作者BSH99 (BSH99)
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標題[外電] 瓜 罵 錢 3者相斥問題
時間Tue Oct 23 23:06:38 2012
這種分析文真不好翻QQ 有錯請提出
http://ppt.cc/ZM1e
Amar’e Stoudemire, Carmelo Anthony, Tyson Chandler and the Knicks’ Spacing
Issue
瓜 罵 錢 尼克的空間分配大問題
Carmelo Anthony and Amar’e Stoudemire are often asked if they can “play
together”, with the implication being that Amar’e hasn’t been the same
since the trade to bring Carmelo to the Knicks. Now Amar’e has certainly
lost a step and some ‘bounce’ since the 2010-2011 season but the biggest
reason for Amar’e's issues, at the offensive end, may be the addition of
Tyson Chandler and the spacing issues he creates.
瓜瓜跟阿罵最常被提出"他們是否能夠相容",這句話暗示這阿罵在也不是瓜瓜交易案之前
的阿罵了,現在阿罵被認為已經失去他2010年的第一步跟彈跳力,而在進攻端再度添加了
新的問題,就是老錢跟他與老錢的空間分配問題。
First, it’s important to realize that Stoudemire’s production did not dip
significantly following the trade that brought Carmelo Anthony to the Knicks
and he continued putting up excellent numbers. In the 25 regular season games
following the trade, Stoudemire averaged 23.5 points a game on 49% shooting.
This would seem to show that the addition of Anthony did not significantly
impact Stoudemire’s offensive game.
首先,這點很重要,我們要先認知阿罵的效益減少並不是因為瓜瓜,阿罵在瓜來到後,
仍舊有不錯的數據,在那次交易案後的25場例行賽,阿罵平均23.5分,49%命中率,這顯示
瓜瓜的到來並沒有重大影響到阿罵的進攻。
While 25 games is a very small sample size, insert Jeremy Lin joke, the
statistics from last year show that Carmelo’s presence also did not impact
Amar’e game in a significant way, besides shot attempts. That is, it would
appear that Amare’s struggles weren’t due to Carmelo “crowding” or “
freezing out” Amar’e.
當然,25場是個小樣本,就跟林來瘋一樣,這個數據顯示去年的瓜並沒有重大影響到阿罵,
不過除了出手數以外就是了,這似乎在說明阿罵現階段的掙扎並不是因為瓜的關係。
瓜在場跟不在場的阿罵數據:
http://ppt.cc/FERV
I am of the belief that Amare’s struggles in 2010-2011 were in part due to
the addition of Tyson Chandler and the fact that he clogs the paint on
offense. Using the NBA’s advanced stats tool, I’ve discovered that when
Chandler and Amar’e are both on the court, the effect on Amare’s game has
been massive, and not in a good way.
我更加相信阿罵的掙扎是來自於老錢的加入,老錢阻塞了很多進攻區域,用了NBA最先進的
分析工具後,我發現當阿罵跟老錢都在場上時,對阿罵的影響是非常巨大的,而且是不好的
那方面。
老錢對阿罵的影響數據:
http://ppt.cc/Uz_g
What jumps off the page in analyzing these splits is the fact that Stoudemire
’s field goal percentage jumped 12 points with Chandler off the court and in
turn Stoudemire’s points per 36 minutes jumped up seven points while only
taking .7 of a shot more. This increase in efficiency is further explained by
the fact that Stoudemire’s free throw attempts, per 36, increased by nearly
three.
有個驚人的事實是,當老錢不在場上時,阿罵的跳投得分可以多12分,還有阿罵的罰球機會,
也會增加將近3次。
Furthermore the shot location data is very telling. From every region on the
court STAT’s FG% went way up with Chandler on the bench. In the restricted
area, where Stoudemire takes most of his shots, his percentage increased from
62% to 71%. From mid-range he was 12% better. These two areas are crucial to
Stoudemire’s offense.
