Re: lcd monitor manufacturer recommendation request

On Nov 20, 2009, at 8:40 PM, spellberg_robert wrote:

> i thank you, sir, also.
>
>
>
> Person, Roderick wrote:
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail] 
>>> ]
>>>
>>>
>>> > You don't have to do anything.
>>>
>>> [ slow burn, then, sigh ] that's the problem with the world, today.
>>> when people don't --have-- to do anything, people don't -- 
>>> learn_how-- to do
>>> anything.
>>> oops, i digress.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> You should also note that the refresh rate is pretty much
>>>> irrelevant for LCD displays.  While 85 Hz did make sense
>>>> for CRT monitors in order to avoid flickering, that's not
>>>> necessary with LCD monitors.  They won't flicker with
>>>> 60 Hz which is a very common refresh rate for LCD.
>>>
>>> this is useful to know.
>>> while i --have-- seen some that claim a f_vert up to 85_cps,
>>>  75 seems to be a popular top_end.
>>>
>> You could get an LCD monitor that only has the 15 pin connection,  
>> then you can
>> choose refresh rate and play with modelines. At least on the  
>> Viewsonic LCD I have
>> which is 5 years old I had to do that to get it working. That is if  
>> you really want to keep doing such things.
>
> it isn't that i --want-- to keep doing this; it is that i --can-- do  
> so, if i desire.
> for my 500ps, i had set up 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768, 1280x960 and  
> 1600x1200; all at 85.
> once i had tweaked these to my satisfaction, i left them alone.
> this was quite_a_few years ago.
> about two weeks ago, i decided to try improving on the 1280x960;
>  this led to adding 1440x1080, which i like very much, now that i  
> have used it for a_while.
>

An LCD is not like an CRT.  You cannot mess with resolution and expect  
it to look good, or even readable in some cases.  LCDs are meant to  
run at a native resolution and switching from them is not recommended  
in most cases.  In fact if you want to tweak much then a LCD is not  
for you.  You don't need to, and really should not, go outside  
manufacturer settings on an LCD.



> you see, i am a hardware guy.
> some fellows tweak gasoline engines.
> i met a machinist who built a steam_locomotive at 1:8 scale [ i  
> think it was a 4_8_4 ].
> i have a friend in the flower business [ roses ] who builds chairs  
> out of wood.
> if i had my druthers,
>  i'd be building small systems out of hcmos 8_bit  
> single_chip_controllers and msi
>  [ lately, i have become intrigued by energy_conversion ].
> another way to while_away the time is to
>  build hf_band receivers and [ < 5_watt ] transmitters out of  
> vacuum_tubes.
> winding coils is --very-- therapeutic.
>
>
>
>>>> My recommendation is to go to a shop, look at several
>>>> monitors and take the one you like best, irrespective
>>>> of the manufacturer.  Do *NOT* buy an LCD display that
>>>> you haven't seen with your own eyes before.  I'm serious.
>>>
>>> holy moses !!!
>>>
>>> you are reinforcing my long_held belief that lcd is a downgrade  
>>> from crt.

They are not downgrades, they are just different.  There are pros and  
cons to each.  Unless you are doing high end graphics work the main  
advantages of a CRT don't really apply.  Things have changed quite a  
bit.

--Larry
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