作者skymay (隨遇而安)
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標題[外電] 尼克球員要的是愛的教育?
時間Sun May 13 16:14:22 2012
Phil Who? Knicks Will Probably Play It Safe
For a decade, the Knicks conducted business like a crazed QVC addict with a
stack of limitless credit cards — lunging at every shiny object, no matter
the price or the consequences.
Instant gratification came in the form of Isiah Thomas and Larry Brown,
Stephon Marbury and Eddy Curry, Amar’e Stoudemire and Carmelo Anthony. If
the name could light up a marquee, the Knicks were buying, whatever the cost.
Yet suddenly, with the franchise at a crossroads, Madison Square Garden has
gone inexplicably conservative.
Sometime soon (possibly this week), the Knicks are expected to remove Mike
Woodson’s interim title and make him the permanent head coach.
在尼克賽季結束之後,敲定下賽季主教練人選的任務正式擺上了日程。
據透露,可能不久之後(或許就在這個星期),尼克將把臨時主教練邁
克-伍德森扶正。
They will do so without making a single bid for the shiniest object on the
market: Phil Jackson, with his 11 sparkly championship rings.
如果做出這個舉動,那就意味著:尼克放棄了候選者菲爾-傑克遜(禪師)
,這位擁有11枚總冠軍戒指的著名教頭。
The Knicks had not contacted Jackson as of last week, according to people
close to the Hall of Fame coach. There is no guarantee that he would take the
job, but “he would listen,” one said.
直到上個星期,尼克遲遲未和“禪師”傑克遜接觸。一位消息人士稱,傑
克遜也不一定會接受這份工作,不過「他會聽取報價」。
Yet James L. Dolan, the Garden chairman, apparently does not intend to call.
He has already begun preliminary talks with Woodson on a multiyear extension,
according to people with ties to the Garden.
是的,尼克老闆詹姆斯-杜蘭看上去並不准備向禪師提交報價。據尼克內部
人士透露,杜蘭已經和伍德森就續約問題進行了初步的談判。
Woodson, a passionate teacher and motivator, is a perfectly reasonable choice.
作為一名有熱情的導師,伍德森有理由獲得這一職位。
The Knicks rallied under his leadership, going 18-6 to finish the season
before getting crushed by the Miami Heat in the first round of the playoffs.
He has the strong support of Anthony, Stoudemire and Tyson Chandler, the
Knicks’ three stars.
在伍德森的帶領下,尼克以18勝6負的出色戰績結束了例行賽,他個人也獲
得了尼克“三巨頭”——甜瓜、拳王和阿罵的強烈支持。
He has a solid résumé, having previously molded a young and impetuous
Atlanta Hawks roster into a stout playoff team. He is well liked and
respected around the league. No one will fault the Knicks for hiring him.
Woodson is the safe, conventional choice. Jackson, though infinitely more
successful, might be the riskier option, which could explain Dolan’s sudden
conservative streak.
Jackson is an iconoclast, a force of nature who marches to the beat of his
own bongos. He would clash spectacularly with the Garden’s staid corporate
culture, which is reason enough for Dolan to hesitate and for Jackson (if he
were offered the job) to balk.
Jackson can be brutally candid, a trait that is frowned upon at the Garden,
where “see no evil, speak no evil” is official policy. On any given day,
Jackson might publicly upbraid his players, needle opponents, insult a city
or tweak the commissioner’s office. He would violate the Garden’s infamous
news media rules within 32 seconds of his first news conference. He would
eventually write a book exposing the internal politics and hypocrisy.
And Jackson would learn, as Donnie Walsh did, that promises of autonomy —
whether in choosing personnel or choosing what to say — will ultimately
ring hollow.
相比於“禪師”,伍德森是一個更加安全、方便的選擇。傑克遜可能更加
“殘忍”,可能會在當選之後某天於媒體面前公開指責手下的球員們。不
過,傑克遜即便是在主教練位置,他在人員選擇以及情緒表達方面可能也
頗受限制,這一點唐尼 -沃爾什深有體會,畢竟生殺大權是在老闆杜蘭手
中。
There will apparently be no such tension with Woodson. He withheld any
criticism of his players throughout the five-game thrashing by the Heat. On
Thursday, when asked his parting message to the players, Woodson responded as
if reading from an MSG employee manual. “Nothing negative,” he said. “It’
s all positive.”
