[外電] 尼克的化學作用好像無法累加??

[BSH99 (BSH99)]

Knicks Having Chemistry Issues Doesn’t Add Up


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On Valentines Day, Jared Zwerling wrote a piece giving the impression the New
York Knicks are undergoing some behind the scenes chemistry issues. The title
of the story is, “Scout Melo’s Act Gets Old Fast.” I’m not going to even
address that because he probably wasn’t the one who wrote it.

Some of the points he makes are 100 percent accurate, but the overall premise
of the story isn’t as smooth as 2 + 2 = 4.

Lets take a look…


在情人節時，我們親愛的大記者JZ寫了一篇有關於尼克化學作用問題的文章，標題就叫做

"看看瓜的打球風格越來越像老人球了阿..."，雖然我不是很接受這說法，但JZ顯然不是

唯一一個這麼說的人。

有些地方她說得非常正確，就像是2+2不會等於4，讓我們來看看他說了甚麼。


THE KNICKS STARTED THE SEASON ON FIRE, JUMPING OUT TO AN 8-1 RECORD AND THEN
20-8, FUELED BY THEIR HOT 3-POINT SHOOTING AND PERIMETER DEFENSE.

FROM THERE, THEY’VE CONTINUED TO BUILD WINS, BUT ON AN INCONSISTENT BASIS —
 AND NOW THEY ENTER THE ALL-STAR BREAK WITH LOSSES IN THREE OF THEIR PAST
FOUR GAMES.

"尼克開季狀態火熱，打出了8-1，之後是20-8，這都多虧了他們火熱的三分手感跟極棒防守

透過三分，他們成功建立起勝利的基礎，但這並不是穩定取分的方式，在明星賽前，

尼克4場比賽中輸了3場。"


Agree mostly with what was written here. New York started off fast and has
now tailed off. In their last 27 games the Knicks are 14-13, that’s not good.

恩...大致上他這裡寫的我非常同意，尼克開季火熱，但他們最近的27場只打出14-13

這可不是個好成績阿。


WHILE INJURIES AND PLAYERS RETURNING TO THE LINEUP HAVE DELAYED THEIR
DEVELOPMENT SOMEWHAT, THIS CAN’T BE IGNORED: THE KNICKS’ OFFENSE IS TOO
SIMPLISTIC RIGHT NOW. MIKE WOODSON CONTINUES TO ALLOW ANTHONY, RAYMOND FELTON
AND J.R. SMITH TO DOMINATE THE BALL AND THE REST SEEMS TO BE MOSTLY
FREELANCE, WITH ROLE PLAYERS POSITIONED BEYOND THE ARC FOR HOPEFUL 3-POINTERS.

"他們在這段期間遇到了傷痛問題跟傷兵歸隊問題，這讓他們需要磨合更長一段時間，

這是我們不能忽略的部分，而尼克的進攻現在太過於簡單化了，武僧持續地把球權放給

胖瓜，小胖子，JR，而其他人則是自由的活動，說穿了大部分的角色都是站著等投3分。

一言已概之，就是要他們都當好三分射手的角色。"


What would you like Mike Woodson to do? Melo, Felton and Smith are the only
New York players who play significant minutes that are capable of initiating
the offense. Pablo Prigioni can when he gets the opportunity, but his minutes
aren’t consistent. Jason Kidd and Iman Shumpert can be relied upon in small
dozes, but if you ask them to for long stretches, you better be ready to deal
with a bump up in turnovers. It makes zero sense to put the ball in Tyson
Chandler’s hands more. When Amar’e Stoudemire is on the court, the offense
is run through him plenty – he has a usage rate of 25.5%.

如果你是武僧你會怎麼做呢?胖瓜，小胖子，JR是尼克陣中少數可以扛上大部分時間還有

能力可以組織進攻的人，當然老普有機會上場的話也可以，但他的上場時間太不穩定，

老基跟香波比較適合短時間的組織，如果你要他們兩個扛上大部分時間，那你可能要準備

好接受TO爆增的情況，這對於讓老錢多拿到球可是沒甚麼意義阿。

而當阿罵上場時，進攻大多會透過他，他現在被使用率可是有25.5%呢。


THAT HAS MADE SOME OF KNICKS FEEL UNDER-UTILIZED, ONE SOURCE CLOSE TO THE
TEAM SAID, BECAUSE NOW THEY’RE JUST STAND-AND-WAIT-FOR-THE-BALL SHOOTERS.

