→ Oceanian:多謝﹐不過似乎你很愛自己diy對方立場呢 210.76.197.157 02/11 23:57
→ trinity1103:你們那兒政治正確的事,不用我形塑吧 59.115.11.187 02/12 00:00
→ KYOUKA:其實看看唐魯孫的東西就夠了...唉123.204.135.142 02/12 00:01
→ Oceanian:你真是走火入魔﹐隻會把大陸所有人都踢到 210.76.197.157 02/12 00:17
→ Oceanian:反感你的那一邊。 210.76.197.157 02/12 00:17
→ trinity1103:說反日也不對,說不反日也不對,是怎樣? 59.115.11.187 02/12 00:20
→ trinity1103:反感? 值幾多錢? 能吃嗎? 科科 59.115.11.187 02/12 00:21
→ KYOUKA:我真是服了他,拿自己的廚師去度別人的廚師123.204.135.142 02/12 00:21
推 xptx:一開始說放山雞的好像不同人...@@122.125.196.200 02/12 00:31
→ KYOUKA:有不同的人要幫他轉移話題..123.204.135.142 02/12 00:33
→ Oceanian:是你自己在離題﹐大家都看的清清楚楚 210.76.197.157 02/12 00:36
→ KYOUKA:你們要替原來那個講錯的離題到其他,隨便啊123.204.135.142 02/12 00:37
→ KYOUKA:怪了,放山雞就是不能拿來做炸雞,這也要扯123.204.135.142 02/12 00:37
→ KYOUKA:還要怪別人離題啊?123.204.135.142 02/12 00:40
推 Oceanian:我看你是故意搞怪吧。賣炸雞的路邊店能像 210.76.197.157 02/12 00:41
→ Oceanian:你鼓吹的“什麼原料做什麼菜”﹐而不是“ 210.76.197.157 02/12 00:41
→ KYOUKA:一開始就是在講雞排,雞排的店是要高檔?123.204.135.142 02/12 00:42
→ KYOUKA:講雞排還要扯到放山雞,這誰的問題啊?123.204.135.142 02/12 00:42
→ Oceanian:你有邏輯沒有﹖ 210.76.197.157 02/12 00:42
→ KYOUKA:雞排用的肉也不是什麼爛肉,自己想當然爾123.204.135.142 02/12 00:43
→ Oceanian:路邊店不可能多追求品質-->所以隻能 210.76.197.157 02/12 00:43
→ KYOUKA:還在扯邏輯,邏輯罩得住你根本就搞錯?123.204.135.142 02/12 00:43
→ KYOUKA:人家也不是用爛肉啦。你以為都跟你碰到的123.204.135.142 02/12 00:43
→ KYOUKA:廚師一樣啊?123.204.135.142 02/12 00:44
→ Oceanian:什麼原料就做合適的菜﹐不可能為了菜的 210.76.197.157 02/12 00:44
→ Oceanian:品質專門去尋優質原料。這不是很正常麼﹖ 210.76.197.157 02/12 00:44
→ KYOUKA:第一,我告訴你,放山雞再高貴,也不能拿來123.204.135.142 02/12 00:44
→ KYOUKA:做炸雞。123.204.135.142 02/12 00:44
→ Oceanian:一開始就在討論路邊店﹐是你要扯到“廚師 210.76.197.157 02/12 00:44
→ KYOUKA:第二,台灣的雞排店講究的是用本地飼料雞。123.204.135.142 02/12 00:45
→ Oceanian:素質”這種離奇的偏題 210.76.197.157 02/12 00:45
→ Oceanian:最開始根本沒提到山雞﹐隻說炸雞原料大多 210.76.197.157 02/12 00:45
→ Oceanian:不好﹐這你也要反對哦﹖ 210.76.197.157 02/12 00:45
→ KYOUKA:不講究素質,用美國進口肉雞就好,幹嘛還123.204.135.142 02/12 00:46
→ KYOUKA:多花錢?開雞排攤的誰不知道這個道理?123.204.135.142 02/12 00:46
→ KYOUKA:要像你講的,極度costdown,那用美國肉雞123.204.135.142 02/12 00:48