伍德森可能更加“友善”。在和熱火的五場比賽中,尼克球員們犯下的錯
誤,全部被伍德森攬下來; 近一次記者問 Woodson 給球員們本季的的最
終評語或者是臨別一語 (parting message) Woodson 好像讀著MSG員工手
冊一般回答:「...一切都很正面,沒有負面的。」
That same day, word leaked that Woodson had fired his longtime agent — at
Dolan’s urging. The agent, Joe Glass, also represents Brown, who won an
$18.5 million settlement after Dolan fired him in 2006.
Keith Glass, the agent’s son, who has worked with his father in representing
Brown and Woodson, was stunned.
“I received a phone call from him, basically saying that he had to make a
change,” Keith Glass said, adding: “Mike deserves the job. I’m trying to
take the high road here. And I certainly won’t be asking anyone at the
Garden for directions.”
同一天,伍德森解雇了自己長期以來的經紀人——在杜蘭的慫恿之下。這位
經紀人喬-格拉斯還曾代理過布朗。基什-格拉斯是喬-格拉斯的兒子, 和父
親一起作為布朗和伍德森的代理人,聽聞這個消息後震驚不已。「我接到了
來自伍德森的電話,他告訴我想要做出改變了。」基什說,「邁克(伍德森
)稱得上這份工作。」
Although Woodson has yet to hire a new agent, word is already circulating
that he will choose Creative Artists Agency, the same group that represents
two team executives (Mark Warkentien and Allan Houston), as well as Anthony.
It is hard to imagine anyone telling Jackson who should represent him. It is
hard to imagine Jackson being told what to do, period. That strong will and
outsize personality are precisely what the Knicks need right now.
很難想像傑克遜會讓別人來幫他選擇經紀人,很難想像傑克遜會聽從別人的
意見。這種強烈的自我意識和外露的個性,正是尼克所需的。
Michael Jordan was once a swaggering, single-minded scorer like Anthony.
Jackson persuaded him to embrace a team-oriented game, and the Chicago Bulls
won six championships. Jackson coaxed Kobe Bryant, another headstrong star,
into trusting his teammates. They won five titles together in Los Angeles.
麥可喬丹也曾是自我意識嚴重的球星,如今的甜瓜也是如此,傑克遜說服喬
丹成為一名團隊球員,公牛拿到了六屆冠軍;科比 -布萊恩特同樣如此,傑
克遜改造了他,並幫助湖人拿到了五屆冠軍。
Anthony, who had more turnovers (14) than assists (11) in the playoffs, is
overdue for an epiphany. And no one manages egos better than Jackson.
甜瓜在季後賽中的失誤次數(14次)多於助攻(11次),看上去和初期的喬
丹以及科比類似。在調整球員的心理方面,沒有人能比“禪師”做得更好了
。
There is near-universal agreement around the N.B.A. that Anthony needs to
become a more dedicated passer, but no one around the Knicks will say so.
Woodson made his mark by demanding accountability, and he forged the Knicks
into a superior defensive team. But he never imposed the same standards on
offense, as Anthony, J. R. Smith and Baron Davis were permitted to dominate
the ball, burn the shot clock and fling contested jumpers — sometimes from
28 feet — without consequence.
伍德森能將尼克變成防守強隊,但是在進攻端,他難以做到同樣的事情:甜
瓜、JR和BD分走了球權,耗完進攻時間,並持續不停地使用跳投進攻——有
時候就在三分線附近。
Lacking job security, Woodson let Anthony indulge his worst habits. He
withheld public criticism after Stoudemire recklessly smashed a
fire-extinguisher door, slicing open his hand. He called out Smith for his
sagging pants but never for his shot selection, which was abominable.
With a contract in hand, perhaps Woodson will tighten the reins and demand
more from his stars. With the luxury of a training camp, perhaps he will find
a way to blend Stoudemire’s and Anthony’s talents. He has earned the
opportunity to try.