而阿罵每個區域的命中率都有顯著的提升,在油漆區,他的進攻比例從62%提升到71%,中距
離也會好上12%命中率,這兩個區塊是阿罵最有威脅的得分地帶。
Additionally the frequency at which Amar’e shoots in the restricted area
rises from 43% with Chandler on the court to 50% when he is not, and the
percentage if his shots in the paint but not in the restricted area falls
from 18% to 12%. This would lead me to hypothesize that when Chandler is on
the court Amar’e is simply less aggressive attacking the rim, but seeing
that Amar’e still took the same percentage of mid-range shots I’m led to
hypothesize that this is a spacing issue. When Chandler is on the court It
may be that, since he is often around the basket, it proves much more
difficult for Amar’e to get to the rim. Chandler clogs the paint and makes
it much more difficult to attack for Stoudemire.
而阿罵在油漆區的命中率也會從43%提升到50%,如果中距離的進攻比例也會從18%降為12%,
會讓我去思考是否老錢在場上時,阿罵會減少進攻禁區的比例,但是事實上阿罵的中距離
比率還是一樣,這讓我去假設如果這是個空間分配問題,當老錢在場上時,老錢會一直在
籃框附近游走,這可證明這讓阿罵更難以去進攻籃框,老錢堵塞了許多阿罵的進攻。
Another issue with the Amare-Tyson pairing is that for all of Tyson’s
defensive prowess he s an incredibly limited, albeit, efficient offensive
player. Chandler gets almost all his points from pick and rolls and offensive
put backs. This frequently leads to Chandler replacing Amar’e as the roll
man in pick and roll situations while Amar’e just floats around the
perimeter. Looking at the stats Amar’e ended possessions as the roll man
only 120 times last year compared to 198 in 2010-2011.
另外一個問題是老錢的高效防守能力,還有他也是個高效的進攻球員,老錢的得分手段
大多來自P&R跟補籃,這將會使老錢取代阿罵成為擋拆的配合對象,這將會讓阿罵淪為
在旁邊遊走的遊魂,阿罵上賽季的P&R僅僅只有120次遠低於2010年的198次。
It seems apparent that the Tyson-Amare pairing comes with serious spacing
issues, but I couldn’t stop here. I think there are several things the
Knicks could do to improve Amar’e's productivity (aside from wishing his
jumper comes back), although expecting the same STAT from two years ago is a
stretch.
這些數據似乎顯示阿罵跟老錢有很嚴重的空間問題,但是我們不能就這樣放棄,我認為這
裡有些解決方案,我們仍舊可以期待阿罵從兩年的掙扎中破繭而出。
1. Mike Woodson would be smart to add more quick hitting plays that create
space on the floor for Amar’e to attack. I believe we saw an example of this
against the Raptors in the play below.
1.武僧似乎很聰明的加入更多的傳導去讓阿罵擁有空間去進攻,這是季前賽的一個小例子
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wkgR_HPDLa4
While I’m no Sebastian Pruiti, the Knicks appear to run a 1-5 Pick and Roll
with Melo and Amare both on the left side of the floor. Melo is in the corner
and Amare positioned at the elbow, Ray Felton uses the pick and passes it to
Amar’e who passes it to Melo then slips a screen leading to a dunk. This
play is exactly the way to free up space for Amar’e to attack.
雖然我不是Sebastian Pruiti,不過尼克似乎用瓜跟阿罵展現了一種P&R,瓜跟阿罵同時
出現在左側,瓜在角落而阿罵在肘區,肥頓跟老錢擋拆然後傳給阿罵,阿罵在傳給瓜在做
擋拆,然後瓜再回傳給阿罵,讓阿罵有機會去灌籃,這個PLAY恰好地為阿罵創造了一個
進攻空間。
2. The Knicks would be wise to borrow from Monty Williams, who as Jared Dubin
shows in his new venture at hoopchalk.com employed some nice Pick and
Roll/Pop schemes with his big men, Jason Smith and Chris Kaman (as shown
below). In the first video Jason Smith runs a pick and pop while Kaman cuts
in like a roll man would. In the second video the Hornets run a pick and roll
and pick and pop one after the other. Inventive pick and roll schemes like
the ones below might go a long way to solve the spacing problem and increase
Amare’s productivity.
