且，魔術的重建模式看來也不是這樣走
感想：各不取所需

14.carn77

「
Celtics trades Rajon Rondo and Jeff Green
Utah trades Andris Biedrins,Trey Burke,Gordon Hayward, and Rudy Gobert
」

RR+Green換得TB、黑娃、Biedrins跟Gobert。

"Celtics get two young promising players on rookie contracts in Burke and
Gobert. I've seen this kid Gorbert play a few times he's a big strong shot
blocker that can rebound and has a nice touch at the free throw line. Burke
could be a great pg to replace Rondo. Celtics also reunite Hayward with
Stevens and get Biedrins 9 million of the books at the end of the year. This
deal saves the Celtics 6 million this year and down the road.

C's得到TB來取代RR，也讓黑娃跟帥哥教練重聚，Biedrins的到期約以及Gobert都可以
帶來幫助

Utah gets a stud pg in Rondo on a friendly contract, and Green as a third or
fourth option guy instead of being the go to man. A starting lineup of
Rondo,Burks,Green,Kanter, and Favors could compete in the tough western
conference.

I think this trade is a win win for both teams "

爵士可以得到RR的超值合約，Green也不用再背負球隊第一人的期待，R-B-G-K-F的強悍
陣容來年就可以衝擊西區；我認為這是個雙贏交易。

I'd rather keep Rondo and go after Hayward in free agency.

Jeff：要搶黑娃等暑假不就好了？
感想：(等)

So to wrap this up, please let me summarize.

說夠了來個總結吧

http://goo.gl/vy0iXf

ＯＨ　ＮＯ。


感想：好不容易換了新電腦可以上來翻東西，結果舊硬碟壞檔了.......

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