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Ronnie Brewer: Not A Shooting Guard, A Guarding Guard 談小酒:不是一個得分後衛,而是超級外線防護罩 http://ppt.cc/3e8r I think @Netw3rk said it best, “Ronnie Brewer isn’t a shooting guard he’s a guarding guard.” Ronnie Brewer is one of the best one-on-one defenders in the league, but if you haven’t heard of him, it’s likely because he isn’t very flashy on the offensive end. One thing is for sure: he gets the job done on defense. To show off Brewer’s, dare I say elite, defensive skills, I took a look at how four very talented shooting guards fared when going up against the defensive powerhouse that is Ronnie Brewer. Before I get into this, it should be noted that Ronnie Brewer played fewer than 25% of his total minutes with Omer Asik, a defensive anchor upfront, so a lot of his defense came with a limited backstop. Yeah, I just tooted his horn. (Keep in mind that all head-to-head statistics are per 36 minutes) 我覺得@Netw3rk說得很好:"小酒並不是一個得分後衛,他是超級防守者。" 小酒絕對是聯盟中頂級的1對1防守悍將,如果你還沒聽過他,那絕對是因為他那很囧 的進攻,不過有一件事是確定的:那就是他的防守真的很棒,讓我來告訴你小酒防守有多好 ,我拿一些頂級的SG來讓大家瞧瞧,小酒的防守能力有多可怕。 在那之前有一個要先提的,就是小酒總上場時間只有少於25%是跟阿西克一起上場, 阿西克直白地說就是防守大靠山,所以小酒大多都是在後場防守。 (此資料皆為PRE36分鐘) First up, Kobe Bryant. Now, last year, the Bulls and Lakers only played once, and in that game, Kobe played 35 minutes. 15 of those minutes were against Ronnie Brewer, while the other 20 were played while Brewer rested on the bench. With Brewer on the bench, Kobe proceeded to score 32.4 points, on a scorching 67% shooting. He also attempted 10.8 free throws, which stem from Kobe’s ability to draw fouls on inferior defenders. However, with Brewer on the court, Bryant’s scoring decreased to 24 points, on just 36% shooting, and he only attempted 2.4 free throws. It’s worth noting that the field-goal percentage Brewer held Bryant to was more than 10% below Bryant’s average field goal percentage of 43%, 16.3% below, to be exact, for the entire 2011-2012 season. 噹噹~第一位老大!!!(Kobe Bryant) 去年,公牛跟湖人只對決過一次,那場老大上了35分鐘,有15分鐘都在跟小酒拼命, 另外20分鐘是小酒在板凳休息的時候,當小酒在板凳的時候, 老大拿了32.4分,命中67%,10.8次的罰球 然而小酒上場後,老大則是:得分減少到24分,命中36%,2.4次的罰球企圖 值得一提的是,小酒讓老大的命中率低於平均10%,最多會低於16.3%。 (皆已2011-2012賽季來說) Also, With Brewer on the bench, Kobe contributed 43% of the Lakers' turnovers, but when Brewer was on the floor, that number ballooned to 63%, which isn't surprising, because we all know how much Kobe loves having the ball in his hands – even if he's going against a pesky defender. 另外老大的失誤率也從43%提升到63%,大家都知道老大喜歡持球進攻,就算面對她討厭的 防守者,他依然會勇往直前的進攻。 A good defender might defend his opponent well but end up losing the battle by fouling. A great defender doesn’t give his opponent the chance to get to the free throw line… Brewer was able to pressure Bryant enough to decrease his scoring production, as well as shooting percentage, but he also avoided fouling Bryant, and kept him from going to the line. That’s a very big deal when you consider that free throws would have helped the Lakers much more than loosely-contested jumpers would. 