[外電] Bos is "trying hard" to get Love

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作者: wjsy

好久沒翻C's的東西，最近搞的都是政治新聞

喔耶！老梗又來了！ It's ☆Ｌ．Ｏ．Ｖ．Ｅ☆

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The latest rumor on Kevin Love from Chad Ford:

昨天Chad Ford講的愛神八卦：

The Celtics were vert busy last week, holding workouts with Noah Vonleh,
Aaron Gordon, MArcus Smart, Julius Randle, Gary Harris, Nik Stauksas and
Doug McDermott, essentailly everyone they would consider with the No,6 pick.

    上禮拜制服組很忙，把所有第六順位的可能人選都拉來試訓。

I still believe that Vonleh, Gordon and Smart are the heavy favorites if Boston
keeps the pick, with Gordon being the choise right now given the way we have
 the draft board playing out.

    基本上就這三個可能啦〈雖然我都不滿意〉：Vonleh，Gordon跟Smart。

But I continue to get singnals that the celtics are trying hard to use the pick
No.6 and 17 along with future No.1s and young plarers such as Jared Sullinger
or Kelly Olynyk to persuade the Minnesota Timberwolves to trade Kevin Love. one
sourse close to the Wolves said that while Flip Saunders does not want to trade
Love, he realizes the team likely will lose him summer and the package the
Celtics are offering is probably the best he's going to get. Given the strength
of the draft, picks6, 13 and 17 could land them three young starters to help
them rebuild their roster quickly.

    但我持續的收到C's正極力嘗試運用兩隻首輪簽〈一支今年加上未來一支〉、搭配年輕
球員例如Sully或Kelly來說服灰狼隊交易Love，一個親近灰狼方的來源透露，儘管很不願
意，但Saunders也了解C's所給的八成也是市面上最好的包裹，三個14年的首輪簽也能夠幫
助他們快速重建〈想把兩支都拿去啊！？〉。

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It's pretty much everything we've been hearing before.  Even though the
Celtics have hosted a bunch of players in workouts and several have stuck
out, if a deal for Kevin Love looks realistic, all that work will be for
naught.  A rumor surfaced a few days ago that Flip Saunders would make a deal
before draft night and he's taken shots at his star player publicly, but this
could all be GM gamesmanship and Love could start the season in Minnesota
despite his obvious overtures that Boston is a destination that he'd
certainly consider.

  這大概跟我們之前聽過的一模一樣，如果這是真的那這幾天不就白忙一場？幾天前另一
個謠傳說Saunders會在選秀夜前做出交易，並且公開嘗試交易他的明星球員，但這也有可
能是個煙霧彈，而Love也大概仍會以灰狼球員的身分開始賽季；儘管他跟Boston一直在那
眉來眼去的。

Let's shelve the idea of Love-to-Boston and the possible/eventual dominoes
that could fall after that (Houston gifting us Omer Asik to make room for
Carmelo Anthony, Avery Bradley's restricted free agency, etc.) for a moment
and look at the potential deal.  Ford suggests it could take both 2014 picks
plus young talent in Jared Sullinger and/or Kelly Olynyk plus future first
rounders and that Boston has the best package to offer the Timberwolves, but
is too much to give up for a 25-year-old Love?

    先來討論可能的最終方案吧〈撇除一切可能因素，例如火賤萬用包之類的〉，我們難
道要給出兩個14年首輪簽以及未來的一支首輪，加上Sully或是Kelly來換取25歲的愛愛？

Yesterday, Stevens gushed at the way the Spurs played during the Finals.  He
talked about their depth at every position and everybody being ready to play
when called upon:

  前天帥哥才發表了他對於馬刺隊在總冠軍戰表現的心得：

"I just think everybody is so locked in to their role and trying to be the
best teammate they can be," said Stevens. "You see some games where those
guys play, some games where they don't play. They're very supportive of one
another. They're clearly on one mission. Against us, they didn't have three
of their starters the second time they came here and they drilled us. I think
that's who they've been all year. They've been able to sit guys, rest guys,
do all that stuff and never miss a beat. The way that they played and the way
that their young guys have increased their roles and the way that their old
guys have continued to play great and accept those young guys -- at the end
of the day, it's been a great thing to emulate."

