[乳摸] 關於小牛和籃網的RJ的動態。

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If Detroit is dealing, here are six trades that work

A visibly emotional Joe Dumars said last week that changes were coming in
Detroit after another painful loss in the Eastern Conference finals. Despite
the Pistons' regular-season success, Dumars was no longer happy with the
direction his franchise was heading.



Dumars isn't a man of many words. When he speaks, people listen. His team got
the message and so did everyone else in the league -- he was putting the core
of his team on the market.

He wants to rebuild his team while still competing for championships. In
particular, Dumars is looking to receive impact players while making the
Pistons younger.

For the past week, his phone has been ringing off the hook. Most teams covet
what the Pistons have -- seasoned veterans who put their team over personal
agendas and know how to win.

Dumars knows that, too, and he's driving a hard bargain.

"I will say this. We're not talking to teams about their second- and
third-best player," Dumars said on Tuesday. "My point has been, 'Look, if I'm
going to put these guys on the market, then don't waste your time talking
about guys you don't like.' That's where it is now. Nothing is imminent. But
I've talked to at least 10 teams."

He's sitting in a pretty good position. The Pistons have a number of assets
that they can put together in trades.

Chauncey Billups is an elite point guard whose contract, while long, is
pretty reasonable at $10 million per year. Richard Hamilton is a 20 ppg
scorer who has two years and $23 million left on his deal. Tayshaun Prince is
a rangy defender who can guard multiple positions on the floor. He has three
years, $30 million left on his deal. Rasheed Wallace may be an enigma, but
he's in the last year of his contract and could still be valuable for a
playoff team.



The only player off limits is rookie Rodney Stuckey, who's being groomed to
take over for Billups or Hamilton at guard.

So exactly what kind of deal might Dumars be able to pull off?

I spoke with a few executives around the league to get an idea of what
Detroit's opportunities are. Here are a few scenarios that could make sense
for both Dumars and his trading partners:

1. Denver's Carmelo Anthony, Chucky Atkins and No. 20 pick for Billups and
   Prince

2. Utah's Carlos Boozer, Ronnie Brewer, Jarron Collins and Morris Almond for
   Hamilton, Prince and Arron Afflalo

3. Dallas' Josh Howard for Tayshaun Prince or Richard Hamilton


4. Charlotte's Gerald Wallace, Adam Morrison, Sean May and No. 9 pick for
   Rasheed Wallace and Tayshaun Prince

5. New Jersey's Richard Jefferson, Nenad Krstic (via sign-and-trade) and No.10
   pick for Rasheed Wallace and Tayshaun Prince

6. Houston's Tracy McGrady and No. 25 pick for Rip Hamilton and Rasheed


以上是轉錄ESPN Chad Ford的文筆！
(不會縮址...抱歉先！)

當然重點是在第3和第5項！

首先先來評論NO.3：

和之前傳聞的的其實沒兩樣...但是...換RIP個人覺得還好...
換王子來實在是下下策...他的能力全部都是在剛好...並沒有非常突出的能力！

也就是說...要比全能沒KIDD好...比準度也沒司機好...

要比防守...豪兒不會處弱勢...可王子進攻能力(平均15分左右...)

切入也沒本來的豪兒強勢...反王子！(不是棒棒堂那個歐！)

整個就很不適合小牛就對了啦...換RIP不錯支持...換王子...反對！反對！再反對！

其實最主要是...長相問題...XD...(誰叫你們那年要淘汰籃網...不爽你們很久了！)

再來就NO.5囉：

完全反對...弱希蛙的能力...和普林斯比較其實只是一個投籃叫準...
一個較為防守面罷了...

絕不適合籃網！不如去賭小歐...

籌碼換現在的小歐應該可以...我是覺得寧願去賭小歐(起碼他適合現況沒禁區的籃網)
，換一個沒體能又愛頭外線防守馬馬虎虎的人來...真的不如去賭小歐...
 (換一個甚麼都可以但又沒有甚麼可以拿來主打的人...也很麻煩！)

Ford: RJ to Pistons Makes Sense

http://netsdaily.com/

不是沒人找了只能找這種冠軍隊被淘汰準備重整的球隊的球員！

Elton Brand目前也處於情況未明！再次強調...

交易來一些不適合的...將會比本來還糟...