"情報指出有些尼克成員表示現在小陣容打法中他們只是等球射手。"


For people on this Knicks roster to be complaining about their role they
would have to have a disconnect with the reality of what they are capable of
doing as a basketball player. I could somewhat understand if it’s Shumpert
whining, and from other stories that can’t be ruled out. The only other
player it makes sense with would be Amar’e. But if STAT slightly grasps the
concept of trying to extend his career, you would think he would be on board
with how he is currently being used. I don’t see anyone on this roster that
is in a situation that they should be upset with.

對於在陣容的尼克球員他們會去抱怨他們的角色，而讓他們遠離身為一個籃球員的能力
                           (這裡好像是說因為只要等球射三分，所以不用太多技巧)
我大概可以理解如果香波在那邊碎嘴的聲音，而其他報導可不會放過這種事，唯一有資格

可以站出來碎嘴的大概就是阿罵了，但如果阿罵對他的未來定位抓到一點頭緒還有想延長

他的職業生涯，那麼你會認為他現在正被正確的使用中，我並不認為任何一個尼克球員在

目前的情況裡有他們應該感到不滿的地方。


“THE OFFENSE IS TOO BASIC AND IT NEEDS SOME TWEAKING. WATCHING MELO DO HIS
THING GETS OLD FAST,” ONE NBA SCOUT SAID. “I THINK THE OFFENSE NEEDS MORE
MOTION IN IT, SO THAT GUYS’ TALENTS CAN BE USED MORE. I THINK THE EARLY
SUCCESS HURT THEM BECAUSE NOW OPPONENTS KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND HOW TO
DEFEND IT. THEY TRULY ARE A 3-POINT SHOOTING TEAM, AND YOU CAN’T WIN IN THE
LONG RUN THAT WAY. NELLIE’S (DON NELSON’S) MAVERICKS TEAMS WENT THROUGH
THAT.”

"有一位NBA球探是這麼說的:'這進攻也太制式化了，而且還需要再多揉合，看看瓜他現在

打得越來越老人了。'

'我認為尼克進攻應該要再多跑動，再多把大家的天賦融合再一起。我認為他們季初的成功

害了他們，因為現在對手都知道他們會怎麼做了而且要怎麼防了，尼克現在真的是支三分

球隊了，但從長遠的角度來看這招可走不遠啊，老尼的小牛隊就證明過了。'"


Ahhhh one of my favorites, the notion that you can’t win basketball games
shooting three pointers. Some teams win games by shooting threes, other win
with it being a lesser part of their offense. In 2010-2011 the Mavericks won
the NBA Championship and shot the fifth most threes in the NBA. The Nellie
ball Mavericks won over 50 games in four of his six full seasons as head
coach and one of those four was a 60 win campaign. How is that not winning in
the long run? The bigger reason Dallas didn’t make it to the Finals during
that stretch was the simple fact they in an absolutely loaded Western
Conference. Their playoff defeats came at the hands of the Spurs – 58 wins,
Kings – 61 wins, Spurs – 60 wins and Kings – 55 wins. If the Mavericks
magically got moved to the Eastern Conference during that stretch they would
have made the NBA Finals at least once, maybe multiple times.

The other part about the Knicks offense being too basic is definitely a
possibility. I’m not a basketball coach nor a true X’s and O’s guy, but
when you read about some of the other concepts teams use it seems there are
some things Coach Woodson could incorporate to try and create a better flow
with easier opportunities.

