[討論] Mao & Kimmie's Flip Jump

[Leshalover (Waiting Vancouver 2010)]

在YouTube上發現有兩段影片在討論Flip
第一支 Flip-pre Rotation Comparison(Carolina, Mao Asada, Miki, Yu-Na, Kimmie)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX7bbGdMe6c&NR=1

最後說 Flip = LBI + TOE
       Loop = RMO + EDGE
但是Moa 和 Kimmie 似乎是用 LBI + EDGE => FLOOP ?


第二支 Mao Asada 's Weird Toe Jumps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3298gB938cQ&mode=related&search=

好像她的toe leg是等到轉了半圈以後才離地,而且用刃旋轉?

我沒學過溜冰,所以想問ㄧ下這樣的flip是真的有問題還是可以被接受的? @.@a
因為也有人這樣說:a lot of skaters do this. One half-turn of pre-rotation and
one quater-turn of under-rotation is acceptable for any jump. Basically, some
Triples are only 2 and one-quarter actual rotations in the air. This is VERY
common with toeloops that are done as the second jump of a Triple-Triple
combination.That's why the "grade of execution" mark exists.

所以...??






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推 litpepper:若mao的toe真是那樣就是偷圈了~不過偷圈的選手的確不少
→ litpepper:另~有些人的lutz和flip我不太會分~不知是否有flutz嫌疑?
推 tina1007:這種問題好像也發生在2002年的Sarah Hughes身上說
推 litpepper:Sarah Hughes的作弊是人盡皆知的事XD  想進一步了解的人
→ litpepper:可以去找她在2003世界賽的短曲來看~   一首短曲三個跳躍
→ litpepper:其中兩個就作弊~包含偷圈及flutz  也是不簡單