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※ 引述《paulchi (paul)》之銘言: : Despite the heated exchange I enjoyed both sides of the argument. But I am : not a scholar, and I resent over-analyzing simple, everyday English. : Central to this argument is the strength, or the degree of certainty contained : in the adverb 'soon', which in my opinion can be easily clarified with just a : little elaboration of the original dialogue... : ----- : Tina: It is raining soon. : Mary: How do you know? Maybe it is just cloudy. : Tina: Just cloudy? Didn't you hear the distant thunder roaring? : Mary: Nope. I was in the basement. : Tina: Trust me. It is raining soon. I can smell it in the air. : Mary: Fine. Let's go take our clothes in WHEN it does. : But IF it doesn't, you better see a doctor about your nose. : ----- : Tina: It is raining tomorrow. : Mary: How do you know? : Tina: The forecast said so. : Mary: pfff. They ain't always right. : Tina: They are usually right around this time of year. : Mary: Oh well. I won't go out to jog IF it does then. Thank you, Paulchi → lim10337:I just asked one of my friends from the U.S. He said 02/08 02:19 → lim10337:there's no such thing as "it's raining soon/tomorrow" 02/08 02:20 推 tengharold:Correction: I'm not sure I can write "it is raining 02/08 03:05 → tengharold:soon" and make it make sense in a conversation. I 02/08 03:05 3. I suppose that "It is raining soon" states definitely that rain will fall, so that the coming rain is not an "if" but a "when." In conversation, you could ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ hear either, though.. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Nicholas Watson Professor of English Harvard University 4. "It is raining soon" means that it is not yet raining, but will be soon. Therefore, answer A ("Because") is wrong, since the sentence "Because it rains, go into the building" implies that it is already raining. Answer C (If) is wrong, since the sentence "If it rains, go into the building" suggests that it might rain, whereas you know that it is definitely going to rain. ANswer D (However) is wrong, because the sentence "However it rains, go into the building," does not make much sense. Therefore B is the best answer. James Wood Professor of the Practice of Literary Criticism Department of English Harvard University 5. B is the only possible answer; the other possibilities produce incorrect syntax. James Simpson Donald P. and Katherine B. Loker Professor of English Chair Department of English Harvard University -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 210.69.13.1
tengharold:Prof. Watson is a bit reserved in endorsing the use 02/10 02:03
tengharold:"I suppose that..." 02/10 02:03
tengharold:I'm a bit surprised that Prof. Wood appears to 02/10 02:04
tengharold:fully accept the usage, makes for an interesting 02/10 02:05
tengharold:development. 02/10 02:05
tengharold:Prof Simpson is answering the "if or when" and not 02/10 02:06
tengharold:addressing the acceptability of the rain sentence. 02/10 02:06
tengharold:So the only big surprise for me is Prof. Wood 02/10 02:06
tengharold:Counting Prof. Watson, I think 1 1/2 profs endorse 02/10 02:08
tengharold:the sentence :p 02/10 02:08
hh47:That is what YOU think. 02/10 08:00
hh47:Professor Watson是講,我可以料想得到…….,儘管if或when 02/10 08:01
hh47:在口語中聽到任一種回答是有可能的。 02/10 08:01
hh47:我是覺得不要為了辯而辯。大學教授不是傻瓜。 02/10 08:02
tengharold:今天考試在考文法,別說人家出文法錯誤的題目來考文法 02/10 13:32
tengharold:絕不應該,就算原句只是在文法上有其爭議性,就不該拿 02/10 13:33
tengharold:來考文法。 02/10 13:33
tengharold:And yes I do think Prof. Watson sounds 'reserved' 02/10 13:33
tengharold:in his endorsement. That's why I said my only real 02/10 13:34
tengharold:surprise was Prof. Simpson's answer. 02/10 13:34
sneak: Professor W https://noxiv.com 08/06 07:11
sneak: 在口語中聽到任一種回答 https://daxiv.com 09/06 23:42