阿阿阿阿這可是我最愛的部分阿，大家都會說你這樣投三分是贏不了籃球比賽的。

但有些隊伍可是靠這招贏下比賽呢，還記得2010-11年的小牛嗎?他們當時可是全NBA中最愛

投三分的第五名阿!!那年他們拿到了NBA總冠軍，老尼的小牛贏了50場比賽，他們還曾經拿

過60勝咧~

為何這種方式從長遠的角度來說走不遠?而老尼的小牛那幾年到不了總冠軍賽的原因

是因為他們遇到的對手是當年58勝的馬刺，61勝的國王，60勝的馬刺，55勝的國王。

如果小牛那幾年可以在東區打季後賽，那他們應該至少會有一次可以抵達總冠軍賽。

至於關於尼克的進攻太過於制式化這點我是贊同的。

我不是籃球教練，也不是甚麼鍵盤籃球天才，但當你去閱讀一些關於團隊的概念時，你會

發現武僧教練其實是有試著去融入一些，試著去創造更好的流動性，跟更好的機會。


THIS SEASON, WOODSON HAS REPEATEDLY SAID HE NEEDS TO HELP CERTAIN ROLE
PLAYERS — NOTABLY STEVE NOVAK, RONNIE BREWER AND IMAN SHUMPERT — AND THAT
HAS TO HAPPEN AFTER THE ALL-STAR BREAK. MORE OF A TEAM APPROACH IS NECESSARY.
BEFORE THE SEASON, MELO SPOKE ABOUT SACRIFICING POINTS FOR THE GREATER GOOD
OF THE TEAM. BUT HE’S NOW THE LEAGUE’S SECOND-LEADING SCORER (28.6 POINTS
PER GAME), AND RECENTLY HE HASN’T HAD MUCH HELP FROM HIS SUPPORTING CAST.

"這個賽季，武僧不斷的重複說他需要幫助像NOVAK，小酒，香波這樣的角色球員，而在

明星賽後，要有更好的團隊是必要的，瓜曾說過為團隊犧牲得分，但她現在可是聯盟中

第二得分高手(場均28.6)，而且他最近還說他需要其他人的幫助。"


New York does need to do a better job finding Steve Novak shots and helping
Iman Shumpert get more comfortable. I don’t see how Brewer’s role would
change much from what it was before – standing in the corner and the
occasional cut is what he does. A lot of the success these players should
have is playing off Melo and the Felton/Chandler pick and roll.

痾...尼克的確需要讓NOVAK跟香波更加融入，但我真的不知道小酒的角色可以有啥改變，

阿不就站在底角等著投籃跟偶爾空切一下，還有防守嗎?這些球員的成功可能要更加依靠

瓜的表現還有肥頓打P&R的表現...。


THE KNICKS ALSO NEED TO COME TOGETHER ON DEFENSE, AND IT STARTS WITH HOW THEY
GET BACK INTO FORMATION IN TRANSITION AND ROTATE WHILE GUARDING PICK AND
ROLLS. TOO MANY TIMES RECENTLY, OPPONENTS HAVE SCORED EASILY OFF SCREENS
BECAUSE THE KNICKS’ SWITCHES ARE OFF. THAT LEADS TO A PERSONNEL QUESTION:
DOES WOODSON NEED TO JUGGLE THE STARTING FIVE TO INCLUDE DEFENSIVE SPECIALIST
BREWER OR JAMES WHITE? BREWER WOULD LIKELY GET THE NOD BECAUSE HE PLAYED WELL
AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SEASON WHEN THE KNICKS WENT 11-4 IN NOVEMBER.

"尼克也需要好好思考怎麼防守了，他們得要找回開季的防守，他們最近真的讓人太容易

得分了，因為尼克最近輪轉真是爛透了，這又回到個人問題了，我覺得武僧需要調整一

下先發了，多把幾個防守專家進去，像是小酒拉，小白拉，小酒看起來更勝任這個工作，

因為他開季的時候表現很棒啊，當時尼克可是11-4呢。"


There is no debate the Knicks need to improve on the defensive end of the
court. In their 18 losses this season NY’s DRtg is a 109.9 and in their wins
it’s a 99.9. That is way too many games of playing porous defense. In the
last five games the DRtg has jumped to 107.2 up, just over four points on the
Knicks’ season average. Side note –I like James White, if he got 7-10
minutes a night for a little bit to see if he could contribute I would have
no problem with it, but calling White a defensive specialist is a little much
for me.

The rest of the story begins a discussion on what line-ups the Knicks should
use, which is an entirely different column in itself.

Jared brings up some fair points, but there were some angles that made me
think twice.