一個好的防守者,是會讓對方也沒機會罰球的,小酒就是那個可以讓老大減少得分的防守者 Next up, Kevin Martin. Thanks to a shortened, lockout induced season, the Bulls did not have the opportunity to play the Rockets last year, but during the 2010-2011, full length season, these teams met twice, with Kevin Martin playing 70 minutes in those two games. With Brewer on the bench, in 38 minutes, Martin scored 25.6 points, on 47% shooting, and attempted 9.5 free throws. With Brewer on the court, those numbers decreased to 5.6 points, on 25% shooting, 43% below his season average, and just 1.1 free throws attempted. 第二位騙人丁(Kevin Martin) 因為縮水賽季,所以公牛很多少機會可以跟火箭對決,但是在2010-11賽季,他們對上了兩 次,騙人丁有打的70分鐘中,小酒坐了38分鐘的板凳,那時騙人丁砍出 25.6分,47%命中,9.5次罰球 而小酒在場時,騙人丁則是減少到5.6分,25%命中,遠低於它的平均43%命中,1.1次罰球。 (...有這麼誇張嗎,這樣小酒根本是騙人丁剋星= =) One interesting thing is that with Brewer on the floor, Martin resorted to finding teammates, rather than attempting to generate offense on his own. With Brewer on the bench, Martin scored 31% of the Rockets’ points, compared to just 9%, when Brewer was on the floor. At the same time, Martin contributed 31% of his team’s assists, while Brewer was on the floor, compared to just 16%, when Brewer was on the bench. Thanks to Brewer’s defense, Kevin Martin, one of the leagues best pure scorers, was forced to focus his attention more on distributing the ball, rather than scoring it, as he was locked up by Brewer. 有一件有趣的事要提,當小酒在場上時,騙人丁傾向於尋求隊友幫助,而不是自己進攻,而 當小酒坐板凳時,火箭有31%的進攻都是騙人丁,而在小酒上場卻降到9%, 在同時,小酒上場時,騙人丁貢獻了31%的團隊助攻,而小酒坐板凳時,卻只有16%, 真的要感謝小酒的防守,讓騙人丁從聯盟中最純的得分手被強迫要多傳球。 因為他已經被小酒鎖住了。 Next up, Manu Ginobili. Last year, the San Antonio Spurs and Chicago Bulls didn’t play, but two years ago, during the 2010-2011 season, the teams matched up twice, and Manu played 67 minutes, in total. 27 of those minutes were against Ronnie Brewer, while the other 40 saw Brewer on the bench. With Brewer resting on the bench, Ginobili scored 26.1 points, while shooting 58% from the floor. With Brewer on the court, Ginobili’s scoring declined to 9.3 points, on just 18% shooting. Furthermore, without Brewer on him, Ginobili managed to avoid turning the ball over, but when Brewer entered the game, Ginobili contributed 50% of his team’s turnovers. 下一位鬼禿(Manu Ginobili) 去年馬刺跟公牛並沒有對上但是兩年前,他們對決了兩次,鬼禿有上的67分鐘,有27 分鐘都在跟小酒PK,其他40分鐘小酒都在板凳。 當小酒在板凳時,鬼禿能得26.1分,58%命中。 當小酒在場上時,鬼禿得分跌落到9.3分,18%命中 而小酒在場時,鬼禿的失誤率也高達50% Manu is one of the most difficult players to defend because of the way he incorporates his european flare into the game, in order to keep his defender on his toes. Despite this, Brewer was able to limit Manu’s shooting percentage to just 18%, a number that should not go unnoticed. While it’s impressive to limit any scorer to 18% shooting, it’s even more impressive limiting one of the trickiest scorers to 18% shooting. 