推 Oceanian:因為消費者有用腳投票的權利啊。要是消費 210.76.197.157 02/12 00:48
→ Oceanian:者不在乎本地口味﹐你看他們用不用美國雞 210.76.197.157 02/12 00:48
→ KYOUKA:就好。幹嘛還窮講究? 123.204.135.142 02/12 00:48
→ KYOUKA:廢話,你不用腳投票,養出一堆爛廚師123.204.135.142 02/12 00:49
→ Oceanian:costdown當然有限度﹐這個限度由買家決定 210.76.197.157 02/12 00:49
→ KYOUKA:再來說這些菜都不可靠,奇怪這本末倒置了吧123.204.135.142 02/12 00:49
→ KYOUKA:你自己講的極度,自己去修改。123.204.135.142 02/12 00:49
→ Oceanian:而且你有偏題﹐就是台灣本地雞﹐也不可能 210.76.197.157 02/12 00:50
→ KYOUKA:那跟本地口味也沒關係,那是肉質、肉質123.204.135.142 02/12 00:50
→ Oceanian:用雞腿肉做雞排。還不是一樣的道理。y 210.76.197.157 02/12 00:50
→ KYOUKA:肉質影響口感,間接影響肉汁123.204.135.142 02/12 00:50
→ KYOUKA:誰告訴你沒有的?123.204.135.142 02/12 00:50
→ Oceanian:消費者的鑒別壓力消失的地方﹐costdown就 210.76.197.157 02/12 00:50
→ KYOUKA:用雞腿肉做腿排很少見嗎?那是你少見吧。123.204.135.142 02/12 00:51
→ Oceanian:是無敵的。消費者都用腳投票﹐為何台灣不 210.76.197.157 02/12 00:51
→ KYOUKA:那就是你沒鑑別力啊,怪誰啊?123.204.135.142 02/12 00:51
→ Oceanian:賣炸雞舌﹖那才是雞身上最有品質的部分哦 210.76.197.157 02/12 00:51
→ Oceanian:根本就是個平衡問題﹐你光說一方面很無聊 210.76.197.157 02/12 00:52
→ KYOUKA:為什麼?不好意思,一隻雞最好的是腿123.204.135.142 02/12 00:52
→ KYOUKA:還輪不到雞舌。123.204.135.142 02/12 00:52
→ Oceanian:顯然舌頭。雞舌牛舌哪怕豬舌都最貴 210.76.197.157 02/12 00:53
→ KYOUKA:炸雞腿排在台灣也很常見,連大腿的也有啦。123.204.135.142 02/12 00:53
→ Oceanian:要吃品質活肉當然比死肉好。我老家那邊還 210.76.197.157 02/12 00:54
→ KYOUKA:顯然?哪裡的顯然?123.204.135.142 02/12 00:54
→ Oceanian:流行啃雞脖鴨脖咧﹐口味肉質又上了一檔 210.76.197.157 02/12 00:54
→ KYOUKA:好像剛剛還有人拿雞腿說事嘛。123.204.135.142 02/12 00:54
→ Oceanian:雞排雞肉餅會不會用雞舌雞脖肉嘛﹖ 210.76.197.157 02/12 00:54
→ KYOUKA:雞脖鴨脖才是最差的肉,謝謝。123.204.135.142 02/12 00:55
→ KYOUKA:杧袘璅S看過,雞排當然不會用雞舌雞脖123.204.135.142 02/12 00:55
→ Oceanian:謬論。常動的肉最好﹐前面說了多少次了 210.76.197.157 02/12 00:55
→ KYOUKA:雞肉餅沒看過123.204.135.142 02/12 00:56
→ KYOUKA:去看雞鴨從哪裡打針啊。123.204.135.142 02/12 00:56
→ Oceanian:你以為牛舌牛尾在西餐裡比不上菲力﹖笑話 210.76.197.157 02/12 00:56
→ KYOUKA:謬論?不打針的雞也還輪不到雞脖最上等啦。123.204.135.142 02/12 00:56
→ KYOUKA:拿牛舌比雞脖子?我真的要笑了。123.204.135.142 02/12 00:57
→ Oceanian:在大陸都是打雞翅﹐謝謝 210.76.197.157 02/12 00:57
→ KYOUKA:我也講過了,就算是不打針的雞,也還輪不到123.204.135.142 02/12 00:58
