Re: [Mind] No Culture...I am angry today.

[BloodLust801 (就是要虐到神經崩潰)]

Even though I said I thought the debate should come to a closure...I just
can't ignore this, unfortunately. Because you changed the topic. Damn, why'd
you have to change the topic? =P

: Another thing I want to mention is that English is not something to let people
: feel superior about. Even with grammatical fluency, vocabulary fluency....even
: if you talk perfect, that only means you are good at a single area.
: I know people who are genius and they are more humble and tolerent to others
: than us.
I agree with you wholeheartedly and I don't understand why you are
bringing this up to me as though you are attacking me personally for
feeling superior just because I have a better command of English.
I don't think perfect English amounts to anything either.
However, you cannot deny the advantages of someone who can speak better
than others, someone who can get their point across the board better than
others.
What type of teachers do you like? Someone who can captivate you with their
strong command of language, someone who can teach you what they know?
Or someone who is good at a subject but not good with spoken language
and therefore unable to give you what they know?
Why do you think Hitler was able to brainwash so many people?
Because of his speech-giving abilities, because he could use his language.
When you are in an interview, who has the advantage? The person who speaks
clearly or the person who can't?
I don't think it's the matter of English. It's the matter of language.

Also, sorry for not explaining what a nihilist believes in.
Nihilism is the belief that all values are worthless and the same,
that life has no meaning and no absolute. Everything is relative. Therefore,
all humans are the same of worth. Whether you are a murderer or
a saint, uneducated or educated, it doesn't make you better than another
because IMHO all existence are equal in value, living or not living.
I can dislike someone but I don't think I'm better than them, I don't think
my opinions are superior than theirs. My preference has nothing to do
with their actual value. There is no superior and inferior because there is
no absolute.

As for the matter of consistency, the fact is that when you are in a
debate, you must be consistent. An inconsistent argument is hardly a good
way to convince others of your cause. This entire thing stemmed from that
angry generalizing and I started off refuting the generalizing thing, which
is why I was unable to understand your change in attitude.
I'm sorry if you got offended but you've got to stop generalizing as I am
beginning to feel from your increasingly emotional replies that you are
now categorizing me with those "No Culture" smartasses you've been bashing
in the start.

Hell, I'm an inconsistent person too. I also don't think humans can ever be
consistent. It's just that I prefer to have a consistent debate and I can't
keep up with you.

: The thing I realized is that we are people of different mindset.
: Therefore, I respect your opinions and perspectives. And I won't waste my time
: now. It's your business and up to you
Calm down. Yeah, I already mentioned in my last post that people have
different opinions and I'm glad you have come to accept this. I'm beginning
to doubt you finished reading my last reply and I think you simply jumped
to conclusions since you're sounding so bitter and all. Did you read the whole
thing or did you only read the beginning?
Anyhow, no need to be bitter about not being able to convince me that
you are correct and not being able to persuade me that there's a
universal value. That's just life.

Don't say you wasted your time. I don't think I've wasted my time because
I enjoyed the debate up until it started to get a little personal.
It also makes your repsect of my opinions rather insincere and
I'm honestly quite hurt. Another reason I don't think you've wasted
your time is because by debating with me you are practising your writing.
I don't know where it all went wrong and why you suddenly got so pissed off
but oh well.

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→ celestial09:I don't compete or compare you in English.
→ celestial09:it's talk board. Not exam or essay even a serious
→ celestial09:debate. I only write what's in my mind.
→ celestial09:also, I am not attacking you either.
→ celestial09:it's merely an exchange in values.
推 celestial09:if our values are different, then just let it be.
→ celestial09:sorry if that offends you again, but please take
→ celestial09:it easy. Maybe after 20 years your values will
→ celestial09:change too. Who knows? :)
推 celestial09:Another thing I want to say is that I can
→ celestial09:definitely learn from your English, but not a bit
→ celestial09:about your ideas. As for your ideas, I don't want
→ celestial09:to waste my time. I can learn from more decent
→ celestial09:people. (sorry if you get offended again, but I
→ celestial09:won't lie to others or even to myself.)
→ celestial09:sorry if you feel hurt. I didn't mean so and
→ celestial09:didn't not categorize you with people who are
→ celestial09:depicable humans.I just don't agree with your idea
→ celestial09:bringing up with the Enlgish superiority does not
→ celestial09:refer to you either. I happen to say so in this
→ celestial09:reply,as I know some elites in TW brag about those
→ celestial09:next time I will be more careful when posting on
→ celestial09:English board, I know I jump through ideas as I
→ celestial09:didn't take it too seriously. I say what happen
→ celestial09:to came across my mind.
→ BloodLust801:You did learn something. You learned that not
→ BloodLust801:everyone agrees with you. I didn't expect you to
→ BloodLust801:agree with me or understand why I think this way
→ BloodLust801:anyway.