為了保住工作,伍德森由著甜瓜暴露最糟糕的習慣。當合約到手後,伍德森
可能“拉緊韁繩”,對球隊中的球星們要求更加嚴格。
Meanwhile, an unemployed coach with 11 championship rings, a crate of incense
and a fondness for Zen teachings is relaxing in Playa Del Rey, waiting for
the phone to ring. Or not.
原文新聞:
http://ppt.cc/i0ph
翻譯來源:
http://sports.163.com/12/0513/08/81CF810T00051CA1.html
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真正的考驗,合約到手後才開始?! XD
話說在尼克想要拿到先發位置,好像真的不是看教練,而是看杜蘭
連教練的經紀人選擇也要看杜蘭... 尼克教練真不是普通的難當...
武僧OS:想要先發別找我,要看暑假過後老闆開給你多少價 (誤XD
另外我真的覺得武僧對尼克球員有一種愛的教育的感覺
1.當初五連勝之後的那一敗,武僧一肩扛,說尼克沒能拿下這一勝是他的問題
2.當瓜被質疑高得分始終讓尼克贏不了球時,武僧說不是瓜的問題,是
沒人能適時跳出來和瓜一起得分,所以不可以怪瓜
(印象中大致是這意思)
3.阿罵季後賽做了傻事受傷後,武僧請球迷原諒阿罵,別噓阿罵...
4.另外還有場上的JR做錯事,武僧看起來都很兇的指責,但還是不吝惜給予重任 XD
http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2012/05/13/sports/YBECK.html
只是頑皮的小孩需要愛的教育,乖小孩也是需要愛的教育的喔,希
望武僧可以平均分配 XD 紐約是個不留情又殘忍的地方,難怪球員
們待越久好像越需要愛一樣 XD
(因為被罵是一件習以為常的事?)
只是這樣的包容和愛的教育也不知是好是壞,可能要等待下賽季武
僧幫大家解答了 XD 我想不OK的話,杜蘭應該也不會留情的 XD
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→ etintin:不過紐約主教練這個頭銜似乎也少有風光卸任 每個都被罵 05/13 16:22
推 PiZ1129:武僧:等我合約拿到手的第一件事.就是把多利多滋全都下架 05/13 18:25
推 s891050:瓜瓜:我討厭樓上QQ 05/13 19:08
推 PiZ1129:Q-Q 05/13 20:01
推 bluebabe:喜歡 Woodson 的帶心,但也期待他有另一番破與立 05/13 20:10
→ bluebabe:"when asked his parting message to the players" 05/13 20:11
→ bluebabe:那段講的是,但記者問 Woodson 給球員們本季的的最終評語 05/13 20:11
→ bluebabe:或者是臨別一語 (parting message) 05/13 20:12
推 bluebabe:"Woodson 好像讀著MSG員工手冊一般回答: 05/13 20:15
→ bluebabe:...一切都很正面,沒有負面的" 05/13 20:15
非常感謝bluebabe大 已修正^^
推 gogobala5566:melo請減肥 還大家一個精壯甜瓜 05/13 20:53
※ 編輯: skymay 來自: 111.242.2.119 (05/13 21:08)
推 ab12:樓上是幫Woodson說的嗎? 05/13 21:09
推 ab32110:既然你號稱帶心的話請給菜鳥一點耐心也不要忘記LF == 05/13 21:23
推 ab12:"I felt like I was in phenomenal shape "melo said.就不減 05/13 21:25
推 ab12:不過我蠻佩服Woodson的是JR到他手上怎麼那麼乖 05/13 21:29
→ ab12:在場上犯錯都好像很害怕等下被Woodson罵的感覺 05/13 21:29
→ ab12:跟他以前壞小孩的情形差太多了,Woodson是怎麼做到的? 05/13 21:30
推 mobaby:推ab32110大>< 05/13 21:44
