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http://0rz.tw/GrhNx (As I said last week, I don't believe in the concept of the jinx. Except in no-hitters. And when your boy is spitting game at a dame.) 如我之前所說 我不相信所謂的詛咒 除非自己不努力放棄了比賽 Okay, so Ricky Rubio is in the draft. His agent Dan Fegan asserts that he'll stay in. Remember the motive: Fegan wants Rubio in, so of course he'll tell Chad Ford today that he'll be staying in. But all the other indicators -- the so-called weakness of the lottery, the dearth of international prospects, the momentum from Beijing, the looming collective bargaining agreement -- have pointed to this outcome for a long time, so it seems more valuable, more true. OK 所以RUBIO確定參選了 他的經紀人Dan Fegan斷言他會參選到底 但從其他方面來看 以往一直被認為是樂透區選秀的弱勢 外籍球員未來發展性的不足 從RUBIO北京奧運會上的一聲平地驚雷起 還有一直被這次的選秀會討論者 兩者對比之下 顯得RUBIO更加有價值 更珍貴 There has been debate, and there will continue to be debate, on whether the Kings, if so lucky to acquire the No. 1 pick, should choose Blake Griffin or Rubio. These matters can continue to be debated -- I have no answer there. Griffin is an amazing athlete and rebounder; this team needs athletes and rebounding. Rubio is a point guard with star potential. This team needs a better point guard, and needs some stars. The arguments can, and in fact should, rage. 這裡有個爭論 而且會一直爭論下去 如果國王得到PICK1 會選RUBIO OR BLAKE BLAKE是個有驚人體能和強勢籃板的傢伙 這是國王目前也很缺乏的 RUBIO是個有天份的控球 國王也正好缺少這樣的人 But in my mind, there's no question which direction Geoff Petrie goes if this situation arises: he's taking Rubio. 但在我心中 PETRIE最後無疑還是會挑RUBIO Let's start with a quote from Petrie's interview with Sam Amick, published today: 我們看看PETRIE之前的訪問是如何說的 Sometimes the conventional wisdom is right, and sometimes it's not. 有時傳統的選擇是對的 有時則相反 In judging the worth or value of Griffin, you're basically putting conventional wisdom on trial. The consensus is and has been that Griffin is the best pro prospect in amateur or international basketball. Frankly, it will continue that way until Treviso at least, and probably until next October. He will be the preseason Rookie of the Year, whether he's picked #1, #2 or #10. He is the consensus' #1 pick. 在審視BLAKE對國王的價值之前 最好拿掉一些成見會比較好 外界一般認為 BLAKE會是業餘球賽跟外籍球員之中 那顆最閃耀的星星 我想 一直到季前賽為止 他的評價將不會改變 不管他是否是第一順位 他就是外界公認最好的那一個 How often has Petrie matched consensus? Jason Williams at #7? No. Peja Stojakovic at #14? No. Hedo Turkoglu at #16? No. Kevin Martin at #26? No. Jason Thompson at #12? No. You could argue that Spencer Hawes was a "consensus pick" at #10, and that both Quincy Douby and Francisco Garcia fell in their expected ranges. Gerald Wallace and Tariq Abdul-Wahad ... somewhere in the middle. The point is that Petrie is not terribly fond of the consensus, at least not in the mid-lottery or mid to late first round. He makes decisions regardless of popular opinion. 但 PETRIE哪次遵循傳統過? JW原本該在第七順位被選中嗎? PEJA原本被預期在14順位中選嗎? HEDO的16順位? JT跟KM的12跟26順位? 你可能會說HAWES10順位是符合期待的順位 還有DOUBY GARCIA都低於原本期待的順位被國王撿走 還有G挖跟Abdul-Wahad的中段順位………… Anyway 但至少我們知道PETRIE是不隨便向傳統靠攏的 至少在第一輪樂透中段或是第一 輪後段是如此 Will that translate to the #1 pick, or #2, 3 or 4? Will it translate for a 17-win team that needs to get better tout de suite? Will it translate to a team hemorrhaging cash? We don't know. No one knows. 