鬼禿是最難防守的球員之一,因為他的歐洲步伐會讓他的防守被甩開,儘管如此 小酒還是能讓鬼禿的命中只有18%,這是不該被忽視的,當你可以限制任何的得分手只有 18%的命中,會讓人印象深刻,但是如果你是讓頂級的得分手只有18%命中,這更讓人 印象深刻...... Finally, Dwyane Wade. In 2011, the Chicago Bulls and Miami Heat matched up in a seven game playoff series that only went five games. Of the five games played, Wade played in 198 of the possible 240 minutes. 36% of those minutes were against Ronnie Brewer. With Brewer on him, Wade was held to a paltry 15 points, on 38% shooting, and attempted just 4 free throws. 最後~典偉!!(Dwyane Wade) 在2011年公牛跟熱火在季後賽對決了5場,典偉打了198分鐘,有36%的時間在跟小酒對決 當小酒跟他對決時,他拿了15分,38%的命中,4次的罰球。 While Wade didn’t have the greatest overall series, the most impressive thing Brewer displayed was his ability to avoid fouling – something I spoke about earlier. Dwyane Wade is one of the best scorers in the league, and even though the NBA just inserted a flopping penalty, the fact of the matter is that the best scorers are experts at selling fouls and getting to the free throw line. Wade, for instance, has a career average of 8.9 free throw attempts per game. While some of those come from aggressive play, the number is padded by Golden Globe worthy performances. In the Bulls vs. Heat playoff series, Brewer’s ability to limit Wade’s trips to the stripe to just 4.0 times a game, should not go unnoticed. This means he didn’t bite on a majority of Wade’s fakes, nor did he get caught with his hand in the cookie jar, two things made especially difficult when going up an offensive powerhouse like Wade. 典偉並沒有打出很棒的系列,而讓人印象深刻的是,小酒展現出他那避開犯規的高級能力, 典偉是聯盟中最棒的得分手之一,而且他很會騙犯規,他生涯上罰球線平均有8.9次, 儘管有些被稱為所謂的金身,在公牛跟熱火對決中,小酒讓典偉只用出4次他那輕盈的步伐 這也是不該被忽視的,這代表著他並沒有被典偉騙到,也沒有讓典偉輕易的得手,這兩 件事說明了,當你防守像典偉這樣的進攻者有多困難。 So, as I’ve shown you, Ronnie Brewer is a superb defender. He alters the games of even the best scorers in the league. While he might not have an offensive game (well, he does, but it’s god awful), his defense more than makes up for that loss. Brewer will give the Knicks a guy that can pester the opposition’s shooting guard all night long. I’m looking forward to a long year of defense from Ronnie Brewer! 所以我想,我應該已經證明了小酒事多棒的防守者吧,他即使對上聯盟最好的得分手, 他也能改變比賽,當然他可能沒辦法出現在進攻中(如果可以,這將會是令人害怕的), 他的防守彌補了這項缺失,小酒可以幫尼克整夜都在糾纏那些得分手,我很期待未來的 小酒防守!!! 以上僅供參考! 希望小酒真的這麼猛XDD -- ─∥ ── =" ψsherry821224 ────────────── \ Teammates don't  ̄◣  ̄╲  ̄╲ λ play with each _ -.╳ ︶- other, they play ρ\ `, ▲ FOR each other. ─∥ _╱ ╲╲_◢ | ────────…‥. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 180.218.213.115
skymay:開季第二戰對熱火時會仔細看一下他和騷韋 XDD 10/27 14:48
Altair:該不會變成下一個Tony Allen... 10/28 00:15
greedbo:為什麼會扯到火箭球員,很明顯...不靠火箭撐版面 沒人在意 10/28 09:43
osape:樓上推錯文了吧? 10/28 09:52
skymay:這幾位明明就是很有名SG的強力得分手...哪有只扯火箭球員? 10/28 09:58
osape:從門票來看,MSG主場尼火戰從$210起跳,平均745元 10/28 09:58
osape:尼箭戰從$105起跳,平均375元。火火和超賽MSG票價都很貴 10/28 09:59
greedbo:我沒推錯文,提到 10/28 10:06
greedbo:兩個火箭球員,就是炒話題而已... 10/28 10:07