→ skymay:我覺得LF最大的問題是不夠有自信,我也不是想替武僧說話,但 05/13 21:55
→ skymay:像JR的表現也頗受爭議,但武僧還是很愛用,而LF也是差不多就 05/13 21:56
→ skymay:都算不是很穩定的球員,只是JR的自信心真的很夠就是了 05/13 21:57
→ skymay:其實武僧也不是沒稱讚過LF #1FTzcp1b 像這篇他也說過LF的 05/13 21:57
→ skymay:防守很好,也替他說過話,但LF的表現確實沒很穩定,而信心又不 05/13 21:58
→ skymay:也難怪武僧用的怕怕的 05/13 21:58
→ skymay:^夠 連球迷的投票都對LF不是很滿意的感覺,當 05/13 22:00
→ skymay:然球迷對JR也是很不留情,但武僧還是很愛用他 XD 05/13 22:01
→ ab32110:所以說希望他多幫LF建立信心囉.....表現好請多用他 05/13 22:10
推 ab12:JR在FBpo睡沙發的照片是那招?想當好PG要先睡沙發? 05/13 22:12
→ ab12:我也希望LF留,他跟LIN在同一隊可以互相鼓勵 05/13 22:13
推 drcula:LF最大的問題是,狀況不好的時候,連空檔都不敢出手,連上籃 05/13 22:16
→ drcula:都狂放槍,其實出手不進比完全不敢出手更糟,你說讓教練對他 05/13 22:17
→ drcula:有信心,狂讓他先發嗎??萬一其實他有什麼小問題小傷痛自己不 05/13 22:18
→ drcula:覺呢??說LF表現不好1~2場就沒先發??是真的有看還是只看自己 05/13 22:18
→ drcula:喜歡看,在季後賽開始之前,LF的狀況就有點問題了,近1X場都很 05/13 22:19
→ drcula:糟,到了季後賽再讓他先發,數據列出來,教練不被罵死才怪 05/13 22:19
→ ab32110:並不是先發的問題.......希望他能在場下多幫LF建立信心啊 05/13 22:23
→ ab32110:表現好時也別忘記他......我什麼時候扯到先發了= = 05/13 22:23
推 ab12:有時我都想JR狂打鐵是不是要給LF建立信心 05/13 22:24
→ ab12:投不進還拚命投,隊友又搶不到進攻籃板,那來的自信一直投 05/13 22:24
推 javabird:在我看來JR投不進仍會濫投也好不到哪兒去,但是武僧顯然想 05/13 22:26
→ javabird:法不同. 05/13 22:26
推 drcula:ab12兄,其實我是把所有關於LF的一些討論通通混到一起談 05/13 22:26
→ drcula:LF的問題在於他狀況不好很久了,而他的狀況我也覺得是非戰之 05/13 22:26
→ etintin:如果是照大家上面分析 我寧可放JR 就算10中1也是中 但不 05/13 22:27
→ drcula:罪,他的位置其實最好的就是MELO的小前,LF籃板能力不錯,相對 05/13 22:27
→ etintin:出手就沒機會 LF 05/13 22:27
推 yun0215:請先看看武僧事怎麼對LF的...狀態不好上場時間開始一直減 05/13 22:28
→ drcula:他就要站在比較接近禁區才能有發揮,季賽末到季後賽,每個人 05/13 22:28
→ yun0215:減減...有給過他多少機會?有時好不容易打的不錯(半場) 05/13 22:28
→ drcula:位置都變來變去,防守進攻的位置都不穩,在這種時候調整狀態 05/13 22:29
→ yun0215:然後又忘記他...我承認LF的自信心真的很有問題... 05/13 22:29
→ yun0215:可是...教練擺明的就表現出"我不信任你" 這樣要球員如何 05/13 22:30
→ drcula:本來就是很難,加上要備戰季後賽,必然要練習先發主力陣形 05/13 22:30
→ yun0215:打球??希望LF去一個能有發揮的隊伍...至少希望教練是相信 05/13 22:30
→ yun0215:他的....= = 05/13 22:31
→ drcula:季後賽一開始的先發主力陣形就擺明了3巨頭+IMAN+BD,為了防 05/13 22:31
→ ab32110:他如果多花點心來幫LF 或在他表現好時多讓他上 我會很感動 05/13 22:31