→ KYOUKA:雞脖最上等。而如果雞脖價格好,針也不會打123.204.135.142 02/12 00:58
→ Oceanian:豬尾鴨脖﹐我老家的傳統臘味。你的笑還真 210.76.197.157 02/12 00:58
→ Oceanian:便宜 210.76.197.157 02/12 00:58
→ KYOUKA:在那裡。123.204.135.142 02/12 00:58
→ KYOUKA:不好意思,我老家這兩樣都是沒人吃的。123.204.135.142 02/12 00:59
→ Oceanian:價格不高是因為一般人不知道要吃啊。 210.76.197.157 02/12 00:59
→ Oceanian:單論肉質一定是雞胸最差的﹐你承認否﹖ 210.76.197.157 02/12 00:59
→ KYOUKA:要吃吃腰子,吃豬腦,吃雞睪丸。123.204.135.142 02/12 00:59
→ KYOUKA:一般?多一般?你的邏輯就是拿你的一般去123.204.135.142 02/12 01:00
→ KYOUKA:評斷?123.204.135.142 02/12 01:00
→ KYOUKA:剛剛還有人講上等的要鮮吃,現在講腊味囉123.204.135.142 02/12 01:00
→ Oceanian:總比你的“高素質”廚師要一般些﹐呵呵 210.76.197.157 02/12 01:00
→ KYOUKA:喔,選品質好的材料來下廚那叫做基本123.204.135.142 02/12 01:01
→ Oceanian:你儘管繼續好了﹐讓大家看笑話。 210.76.197.157 02/12 01:01
→ KYOUKA:這樣就算高素質,你的低素質,嘖嘖。123.204.135.142 02/12 01:01
→ KYOUKA:看看是誰鬧笑話啊,雞脖子比牛舌,哈。123.204.135.142 02/12 01:01
→ Oceanian:又來了﹐車軱轆話煩不煩﹖雞排店很高檔哦 210.76.197.157 02/12 01:02
→ Oceanian:裡面都是你那種寧缺毋濫﹐沒有好肉不開工 210.76.197.157 02/12 01:02
→ KYOUKA:不高檔啊。不高檔的店都知道要要求品質123.204.135.142 02/12 01:02
→ Oceanian:的料理大師。 210.76.197.157 02/12 01:02
→ KYOUKA:你是不是該好好反省自己縱容爛廚師啦?123.204.135.142 02/12 01:03
→ Oceanian:所以發明了雞排這種做法﹐滿足台灣人對 210.76.197.157 02/12 01:03
→ Oceanian:品質的要求 210.76.197.157 02/12 01:03
→ KYOUKA:不好意思,台灣的養雞產業很發達 123.204.135.142 02/12 01:03
→ Oceanian:我想不至於比台灣雞排店平均水平爛 210.76.197.157 02/12 01:03
→ KYOUKA:雞排這個做法,是把一隻品質不錯的雞身上123.204.135.142 02/12 01:03
→ KYOUKA:經濟價值最低的部分提高價值,而不是拿爛肉123.204.135.142 02/12 01:04
→ KYOUKA:賣人。123.204.135.142 02/12 01:04
→ Oceanian:奇怪﹐作為有追求的高素質廚師﹐應該堅決 210.76.197.157 02/12 01:04
→ KYOUKA:連食材都不講究的食客,養得出什麼好廚師?123.204.135.142 02/12 01:04
→ Oceanian:迴避雞胸肉這種爛肉才對﹐怎麼可以鉆研 210.76.197.157 02/12 01:05
→ KYOUKA:堅決怎麼樣?經濟價值低就是爛肉?123.204.135.142 02/12 01:05
→ Oceanian:用它賣錢的方法 210.76.197.157 02/12 01:05
→ KYOUKA:哇哈哈哈哈,還真的咧。123.204.135.142 02/12 01:05
→ KYOUKA:這真是太高明啦~123.204.135.142 02/12 01:05
→ Oceanian:好的我承認台灣人人都有素質﹐炸的雞排都 210.76.197.157 02/12 01:06
→ KYOUKA:喔,現在扯不過,開始扯淡了?123.204.135.142 02/12 01:06