2.尼克可以借鑑Monty Williams,Jared Dubin跟他的大個子展現了一些不錯的P&R或P&P,
第一個影像是Jason Smith跑P&P給Kaman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6GgE_reA2jc
第二個是黃蜂跑P&R跟P&P給另外一個,善用P&R的配合將是一條解決阿罵效益跟空間問題
的長久之路
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IWhTDoEdqqI
Be sure to click over to
http://hoopchalk.com/2012/10/22/the-new-orleans-hornets-and-the-roll-pop-combo/
where Dubin explains it in far more detail.
這裡還有更多關於P&P的講解
3. The last and perhaps easiest, basketball wise, but most difficult way
politically would be to move Amar’e to the bench where he could run pick and
rolls all day with Prigioni. Since Camby can shoot, unlike Chandler, the
Knicks wouldn’t run into the same spacing problem they have now.
Hey Melo, the next time they ask you if you can play with Amar’e just
respond “it’s Tyson, not me”.
3.也許更簡單的方法是把阿罵丟到替補席上,這樣他就可以整天跟老普玩P&R,而老坎比
也可以投中距離拉開空間,尼克或許就不會遇到這種空間問題了。
嘿!瓜瓜,下次在被問起這問題時,你可以回答"是老錢害的,不是我喔!"
以上僅供參考!
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補上武僧談小酒的首戰復出
“He's rusty,'' Woodson said.
“His stat line wasn’t bad for a guy who’s been sitting.’’
武僧說:"他有點生鏽了,以一個之前一直休息的人來說他的數據還不差"
* The saga of Rasheed Wallace, signed to a non-guaranteed contract, will get
more interesting today. Woodson said Wallace may practice for first time, but
is not ready to scrimmage. Wallace will have missed the entire six-game
preseason.
“We have to get him on the floor getting him up and down before he starts
scrimmaging,’’ Woodson said.
武僧說西蛙就要參加第一次訓練了,不過還不能參加混戰,"我們要先讓他到場上,
之後才能進入混戰。"
The mystery regarding J.R. Smith’s Achilles could be solved today as well.
Smith missed the trip with a sore Achilles that forced him into a walking
boot. The Knicks still are calling it a sore ankle, but an Achilles injury
has the potential to become chronic. Smith has played just one preseason game.
另外一個關於JR的秘密是,他的問題今天可能就會解決了,JR之前的傷讓他走路要穿
防護套,而尼克仍舊聲稱那是腳踝痛。
“We have enough talent on the team we can get by until Amar’e gets back,’’
Woodson said. “Thank God it’s exhibition season and not the regular season.
’’
最後武僧說:"我們有足夠的天賦可以等待阿罵的歸隊,感謝上帝現在還只是季前賽,
而不是例行賽。"
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話說老錢最近越來越敢投中距離了,雖然今天只看第一節,但第一節有一幕是老錢站在罰
球線附近,而76人全部人都散開,離他大概有一大步吧...,結果老錢看了看...還是把球
球傳掉了。
武僧再多給老錢一點信心吧!!感覺老錢的中距離不是練不出來而是沒信心阿!!
畢竟老錢的罰球並不差啊!!
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推 kd1523:insert Jeremy Lin joke 這句話要要怎麼翻啊? 10/23 23:11
推 jayelva:瓜瓜那樣回答的話應該會被罵爆XDDDD 10/23 23:12
→ BSH99:那句話就別太在意吧XD 10/23 23:13
推 esther81828:推 不只拳王 NOVAK也開始往禁區裡面打了XD 10/23 23:43
→ esther81828:只是一個探步之後還是會逃出來XD 10/23 23:44
推 osape:我相信大家都侹康的話,一定能找到辦法。阿罵的身材還是很好 10/23 23:45
→ esther81828:兩次擋拆幫阿罵作出進攻PLAY真的很棒 這應該也是阿罵 10/23 23:45
→ esther81828:會習慣的打法吧 10/23 23:45
→ osape:問題在於信心,怕阿罵的信心喪失,要多鼓勵阿罵啊!! 10/23 23:46
→ osape:*健康 10/23 23:49
推 pklahahaha:阿罵能接受板凳出發嗎? 10/24 01:14
推 dannyisagay:阿罵最讓人不能忍受的是他的防守吧... 10/24 07:06
推 skymay:瓜瓜那樣回答會被罵爆+1 XDDDDDDDDD 10/24 07:50