    「我看到每一個球員都如此的固守在自己的角色上，並盡其所能作為彼此的最佳戰友
。」帥哥說「你會看到不同的比賽都會有人挺身而出，他們是彼此的最大支援，而且很明
顯的專注於同一件任務上，季賽我們第二次對陣時，他們甚至沒有擺上原有的先發陣容，
而且還拿我們來練兵〈喔呵呵= =〉，我想那就是他們整年在做的，馬刺能夠把他們的球員
按在板凳上、押回家休息，做這一切的同時還能不失任何節奏〈帥哥很含蓄啦，就是不准
任何人刷數據，這在其他隊根本行不通〉，他們打球、增進年輕球員能力以及老鳥們維持
高水準並包容小夥子的種種方法──在各方面看來，都是值得效法的對象。

A Love trade would bring another superstar to pair with Rajon Rondo in Boston
but in my humble opinion, that seems more Miami and less San Antonio.  With
the depth in this draft and Brad Stevens taking such a hands-on approach to
finding players that he wants to coach, I'm not so sure mortgaging so much of
the future on one player is worth it.  Admittedly, I'm a prisoner of
intrigue.  It's why Dante Exum looks so appealing and the multiple first
rounders in the next five years give us hope.  However, hope doesn't win
championships and Danny Ainge is all about hanging banners in the rafters.
 But let's remember that in the vaunted 17-year run San Antonio been on under
Greg Popovich, I can't remember a single moment when they had to "pull the
trigger."  They just kept finding players that fit their system and molded
them into Spurs.  They've made small moves to grab players that they love
(like trading George Hill for Finals MVP Kawhi Leonard), but for the most
part, patience has been one of their biggest virtues.

    相較之下，將Love盤來Rondo身邊的做法看來是更多的「火火」而少了「刺刺」一點，
看著Stevens在選秀試訓中是如何積極尋找他想要執教的球員〈第一次嘛〉，我不太確定付
出這麼多代價去換取一個球員是否值得；未來的新秀看來是這麼的吸引人，而未來五年數
不清的簽給了我們許多希望；儘管如此，希望沒辦法贏得冠軍，而安吉總想在屋頂上再掛
上幾面旗幟。

    回過頭來看，在馬刺自豪的、在波波治理的過去十七年中，我無法記起任何一個他們
必須「扣下板機」的時刻，他們就是不斷的尋找適合他們體系的球員並將其形塑成馬刺要
的樣子，或是進行一些小交易去得到鍾愛的球員〈像是用Hill換來FMVP〉，但最重要的，
還是他們所秉持的、耐心的美德。

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我是覺得現在C's很有可能是跟灰狼講好一搭一唱啦，就當個雙面間諜這樣，四換一也太
誇張，同樣的價碼拿去盤夢羅我想好多了，人家又乖～

