Re: lcd monitor manufacturer recommendation request

i thank you, sir.



Lawrence Sica wrote:
> 
> On Nov 20, 2009, at 8:40 PM, spellberg_robert wrote:
> 
>> i thank you, sir, also.
>>
>>
>>
>> Person, Roderick wrote:
>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [e-mail] 
>>>> [mailto:[e-mail] ]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > You don't have to do anything.
>>>>
>>>> [ slow burn, then, sigh ] that's the problem with the world, today.
>>>> when people don't --have-- to do anything, people don't -- 
>>>> learn_how-- to do
>>>> anything.
>>>> oops, i digress.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> You should also note that the refresh rate is pretty much
>>>>> irrelevant for LCD displays.  While 85 Hz did make sense
>>>>> for CRT monitors in order to avoid flickering, that's not
>>>>> necessary with LCD monitors.  They won't flicker with
>>>>> 60 Hz which is a very common refresh rate for LCD.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> this is useful to know.
>>>> while i --have-- seen some that claim a f_vert up to 85_cps,
>>>>  75 seems to be a popular top_end.
>>>>
>>> You could get an LCD monitor that only has the 15 pin connection,  
>>> then you can
>>> choose refresh rate and play with modelines. At least on the  
>>> Viewsonic LCD I have
>>> which is 5 years old I had to do that to get it working. That is if  
>>> you really want to keep doing such things.
>>
>>
>> it isn't that i --want-- to keep doing this; it is that i --can-- do  
>> so, if i desire.
>> for my 500ps, i had set up 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768, 1280x960 and  
>> 1600x1200; all at 85.
>> once i had tweaked these to my satisfaction, i left them alone.
>> this was quite_a_few years ago.
>> about two weeks ago, i decided to try improving on the 1280x960;
>>  this led to adding 1440x1080, which i like very much, now that i  
>> have used it for a_while.
>>
> 
> An LCD is not like an CRT.  You cannot mess with resolution and expect  
> it to look good, or even readable in some cases.  LCDs are meant to  run 
> at a native resolution and switching from them is not recommended  in 
> most cases.  In fact if you want to tweak much then a LCD is not  for 
> you.  You don't need to, and really should not, go outside  manufacturer 
> settings on an LCD.

this thought was a real eye_opener for me.
i must have spent an hour thinking things over,
   before reading any sub_sequent posts.

i got to thinking about the operation of some lcd_televisions that are owned by friends.
this was the start of my paradigm_shift.



>> you see, i am a hardware guy.
>> some fellows tweak gasoline engines.
>> i met a machinist who built a steam_locomotive at 1:8 scale [ i  think 
>> it was a 4_8_4 ].
>> i have a friend in the flower business [ roses ] who builds chairs  
>> out of wood.
>> if i had my druthers,
>>  i'd be building small systems out of hcmos 8_bit  
>> single_chip_controllers and msi
>>  [ lately, i have become intrigued by energy_conversion ].
>> another way to while_away the time is to
>>  build hf_band receivers and [ < 5_watt ] transmitters out of  
>> vacuum_tubes.
>> winding coils is --very-- therapeutic.
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> My recommendation is to go to a shop, look at several
>>>>> monitors and take the one you like best, irrespective
>>>>> of the manufacturer.  Do *NOT* buy an LCD display that
>>>>> you haven't seen with your own eyes before.  I'm serious.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> holy moses !!!
>>>>
>>>> you are reinforcing my long_held belief that lcd is a downgrade  
>>>> from crt.
>>>
> 
> They are not downgrades, they are just different.  There are pros and  
> cons to each.  Unless you are doing high end graphics work the main  
> advantages of a CRT don't really apply.  Things have changed quite a  bit.
> 
> --Larry

yes, they have.
from what i am reading else_where, not for the better, though.

rob

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