→ drcula:住熱火的進攻,要說教練不相信他的話,他可能連先發機會危險 05/13 22:31
→ yun0215:其實講得不只是季後賽...伍僧上任以後很明顯就是這樣 05/13 22:32
→ drcula:其實季後賽的陣形說起來IMAN應該換成LF,問題是對上的是熱火 05/13 22:32
→ drcula:如果上伍僧上任後真的對他沒心,以LF那陣子狀況差成那樣,早 05/13 22:34
推 gogobala5566:看看LF跟IMAN本季的表現吧 你是教練會給誰多打? 05/13 22:34
→ drcula:就被拔先發了吧(事實上外國網友早有這說法,LF<->IMAN) 05/13 22:35
→ gogobala5566:LF本季連罰球命中率都只有56.2%這種禁區球員的命中率 05/13 22:35
→ drcula:但LF的先發還是一直有,別隊,在某些隊搞不好早就進冰箱了 05/13 22:35
推 ab32110:建立信心跟先發不完全相關 至少他表現好時別忘記他 05/13 22:36
→ gogobala5566:LF繼續低迷下去 等IMAN傷好 他先發位置就要被拔了.. 05/13 22:36
推 withou:所以在他表現低潮時沒拔他先發不算幫他建立信心?? 05/13 22:38
→ yun0215:沒拔先發但上場時間越來越少...剛換教練時其實還沒那麼慘 05/13 22:39
→ withou:同樣喜歡LF,他低潮時很擔心,但是有偷偷感謝武僧還是讓他 05/13 22:39
→ yun0215:(我說場上表現)可是上場時間就是短... 05/13 22:40
→ withou:持續先發滿長一段時間 05/13 22:40
推 gogobala5566:LF還是比較適合小前鋒這個位置 將來當MELO替補也不錯 05/13 22:40
推 drcula:另外其實球團對LF也算不錯,記得LF賽末有一場大爆發,賽後訪 05/13 22:42
→ drcula:談有提到Larry Johnson來給了他一些建議和幫助,LJ跟LF的型 05/13 22:42
→ drcula:有點點像,一樣算鋒線球員,籃板能力不差,也有中距離和外線 05/13 22:43
→ drcula:及切入能力,我是覺得尼克還是算有在養他 05/13 22:44
推 faseno:LF季末有稍微回復一點狀態,只是就是不穩,加上一直有人受 05/13 22:46
→ faseno:傷,陣形根本沒辦法穩固,JR, LF和Amare三人表現不穩我覺得 05/13 22:48
→ etintin:對不起 我看不出Woodson不太給LF機會 就算他真不信任 05/13 22:48
→ etintin:因為我也不是球團人員 更不是球員 我無從得知 05/13 22:49
→ etintin:依例行賽和季後賽的表現和調度 我覺得不會不正常 05/13 22:49
→ faseno:就.....就等夏季訓練後看有沒有改進吧(前提是都留下了Orz 05/13 22:50
推 drcula:另外季後賽JR的上場時間爆增,出手次數也爆增的另一個重要原 05/13 22:50
→ drcula:因就是沒有真正的PG,JR基本上都上場扛一半的PG責任 05/13 22:51
→ drcula:BD一開始感冒,上場時間不長,BB也是一樣,剩餘的控球都是JR在 05/13 22:52
→ drcula:接,到了IMAN受傷,更是如此,BD傷了之後,JR根本成了替補PG 05/13 22:53
→ drcula:尼克在整個季賽末到季後賽的陣形和陣容真的只能用災難來形 05/13 22:53
→ drcula:容,以此去評論誰的表現或什麼有沒有教練愛之類的,不太精確 05/13 22:55
推 faseno:尼克也找了Allan Houston來指導LF投籃,他之後也確實有進步 05/13 22:57
→ faseno:G5我不太想回憶Orz 但LF因TO被換下後,之後Aamre下場教練還 05/13 23:00
→ faseno:是讓LF回場上,他也確實有兩次成功進球,我想也不一定能說 05/13 23:01
→ faseno:教練不相信他什麼的。(是說那時也沒人可以用了啦... 05/13 23:01
→ skymay:是說看到大家這麼愛護LF 還蠻開心的XD 但突然想到不管武僧 05/13 23:05
→ skymay:對LF是否有信任,或者只是因為沒人可用而讓他上,但這...讓我 05/13 23:06