我舉雙手雙腳贊成尼克需要加強防守，在他們18場敗場中DRtg是109.9而他們贏的那幾場

則是99.9!!!這就是他們有太多場比賽打出有漏洞的防守，在最近的五場還上升到107.9+
                               (按:現在你知道那群傢伙最近有多不愛防守了)
這可是比尼克這季的平均還要多4分阿!!!!!，話說我喜歡小白，如果他有7-10分鐘的上場

那他可能可以做出一些貢獻，但是要說小白是防守專家，這又有點太超過囉~

剩下的報導大致上就是討論尼克要怎樣用他們的陣容拉~

總之jz提供了一些公平的論點，但他們有些想法跟我不同就是了。


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這篇蠻有趣的，兩邊感覺都蠻有理的XD 噢還有藍色的字好像不完全是JZ說的

大多都是紐媒最近在討論的事吧ˊ_>ˋ


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※ 編輯: BSH99           來自: 180.218.213.115      (02/18 02:26)
推 Jefa910:小酒開季的抄截跟空切都很亮眼  還能幫搶板
→ Jefa910:領先時可以用他來調節先發體力
推 rioslo:小酒現在連垃圾時間都不一定看得到他了Ｑ＿＿Ｑ
推 skymay:紐媒跟球迷一樣都很擔心尼克的問題 XDDD 是說尼克教練真的
→ skymay:不好當，外在聲音超多的 XDD
推 md1011:不過本篇說的挺中肯, 進攻單調, 防守不力, 的確是問題
推 Dopin:我無法判斷到底是 球員執行不力 / 招式被看破 / 教練指示 比
→ Dopin:賽的跑動跟戰術跟下棋類似 只是多了命中率行不行的問題 (死)
→ Dopin:勝者為王敗者為寇 贏了瑕不掩瑜就可忽略 但輸多了總是要找點
→ Dopin:可以改的地方 但最近尼克實在有點謎 所以再觀察一陣 /.\
推 fireunicorn:拳王哪裡有說這句話阿...@@?
→ fireunicorn:喔...我眼花了...= =
推 mywu:用另外一個角度來看事情也許能夠看出盲點吧
推 chen06:難道要瓜打的像辮子頭時一樣？不過現在變胖飛不太起來了 XD
→ chen06:謝謝翻譯
→ chen06:希望能讓小酒回先發試試，也讓CC多點上場時間
→ chen06:CC手感來時搶分是強項(防守要加強)不過現在全隊都要加強吧
推 BleuOmbre:用人很保守 :(
推 zero73413:真的 我覺得小酒防守功能要拿來先發用啊! 別再冰他了Q_Q
我心目中的角色定位可以像這樣~
          1          2         3

PG       肥頓   /   老基  /   老普

SG       香波   /   JR    /   小酒  /  老基(偶爾代打)  /肥頓(偶爾代打)

SF       瓜     /   小酒  /   NOVAK /  CC

PF       阿罵   / 西蛙阿北/   NOVAK /  CC      /  老湯

C        老錢   /   CAMBY /   阿罵  / 西蛙阿北

阿罵要不要先發我無所謂，他能健康我就滿意了，但小酒至少給個替補SF拉~~

至於小白...對不起我排不出他的位子了Q.Q
※ 編輯: BSH99           來自: 180.218.213.115      (02/18 21:42)
推 HidakaShu:開季前陣容確定時，就有預想到小酒在傷兵歸隊後上場時間
→ HidakaShu:會變少，但沒想到是掉出輪值QQ
→ jerrystarks:他會掉出輪值應該是因為本來就有傷而且進攻太悲劇了
→ jerrystarks:比NOVAK的防守還悲劇..
推 skymay:我真的覺得別再讓瓜扛大前了，太浪費他的體力了，這樣也會
→ skymay:導致他進攻時投籃的不穩定，時常打鐵
→ skymay:像他今天打sg和sf又不用控球就很輕鬆寫意
推 fireunicorn:大家還是會把NOVAK往後排吧~沒辦法板凳太多人了XDD
推 kid1412815:淚推NOVAK跟小酒...
推 Jefa910:不用窮緊張啦  接下來穩贏的啦