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[Forgot the list] Douwe, the kill patch is not applicable in my opinion. The first line in the usage details the normal 'kill pid' and 'kill -s signal pid' options, the latter two show how to use the signal names and signal numbers, no need to make them optional in that syntax. By the way, did anyone ever succeed in getting kill to print its usage()? ;) -- Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven <asmodai(at)wxs.nl> / asmodai / kita no mono Free Tibet! http://www.savetibet.org/ | http://www.tibet.nu/ http://www.tendra.org/ | http://diary.in-nomine.org/ There is time in life for everything...