→ skymay:想到 TD 和新隊友...明明傷兵一堆,但他們才是真的被武僧不 05/13 23:06
→ skymay:信任的球員吧 ?! 05/13 23:07
推 drcula:我覺得真正沒愛的是大JJ,常覺得他很可憐,身材不差,但真沒愛 05/13 23:07
推 etintin:唉 TD.... 倒是我曾想過新同學怎會季後賽完全沒上場 05/13 23:08
→ drcula:不管是冷笑話或武僧時期,或許戰績一直吃緊,讓他們也只能一 05/13 23:08
→ etintin:這我就真的不太懂 因為 感覺還沒試夠 05/13 23:08
→ drcula:直被冰,新同學搞不好年底都不知道還會不會看的到說 05/13 23:09
→ drcula:新同學我記得有上來打個1~2分鐘吧 05/13 23:09
→ faseno:Walker那時被叫回來也都沒上場最後就...Orz 05/13 23:09
→ etintin:對 還有大JJ 被冰得很徹底 雖然他上場也不甚出色 但畢 05/13 23:09
→ faseno:說好G5要用的TD最後只上8分鐘,控球還是落在JR和BB身上 05/13 23:10
→ etintin:竟都是垃圾時間 也看不太出個所以然 05/13 23:10
→ skymay:TD在G5讓我最有印象的一幕就是還被虧眼中只有籃框...囧 05/13 23:11
推 drcula:而且是國內外記者都這樣虧......... 05/13 23:11
→ skymay:這樣想想LF的上場時間能維持在15~35分鐘這個間距好像也不算 05/13 23:14
→ skymay:差了... XD 05/13 23:14
→ skymay:當然這是在尼克很缺人的時候,之後傷兵全歸隊後就不清楚了 05/13 23:15
→ faseno:看幾則報導是說,由於Shumpert的傷沒辦法季初回來,LF這時 05/13 23:17
→ faseno:就可以起到關鍵作用,所以LF你夏季真的要把外線找回來啊啊 05/13 23:18
推 drcula:LF養好能發揮的關鍵作用比IMAN還威,不差的防守,籃板,切入 05/13 23:25
→ drcula:當個超級搖擺人,打好了,千萬身價不無可能,甚至可以跟LIN攜 05/13 23:26
→ drcula:手當下一世代的核心主力看板 05/13 23:26
→ angellll:有夢最美 05/13 23:27
→ aiko101:Shumpert要好好養傷0.0 希望BD能早日恢復健康 05/13 23:32
推 drcula:LF,LIN,IMAN下一代尼克的核心三巨頭,哈哈哈哈哈 05/13 23:33
推 fish2cat:樓上說的遠景好讚! 05/13 23:33
→ drcula:我一向都是正向思考,大膽作夢的 05/13 23:34
推 loverich:我喜歡LF,LIN,IMAN下一代尼克的核心三巨頭!!! 05/13 23:41
推 drcula:以完美情況來說,LF搖擺人SF,LIN=PG,IMAN=SG,三人都能切入 05/13 23:43
→ drcula:搭配兩個還OK的禁區苦工(如果是Jort,和大JJ就更夢想化了) 05/13 23:44
推 penguin23:d大的下一代三巨頭我喜歡XD! 05/13 23:50
推 etintin:不過前提也是這些人都會持續留在NY 05/13 23:51
→ skymay:還有一個前提是尼克薪資空間有辦法幫他們三個加薪到適合他 05/13 23:54
→ skymay:們的身價XD 因為如果都表現很好,尼克沒薪資空間,很快又要各 05/13 23:55
→ skymay:奔前程了吧 XD 05/13 23:55
推 lest83:可能要先簽個2~3年約吧 然後後一年應該會破豪華税 3年後換 05/14 00:20
→ lest83:約剛好交接! 05/14 00:20
推 drcula:其實換約和交接的時候剛好差不多,如果三個年輕人都養起來 05/14 00:23
→ drcula:成為新三巨頭,時間是剛好差不多差不多 05/14 00:23
推 lest83:只是這樣我們又缺內線了XD 05/14 00:38
→ lest83:那三隻頂多扛PG SG SF 05/14 00:38
推 ab12:三年後的遠景很棒希望尼克把他們都留下來 05/14 21:32