選秀當天會做交易嗎? 換取球員或現金? 這我們不得而知 Looks at the major big men Petrie has sought out. Vlade Divac, a skilled passer. Chris Webber, a skilled passer and shooter. Brad Miller, a skilled passer and shooter. Spencer Hawes, a skilled shooter. Jason Thompson, a skilled passer and shooter. Griffin is many things ... but he has not shown himself to be a terribly skilled passer, and he's definitely not a shooter. He is not a Petrie big man. That doesn't immediately disqualify him, of course. You can't disqualify that kind of beast, nor would you want to. But he is not Petrie's Weird Science creation, that's for sure. 看看PETRIE喜歡的長人類型 DIVAC 會傳球 WEBBER&大米 投籃手感柔軟&會傳球 HAWES 投籃手感柔軟 JT 投籃手感柔軟&會傳球 BLAKE? 他還沒證明他能傳球 而且他也不太可能是個好的投籃者 他不是PETRIE的菜 不是輕視他的野獸威能 只是PETRIE不尬意這類的 I keep looking back to 1998, the Williams draft. J-Wil wasn't a good shooter coming out of college. He wasn't necessarily a leader, or smart. He quite certainly was not a steady hand, or a great defender. Or a medicore defender. He had none of those classic point guard traits, none of that gravitas. He was a showman, that's it. A flashy, speedy, reckless, crazy as Natt showman. 回到1998 JWILL被選進來前在大學就不是個好的投籃者 他不是個夠聰明的球員跟領袖 他也不甚穩定或是有好的防守 他沒有這些傳統後衛的特徵 他是個喜歡秀的小子 是個速度快 瘋狂 不計後果的SHOWMAN The team was coming off its worst season in a decade. It needed help. Remember -- the draft came before Webber, before even Vlade. And Petrie took Jason Freaking Williams. You see where his priorities lay, yeah? 國王正在最低迷的時期 這需要救世主 記得之前的WEBBER DIVAC JWILL 是如何被PETRIE看中的原因 大家該知道他的優先考慮是什了吧 Rubio is the showman ... with gravitas. I don't see how Petrie walks away, even for a special talent like Griffin. I just can't imagine it. RUBIO也是個SHOWMAN 但是他更正經一點 我認為PETRIE不可能放棄他 即便是有 BLAKE這個強大誘惑 我不能想像他沒選RUBIO -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 61.224.26.151
Yocoldagain:好! 05/01 13:22
garcia1114:從西區強權變成缺東缺西..只有心酸而已..今年加油好嗎! 05/01 13:32
eliczone:小市場球隊就是這樣 沒辦法從自由市場補大物進來 只能靠 05/01 15:25
eliczone:自己選或者交易 這樣子其實能夠操作的不是很多 05/01 15:26
eliczone:不管從隊型或者從Petrie的喜好 他選Rubio機會非常大 05/01 15:26
hunight:之前的消息 據說有幾位樂透球隊的GM是不想在前段順位押白 05/01 15:40
hunight:人 即使是Rubio也一樣 得到機率又大了一些XDDDD 05/01 15:41
domego:小聲問:該年爐主抽到最糟的選秀順序是?選了誰? 05/01 15:49
kckt:有錯請指正...我記得爐主好像有保護到至少有#4...所以應該是 05/01 17:10
kckt:91金塊#4-木桶伯,93小牛#4-Mashburn,97灰熊#4-A.Daniels, 05/01 17:11
kckt:01公牛#4-E.Curry,07灰熊#4-M.Conley 05/01 17:12
kckt:然後自1985年起只有4隻爐主中狀元籤..但好消息是其中2次發生 05/01 17:15
kckt:在近年分別是03-King James還有隔年的魔獸~ 05/01 17:16
fox0922:Rubio說不管選秀結果怎樣 他都不會回DKV了@_@ 參選定了 05/01 18:59
Knicks:前三順位抽籤,接下來照戰績排。 05/01 20:47
Knicks:所以最差的情況就是前三名都被別人抽走我們排第四 05/01 20:48
pttsac:是樂透區全部抽吧 只是我們有前四保證?? 05/01 22:35
GodEyes:是全抽吧 公牛去年不是樂透區也抽到狀元啦~ 05/01 22:39
kckt:公牛是樂透區阿,33勝49敗倒數第9 ~ 用1.7%的機率抽中 05/01 22:59
eliczone:對 是樂透區全抽 爐主是保證前4 以此類推 05/01 23:06
eliczone:如果全抽的話 那要是拿到冠軍又抽到狀元不是臉都綠了 05/01 23:06
kikijuice:抽到狀元的臉不會綠 是其他GM會綠XD 05/01 23:26
pttsac:抽到狀元的是心臟病發吧 爽到升天了 XDD 05/01 23:28
Duncan7406:選秀真的是很心機 想去年熱火Riley說的話都不太能信= = 05/01 23:59
Knicks:誤會了,我不是說戰績倒數三名抽籤,我是說選秀順位前三 05/02 17:06
Knicks:用抽籤的,樂透區(沒進季後賽)才能抽 <-我以為大家都知道 05/02 17:07
Knicks:因為我們是戰績最差,所以最倒楣的情況就是前三順位都沒 05/02 17:15
Knicks:抽到,接下來照戰績排自然是國王優先,是前四保證沒錯。 05/02 17:15
Knicks:以此類推戰績倒數第二有前五保證,倒數第三有前六保證 05/02 17:17
domego:因為小弟都第一次當爐主,所以才開始注意選秀規則,謝啦~ 05/02 20:24