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http://evilcowtowninc.wordpress.com/2009/05/08/lower-1st-round-ramblings/ Since the Kings have the 23rd and 31st overall pick, it stands to reason that they could get a rotation player, or two, out of this deal. I like that. The Kings need more talent, and if it’s through 3 cheap young talented players, so be it. I’ve heard of worse things. 國王這次有三個選秀 如果都浪費掉 那真的是最糟糕的事 I’m going to assume, partly because I’m a jerkoff know-it-all asshole who believes in the power of his own self importance, in that the Kings take Ricky Rubio, or another G like Tyreke Evans or Brandon Jennings. Because of this, the Kings will be looking at depth for their front line at their lower picks. They might even consider taking another PG or another SG or SF. It’s hard to say. 我想去猜測 因為我自認是個無所不知且認為自己還蠻重要的混蛋 OK 所以國王前半有可能挑到RUBIO 建寧 EVANS 的後衛 那後半就”比較可能” 去挑長人 Currently, DX has the Kings taking Daye at the 23rd slot. I think it’s a stretch to say that the Kings would take him, but hey, whatever. Fanhouse’s Tom Ziller (yes he blogs at StR AND Fanhouse–also BallHype–and guest blogs other places too) had an interesting mock draft that had the Kings taking Danny Green, a 2/3 swing type from Carolina. NBA Draft.net has the Kings taking Gani Lawal. (They also have the Kings taking Taj Gibson at the 31st overall pick.) 目前 DRAFT EXPRESS說國王會選Daye 的確他是個好選擇 但是Fanhouse’s Tom Ziller卻說我們會選搖擺人Danny Green NBA DRAFT NET說我們該拿Gani Lawal跟Taj Gibson I like the idea of Lawal even though he’s very raw. He’s also athletic, and because the Kings have 2 talented young pivot’s in Spencer Hawes and Jason Thompson, they can afford to look at players who are smaller and are probably more simply prototpyical PF’s. It’s true that every team would love to have 4 guys who can play 2 positions at the PF/C position, but that’s simply not how the real world works. It’s a luxury for the Kings to have 2 talented young core pieces in Hawes and Thompson who can play the PF/C. While I’ve argued repeatedly that the Rubio/Griffin debate is just simply about upside and who has the greater chance of being a franchise player, or getting close to it at the very least, this debate is a bit easier. Needs comes into play here because it should. The Kings need to get deeper up front, and they need more athleticism, low post defense, shot blocking and rebounding. Players like Lawal and Gibson could help. So could Derrick Brown. 可以選Lawal雖然他還沒成熟 但我們有兩隻老大哥JT跟HAWES頂著 可以選些矮PF跟傳統打法的PF 每隊有四個可以打兩個位置(PF ,C)的長人是很好 但這只是理想 已經有JT跟HAWES 夠奢侈了 不像選RUBIO OR BLAKE那樣困難 國王需要有體能 有低位防守 會蓋鍋會抓版的PF Lawal Gibson Derrick Brown 三人都能幫忙到國王 My personal feeling is that rolling the dice at this lower point of the draft will help the Kings more than just taking the BPA. If the BPA is a role playing SF, than how does that really help the Kings? In 2005, the Kings left David Lee on the board because they wanted a multi-positional talent who could handle the ball in Garcia. They also believed that Kenny Thomas and Brian Skinner could capably man the position. I won’t second guess the decision, but now, the need to get a player who could develop at the power position is needed. So the point is, I guess, that there is precedent here. 我想這次後段的選秀可能放手一博比保守好 譬如 如果後段順位最好的球員是SF 那國王選來做什 已經一堆SF了 沒用嘛 回想當年 國王放掉DAVID LEE去選GARCIA因為我們需要會控球的SF 然後相信皮膚人跟KT能頂住禁區 不是想是後諸葛 只是有前例在前 後段我們這次應該選PF Lawal, Gibson and Brown don’t need to head this debate. I wouldn’t mind if the Kings looked at BJ Mullens, but I would mind if they moved up to get him. Why waste a resource on a player like Mullens? If he drops to you that’s one thing. Petrie won’t necessarily leave Mullens on the board if that’s the case. But, again, this is BJ Mullens who is dropping like a stone. He’s a perfect project player for the Kings that they need to consider heavily if they want to develop a quality rotation of bigger players. 不像LAWAL GIBSON BRON的問題 七呎長人BJ Mullens掉下來PETRIE要不要撿? 我不介意觀察一下BJ Mullens 但如果國王真的想追他我就很介意 為何要浪費一個選秀順位選BJ Mullens? 