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※ 編輯: NLchu (111.185.51.107), 06/18/2014 02:49:50
推 sport0472001:買鍋貼比較好
推 jackysuyu   :我也覺得籌碼給太多了啦
→ jackysuyu   :要3個首輪 灰狼13籤好歹也要吐出來
→ NLchu       :鍋貼耍大牌。不喜歡
推 sport0472001:如果同樣的包裹 我比較想換甜瓜 雖然他比較老 但他
→ sport0472001:有季後賽經驗
推 john61318   :#17+蘇利+未來一輪 換LOVE
→ john61318   :#6選Smart
→ john61318   :今年2輪+BASS+小綠 換甜瓜
→ john61318   :在看還有沒有空間撿Okafor或Hawes 不然補個大白也好
→ Rover       :樓上出的價碼也太低，灰狼跟尼克不會理你吧？XD
推 john61318   :那只好加上老桑跟禪師兩張裸照了
推 auron4041   :感覺今年選秀又會是C's奪去目光
推 bgp915117   :2輪+BASS+小綠 換甜瓜.................
→ bgp915117   :別隊隨便出都比這好很多吧 尼克哪會鳥我們
推 rubyyl0701  :j大搶真大XD 要換這兩隻#6是不可能留住的啦
推 tseng40     :...我們今年沒二輪喔~
推 lalascott   :換愛出到四隻首輪（14x2+15x1+Sully）也太多了吧 我
→ lalascott   :還在笑想當年Ray來連帶KG一起被吸引的大交易 再能吸
→ lalascott   :到Melo的話Angie我就叫你神了
推 lalascott   :另外我覺得Melo應該滿想走的 看看總教練位子上坐的某
→ lalascott   :魚 怎麼看尼克都一點競爭力都沒有
→ piercepaul  :除非Melo願意再等一年，但明年他就31歲了
推 lanver1220  :除此之外 不懂尼克在幹嘛，給一堆/收一些 資新過高的
→ lanver1220  :球員約合，卻要求Melo降薪，是我心中一定不是滋味
→ lanver1220  :看看義大利狀元郎(自己收的) 拳王 阿罵(自己給的)
推 lanver1220  :當初也沒看到 殘屍要求Kobe降薪，為了安撫Kobe還一直
→ lanver1220  :說好話，打圓場。看看以前 看看現在...真的是兩套標
→ lanver1220  :準，手段粗糙呀
推 cfcs2004    :能不能搶個攻守兼備的啊？Lebron？XD
推 JackieShane :如果灰狼著眼的是快速重建，拿首輪應該不比年輕的即
→ JackieShane :戰力好吧
推 gaiaesque   :討厭LBJ...
推 tseng40     :老實說LBJ真的蠻適合我們的XD雖然也不會特別喜歡他
→ tseng40     :但他和Rondo一起帶年輕球員真的不錯
→ Rover       :老實說LBJ大概適合全聯盟每一隊,只是打到最後終究會
→ Rover       :變回騎士隊...因為他強到會改變整支隊伍的結構
→ Myosotis    :同意樓上　他太耀眼了所以不行
推 auron4041   :不想要 耀不耀眼無關 Boston是不需要有皇帝的
→ auron4041   :我覺得我們需要的是一個可以在關鍵時刻讓Rondo傳球
→ auron4041   :的時候 我們可以"啊 這球進了"的那種球員
→ auron4041   :以前我覺得並希望Green和AB可以成為這種人 可惜
→ auron4041   :要自己養出一個巨頭似乎不是那麼簡單
推 feelike     :我覺得能夠追到Turner跟Gortat，我就很滿足了
→ auron4041   :以前Ray和PP只要在空檔接到Rondo的傳球 還沒投我就有
→ auron4041   :那種信心他們絕對會拿下那次進攻
→ auron4041   :不知道甚麼時候還會有那種感覺...
推 dixongossip :照這樣說的話，我會比較想要K.Martin > Love XDDDD
推 TT123       :Riley應該會出頂薪留LBJ，Wade、Bosh是其次..
→ TT123       :你看熱火的陣容，少了LBJ後還有意義嗎?
→ TT123       :不管Wade肯不肯降薪，這支冠軍隊少不了LBJ
推 mog044      :AB: 我也很敢投 你們怎麼都不相信我
→ black2453   :雖然不甘我們的事——Wade不想降薪只要不跳出合約就
→ black2453   :好啦
→ black2453   :記得6/24～ 7/1好像是跳出合同的期限 是說我真希望JA
→ black2453   :跳出...
推 sport0472001:他都說他要執行了....
→ rubyyl0701  :JA跳出 有夢最美XD 好3.8M不領才有鬼
→ NLchu       :是我也執行，反正他打得很認真沒關係
推 jackysuyu   :WADE不降喇叭肯定不留 到時準備把天賦到去新地方了
推 pote85712   :公牛賣首輪耶
推 lanver1220  :JA一輩子就是這兩年會最爽，不用上場 還可以坐最前排
→ lanver1220  :最重要還有人送錢給他。
推 lalascott   :別忘了今年還有另一個籃網交易來的配菜K.Bogan也是
→ lalascott   :5M領爽爽 都不用打最後還鬧脾氣連板凳席都不用坐
推 TT123       :這5M很好交易..收這5M的球隊可以直接揮棄不用付錢
→ NLchu       :無敵配菜