→ Oceanian:純潔無比﹐我會懷疑台灣雞排是大陸黑心 210.76.197.157 02/12 01:06
→ KYOUKA:喔,現在扯不過,開始扯淡了?123.204.135.142 02/12 01:06
→ Oceanian:環境的遺毒﹐ 210.76.197.157 02/12 01:06
→ KYOUKA:Oceanian:又來了﹐車軱轆話煩不煩﹖123.204.135.142 02/12 01:06
→ KYOUKA:用你的話回敬你,煩不煩啊。123.204.135.142 02/12 01:06
→ KYOUKA:低經濟價值等於爛肉,噗噗噗噗噗123.204.135.142 02/12 01:07
→ Oceanian:多謝你配合演出。台灣雞排﹐我放心。 210.76.197.157 02/12 01:07
→ Oceanian:你堅決否認台灣有賣爛肉炸雞排的﹐我又不 210.76.197.157 02/12 01:07
→ Oceanian:在台灣﹐那就信你的唄。 210.76.197.157 02/12 01:08
→ KYOUKA:請問你在哪一省啊?回頭叮矚一下家人123.204.135.142 02/12 01:08
→ KYOUKA:你那省的廚師想必常用爛肉,小心一點。123.204.135.142 02/12 01:08
→ KYOUKA:你既然連雞排用什麼肉都不知道,雞腿也123.204.135.142 02/12 01:09
→ KYOUKA:可以做腿排也不曉得,我還要要求你什麼?123.204.135.142 02/12 01:09
→ Oceanian:最好不要爆出隱患﹐比如下面這個新聞 210.76.197.157 02/12 01:09
→ KYOUKA:你放心,有問題的餐廳攤子我一定不會去吃123.204.135.142 02/12 01:10
→ KYOUKA:不會像你,用了爛肉的廚師煮的東西也敢吃。123.204.135.142 02/12 01:10
→ Oceanian:這條新聞一定是無事生非﹐抹黑台灣雞排店 210.76.197.157 02/12 01:10
→ Oceanian:你說是吧﹖ 210.76.197.157 02/12 01:10
→ KYOUKA:抹黑什麼?H家還主動提供資料呢123.204.135.142 02/12 01:11
→ KYOUKA:抹黑什麼?人家還主動提供資料呢123.204.135.142 02/12 01:11
→ KYOUKA:去搞清楚炸雞排的店從哪裡來的吧,唉123.204.135.142 02/12 01:12
→ KYOUKA:去搞清楚炸雞排的肉從哪裡來的吧,唉123.204.135.142 02/12 01:12
推 tnchues:在吵什麼啦..全台灣雞排店那麼多,用料有 59.127.144.191 02/12 01:26
→ tnchues:好有壞...就這樣而已啊... 59.127.144.191 02/12 01:27
推 KYOUKA:我也無法理解承認講錯了有難到這樣123.204.135.142 02/12 01:28
推 tnchues:不過本來是有人問啥是雞排,幹麼要扯到原 59.127.144.191 02/12 01:29
→ tnchues:料問題?想證明台灣人愛吃垃圾食物? 59.127.144.191 02/12 01:29
推 KYOUKA:要證明雞排沒什麼了不起吧;雞排的確沒什麼123.204.135.142 02/12 01:30
→ KYOUKA:但是比也要比對吧-_-123.204.135.142 02/12 01:31
→ tnchues:那些用心做雞排的店還真的要哭哭了XDDD 59.127.144.191 02/12 01:31
→ KYOUKA:well,我親戚就是肉商,所以我看得還滿多123.204.135.142 02/12 01:32
→ KYOUKA:肉質不行的雞排,再怎麼便宜也很難撐久123.204.135.142 02/12 01:33
推 tnchues:半夜看到這個會肚子餓...... 59.127.144.191 02/12 01:36
推 Chynagirl:肚子餓+1 >"< 218.164.48.129 02/12 01:39
推 KYOUKA:(嚼著蜜酥雞排..)123.204.135.142 02/12 01:39
推 Chynagirl:好壞.... 218.164.48.129 02/12 01:42
推 KYOUKA:配青草茶...:p123.204.135.142 02/12 01:45