學學塞爾迪克吧！湖人也是！找到對的人！才能有好的效果！

找到錯誤的人...給再多的時間！也是浪費！

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推 KIDD7576:謝謝分享~
→ popstarkirby:事實上3應該是小牛賺....Prince在活塞是第3~4得分點
→ popstarkirby:得分不高是正常的。不過沒實際打過也難評斷交易的優
→ popstarkirby:劣。Prince在市場上滿有價值倒是真的
→ popstarkirby:湖人那交易是可遇不可求了....如果山貓送小牛Okafor
→ popstarkirby:小牛也會瞬間變超強
推 woodtwoday:我覺得NO5也是籃網賺，基本上小克跟希蛙已經有些許差
→ woodtwoday:異了，RJ跟王子個人覺得沒有差太多，整體籃網應該是小
→ woodtwoday:賺，但是就感情理由，不換我也不反對，因為不會差太多
→ woodtwoday:若是賭小歐，我寧願用NO.5的方式
推 jazz123457:如果小牛換Hamilton那真的會變成正港的跳投部隊.......
→ happyeg:王子換豪兒...幹嘛??明明防守能力差不多！進攻面豪兒勝出
→ happyeg:，搞不懂為何要把85分的人去換個75分的人??
→ happyeg:至於NO.5...球風有差哪裡賺了???哈里斯&VC會適合防守型球
→ happyeg:風嗎??我不覺得耶...
→ happyeg:豪換RIP至少進攻端不會差到哪！雖說防守端會有問題！
→ happyeg:但是進攻端加上RIP球風問題！交易是還有談判的空間！
→ happyeg:但如果是去換王子...幹嘛??和KIDD搶全能的歐???
→ popstarkirby:相信我，這樣換的到的話小牛穩賺的。Prince被低估了
→ popstarkirby:就算他不適合小牛，也非常具有交易價值。重點是
→ popstarkirby:活塞應該是不會換，薪資不知道有沒有合就是
→ popstarkirby:只是這交易不會改善任何問題，對活塞也沒好處。所以
→ popstarkirby:看看就好了。
推 jazz123457:王子的防守應該是比豪兒還要好
推 chocobos:我會覺得王子的功能性強過豪兒耶 尤其是關鍵時類似季後賽
推 purplecoldly:Prince跟Kidd不會有衝突吧?而且Prince穩定性很高，
→ purplecoldly:比起Howard多靠單打，也許他會更適合Kidd也不一定。
推 familycut:Pirnce很強吧 被你講的一文不值
推 tatata:Prince很強吧 基本上是聯盟很頂尖的搖擺人大鎖了
→ tatata:小豪的防守 真的比不上Prince
→ tatata:而且活塞有時熄火 還是靠Prince撐住進攻火力的
→ tatata:切入 靠近籃框的小拋投 外線三分 其實都還不錯
推 tatata:小豪換RIP其實也不錯 不過這樣小牛的SF就不曉得要擺誰了
→ happyeg:誰跟你說得一文不值了...只是她和豪兒比！還有差距咧！
→ happyeg:別因為豪兒季末&季後賽的表現就否定他！他絕對有A+小前鋒
→ happyeg:的水準！王子不好意思...個人覺得最多最多就A！
→ happyeg:A+與A有差吧！
→ happyeg:豪兒也許如大家看法一樣防守不如王子！但進攻就有差距囉！
→ happyeg:然而防守個人覺得既使王子較強！但是能強個多少??差距頗進
→ happyeg:，而相較於進攻面！豪兒算是勝出不少歐！切入&跳投！
→ happyeg:急停&單打！豪兒再進攻方面勝出的我想比在防守面輸掉的還
→ happyeg:多...所以總評：豪兒是強於王子的！
→ happyeg:不要因為他是冠軍隊的加持就把王子捧上天！
→ happyeg:要把全聯盟小前鋒列出來比較！LBJ MATRIX 豪兒 C巴特勒
→ happyeg:安東尼 包皮 籃網RJ 個人覺得這些能力都在王子之上！
推 familycut:你有看過他的比賽嘛 你知道他的防守嗎 你知道活賽打法嘛
推 jazz123457:但是豪兒如果不能改變打法融入團隊即使他進攻再強對小
→ jazz123457:牛的進攻也是一種傷害也會讓kidd組織攻勢時傷腦筋,老實
→ jazz123457:說豪兒的確是聯盟中全能SF的其中之ㄧ,但他的打法老實說
→ jazz123457:我覺得想起流川楓.........
推 popstarkirby:樓上說的沒錯。不過老實說...目前看來Kidd的組織力
→ popstarkirby:影響也不深就是。Howard只有改變打法或走人這兩條路
→ popstarkirby:可以選了。
→ popstarkirby:就算Josh每場20分7籃板，Kidd每晚10助攻，最後輸球都
→ popstarkirby:是沒意義的。
→ happyeg:回familycut大！就是因為看過幾場！所以才下此定論...
→ happyeg:沒錯！豪兒整體評論下來優於普林斯王子！
→ happyeg:85分與80分！雖然很接近！但是！就是有差！
→ happyeg:我很清楚！王子是班蛙之後活塞最重要的防守武器！在活塞防
→ happyeg:手體系下王子扮演著很重要的角色...這我知道...但我現在是
→ happyeg:再講「整體上誰比較強」！再強調一次！是豪兒比較強！
→ happyeg:pop大講的有理！但是??為什麼要因為想交易而交易...
→ happyeg:明明最適合換來的是MATRIX...幹嘛硬是想交易而交易呢??
→ happyeg:既然目標很難到手...那我是覺得再換也未必能換到同等價值
→ happyeg:豪兒的球員...那不如不要換...反正有整個暑假的時間可以去
→ happyeg:摩合...
→ happyeg:而且加上換了教練囉...個人是覺得...小牛今年的「對外」
→ happyeg:如果無法達到目的...那乾脆以不變來順應萬變...
→ popstarkirby:個人是覺得小牛在現在西區不變的話...相對是變弱...
→ popstarkirby:反正就如同我上面說的..不是補強就是交易了
→ popstarkirby:小牛這暑假只有7張合，約表示有8個位置可以選。
→ popstarkirby:但這7張合約已經用掉80M了...所以沒薪資空間了
→ popstarkirby:要說的話，應該說Howard球風比較適合小牛，但打不出
→ popstarkirby:東西還是沒用，所以看球隊怎樣了
推 kaede0711:小王子絕對不比豪兒差啊...而且如樓上所說要改最好全改
→ kaede0711:而且豪兒這樣打跟kidd完全搭不起來不換就看新教練怎樣調