沒有必要 如果他被PETRIE撿起來 那原因可能是國王打算加強長人的陣容深度 Beyond those 4, Tyler Hansborough might not be a bad idea at all if he drops to the 31st overall pick. Or, maybe you can trade down and get him with a lower 2nd round pick. Either way, Hansborough has had a successful NCAA career at UNC, and is not likely to be more than a hustling role player big. The Kings could use one of those too. Hell, Hansborough and Mullens might be the best mix of hustle role player and upside that they might get the best out of both. The Kings aren’t good enough to throw any possiiblities away. That’s why I won’t discount Hansborough even though his physical abilities are not considered high end talent. There is absolutely no shame in that. (Of course, some team in the later 1st round might take Hansborough for the same reason.) 上述四位外 如果31順位能選到苦工之王 漢堡 也是不賴 漢堡跟Mullens 一個代表苦工界的霸主 一個代表潛力長人的希望 各擅所長 國王不該放棄任何機會 即使漢堡沒有很好的體能 苦工界的霸主 還是霸主! 沒什好丟臉的! Milan Macvan is a guy who might be best served taking in the 2nd round (especially if Petrie is able to get multiple picks in the 2nd round somehow someway). Milan Macvan也許是第二輪的大黑馬喔 如果PETRIE第二輪想多抓幾隻黑馬的話要注意他 Victor Claver is a player who might not last past the 2nd round because some team in the late 1st round could easily take a flier on him (OKC, Chicago, San Antonio, LA or Cleveland could all work here). Victor Claver不太可能掉到二輪 因為其他球隊會想要他 Omri Casspi is not a player I’m greatly interested in because he seems to be a total SF/PF tweener (similar to several other players I won’t mention here). I think the Kings have enough of those already in Donte Greene and Andres Nocioni, and as such, there’s no real great need in this area. Still, if you think one of them can make a real impact that trading either guy is worth doing so, then I suppose this should be up for consideration. OMRI我不是很有興趣 他有點像SF PF雙挑的球員 國王類似的已經有NOCI跟GREENE了 除非他們兩其中之一被交易 我才想選 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 61.224.36.165
RonArtest93:明日待續 05/13 00:17
※ 編輯: RonArtest93 來自: 61.224.36.165 (05/13 00:18)
pennykidd:這次選個西班牙連線或許是最好的方式 我不想再來矮PF了 05/13 00:49
hihi29:再選兩隻禁區的話 表示Diogu不會續簽了嗎? 05/13 01:07
larson:苦工界的霸主應該還是苦工吧? 05/13 01:34
tahikuro:漢堡的苦工在NBA的作用我不相信 應該不如柯林森 05/13 02:23
tahikuro:苦工界的大霸主太抬舉他 比起李實在差距很大 05/13 02:24
tahikuro:Danny Green不值國王的順位 05/13 02:24
tahikuro:Lawal Gibson Derrick Brown可以滿足國王要求 05/13 02:25
tahikuro:真正看到鬼了 他們什麼特質符合了?? 05/13 02:25
tahikuro:體能嗎 但是以NBA的水準並非頂尖 不到體能可以產生影響 05/13 02:27
tahikuro:的強力程度 另外3人沒有什麼低位 05/13 02:28
tahikuro:Gibson是小號瘦長PF Brown是一個6"6 偏向SF的球員 05/13 02:29
tahikuro:本文推薦的人選恐怕才是真正浪費國王的順位 05/13 02:31
a00779928:個人覺得 PF 是最適合不過的 SF已經有NO 和小賈了 05/13 08:27
a00779928:不然 純 中鋒 也OK 長人萬歲 05/13 08:28
santabrelai:<(__ __)> 05/13 09:53
eliczone:那邊是低位防守 而不是進攻...簡單來說選他們就是要來當 05/13 10:13
eliczone:苦工的 他們體能也許不能算頂尖 但或許還是有作用 而且那 05/13 10:14
eliczone:句並不是能夠滿足要求 而是「也許會有幫助」 意思差很多 05/13 10:14
bigdeal:could help那邊翻譯沒差很大啦,意思就是他們符合國王需求 05/13 11:13
bigdeal:they could help Kings-> they satisfy Kings' needs 05/13 11:15
※ 編輯: RonArtest93 來自: 61.224.35.195 (05/13 11:35)
eliczone:恩 意思上是差不多 但語氣上有差 一個是可能有幫助 一個 05/13 11:41
eliczone:意思是說他們就是答案的感覺 只是肯定程度上的差別 05/13 11:41
hunight:我個人看好適合國王的矮內線只有Patterson一個 但他已返校 05/13 12:01
RonArtest93:我們可以提供在職進修 05/13 12:03
RonArtest93: come on baby 05/13 12:04
hunight:#23原本可以考慮的還有Varnado 但他也撤回申請了 05/13 12:05
hunight:如果跟漢堡相比 以隊形考量 可能Pendergraph還比較好用 05/13 12:08
hunight:#31倒是可以考慮Heytvelt或是選個Marjanovic來養 05/13 12:10
hunight:#23如果沒有好的人選 應該可以考慮賣一賣 05/13 12:11
eliczone:那時候就有在傳火箭想要買回去!!! 05/13 12:18
horse5288:選誰都OK 能讓國王變強最重要 05/13 19:11
tahikuro:低位防守?布朗是一個6"6的SF Gibson是體能更差 身材更小 05/14 00:50
tahikuro:威可克絲 那有什麼低為防守 Pendergraph應該是落選 05/14 00:50
tahikuro:國王並不需動用自己的順位給他 05/14 00:51
tahikuro:Gibson Brown對於國王禁區沒有什作用 05/14 00:52
tahikuro:Lawal不錯 但是他現在介於PF/SF之間 身材也是稍微小點 05/14 00:53
tahikuro:而且他需要用心培養 恐怕不是即戰力 05/14 00:54
tahikuro:乾脆31挑選華盛頓賭一下 至少身材合格 05/14 00:55
tahikuro:Craig Brackins假如棄學也是可以考慮... 05/14 01:07
tahikuro:23位還有Mullens不選就是笨蛋 05/14 01:09
tahikuro:真是想要挑選NCAA的PF 最好賭Michael Washington 05/14 01:18
tahikuro:這個傢伙練起來作用絕對高於上述那些PF 05/14 01:19
tahikuro:Milan Macvan很強 但是他來了 豪斯可以幹什麼 負責火鍋嗎 05/14 01:25
tahikuro:國王應該不需要他 05/14 01:26
eliczone:選人應該不能因為目前狀況而不選強的 先選再說 awes能幹 05/14 09:53
eliczone:嘛那是後來教練團需要擔心的 05/14 09:54
hunight:Washington已經返校了 Mullens我不覺得他會落到#23 05/14 12:26