osape:那你走錯板了 10/28 10:12
HidakaShu:是只有台灣人不在意而已,外電幹嘛特地搏版面 10/28 10:17
skymay:另外阿西克跟小酒都待過公牛也都是公牛的防守大將,提到有 10/28 10:21
skymay:什麼奇怪的@@? 10/28 10:21
dj6601:連續好幾年價值最高的球隊需要火箭球員搏版面?腦子撞到喔? 10/28 14:05
dj6601:而且還是那麼低調的小馬丁和offseason才出名的阿西克 10/28 14:07
BSH99:痾...照理說應該只有KM算火箭..阿西克照這篇來看是要算公牛 10/28 14:31
dj6601:小馬丁也已經不在火箭了XD 10/28 14:35
jayelva:真是震撼 10/28 18:04
greedbo:就說住紐約的亞洲人也不少啦...少了林那些人都消失了 10/28 21:41
greedbo:少在那天真 自我感覺良好,以為尼克隊人氣一樣旺或更旺 10/28 21:42
greedbo:價值最高球員,是因為人口多,你邏輯還好吧,我指的是這球員 10/28 21:44
greedbo:不靠林來瘋的隊友,沒人有興趣看,所以筆者才會扯火箭隊 10/28 21:44
osape:消失就消失啊,那些人很煩。票都賣光了不然你想怎樣? 10/28 21:49
osape:火箭票很便宜,$3鎂起跳喔 10/28 21:50
osape:沒有林來瘋的去年,尼克運營利潤就$7490萬元,是全NBA最高了 10/28 21:51
osape:註:上面指2010-11年賽季 10/28 21:52
chen06:雖然我看不懂上面在說什麼?我只是要說明一件事 10/28 21:57
chen06:我知道沒有Lin我朋友(住NY的亞洲人)仍買了尼克的票 10/28 21:59
chen06:不過他是還沒有Lin以前就會買票進去看,沒有Lin以後還是買 10/28 22:00
skymay:而且熱身賽都不是尼克主場,也一堆穿著尼克球衣的球迷在場 10/28 22:01
skymay:邊看球 XD 10/28 22:01
skymay:上一場跟籃網的比賽好像算籃網主場,小胖還被球迷噓了 10/28 22:02
chen06:所以住NY的亞洲人好像並沒有因為少了誰就全不進球場了XDD  10/28 22:04
skymay:基本上票都賣光了,賣給誰有差嗎? XDD 是誰進去看球的其實 10/28 22:07
skymay:對球隊好像沒什麼差吧 XD 亞洲人黑人還是白人 XD 對球隊來 10/28 22:07
skymay:說買票看球的才是客人 XD 只是尼克票已經被訂光,而且還漲 10/28 22:08
skymay:價了 XD 10/28 22:08
chen06:賣給什麼人確實沒差,可是真的有亞洲人買票啊 10/28 22:10
chen06:不然我朋友進去看的時候我叫他想辦法讓鏡頭照到證明 XDDD 10/28 22:10
skymay:嗯嗯 我知道 XD 其實我們也是亞洲人 XD 所以說亞洲人都對 10/28 22:11
skymay:尼克沒了興趣還蠻好笑的 XD 如果真如此這個版可以廢了XD 10/28 22:11
osape:熱身賽鏡頭裡就有亞洲人了,NBA是看球技又不是看人種 10/28 22:11
sherry821224:一分鐘到了,你做了個好夢嗎? 10/28 22:13
chen06:雖然還是很困惑這篇討論重點是什麼?只是想說出知道的事實 10/28 22:13
skymay:XDDDDDDDD 其實這篇挺有趣的XD 早上有人說這篇愛提火箭球員 10/28 22:15
skymay:結果這篇提到的那個火箭球員在中午過後離開了 XD 然後裡面 10/28 22:15
skymay:提的阿西克其實也就是小酒曾經的隊友而已 XD 10/28 22:16
dj6601:你才還好吧 我就是亞洲人住過紐約4年多 看過現場的比賽 10/28 22:17
dj6601:比你一輩子看尼克隊還多 從03黑暗年開始 MSG就是滿的 10/28 22:18
dj6601:亞洲人多到比你家巷子的人還多 是你眼界太小還是智商太低? 10/28 22:19
dj6601:還是你要解讀成那些去看現場比賽的亞洲人都是路邊撿到票的? 10/28 22:21
chen06:正想叫我朋友出來現身說法,就有其他亞洲人挺身而出~推樓上 10/28 22:26
osape:推樓上。有看尼克熱身賽就知道,除了巫師外,其他幾乎都滿場 10/28 22:27
osape:尼克的票房不是靠XX瘋,MSG股票現在也漲到$40(X瘋只有33.99) 10/28 22:29
osape:推dj大和chen06大。台灣支持火箭隊很好很棒,我很高興能低調 10/28 22:30
paullu:有些球迷 真的很誇張哈 10/28 22:35
HidakaShu:功課都沒做就想酸,跟他認真幹嘛(哈欠) 10/28 22:36
chen06:我剛回家看到謬論只好說事實,其實還沒有看本文#^_^# 10/28 22:39
Lenny115:有些人真的很可愛 好像沒有LIN世界就崩塌了 10/29 02:19
Lenny115:黑暗期的票房都讓很多球隊望塵莫及 10/29 02:20
greedbo:中文還好吧,誰不知道尼克打多爛 票房照樣賺...你國文不好 10/29 08:51
greedbo:我講再多 你也是斷章取義而已,講真的 這版人氣不到十 10/29 08:52
greedbo:就少嗆點...想變成人氣五嗎 噗 10/29 08:52
skymay:變人氣五又如何 XDDDD 總比人氣100但一堆酸酸埋伏著看笑話 10/29 08:55
skymay:好吧 XD 10/29 08:55
HidakaShu:人氣1也沒差吧,好過之前100但烏煙瘴氣 10/29 09:02
BSH99:不會真的有人從PTT看世界吧= = 10/29 09:05
Lenny115:從這個遙遠的小島看NBA球隊的市場.. 真的太幽默了 10/29 09:11
Lenny115:請說明隊版的人氣能說明在美亞洲人不買票進場的關聯性 10/29 09:12
g9xuggf:怎麼會有人以為只有台灣人看NBA 自我感覺極度良好Y 10/29 09:14
Lenny115:我突然覺得我推文好繞舌XD 相信我 過不久火箭版也會對 10/29 09:15
Lenny115:那種"人氣"感到惶恐 10/29 09:16
g9xuggf:不會啦 那邊都是1日迷迷 打不好人都不見了機率比較高!! 10/29 09:24
chen06:greedbo:我們人氣那麼少的隊版你就不用來了~快走不送 10/29 10:02