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標題[外電] For Knicks,Spacing Out Is a Good Thing
時間Sat Nov 16 11:57:39 2013
For Knicks, Spacing Out Is a Good Thing
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Posted on November 15, 2013 by Taylor Armosino
Last season, New York’s third-ranked NBA offense was fueled by small
lineups, great floor spacing and record-setting three-point shooting. Through
the first few games of this season — in some cases due to necessity, if not
by design — the formula had changed. Canadian import Andrea Bargnani was
inserted into the starting lineup and Carmelo Anthony was pushed back to his
natural small-forward position. Predictably, Bargs struggled to fit within
the framework of the offense and his teammates struggled to adjust to him. He
wasn’t effectively spacing the floor and teams were sagging off of him to
help defend other players, mostly ‘Melo. New York’s offense had no
identity, no floor spacing, and no results. The Knicks were not generating
good three-point attempts, opting instead for a dearth of long-twos,
post-ups, isolations and turnovers. If numbers are your thing, New York
scored just 90.2 points-per-100 possessions with the
Anthony-Bargnani-Chandler trio on the floor.
上個賽季尼克用全聯盟第三兇猛的火力打出漂亮的小球球風,極棒的空間運用,創紀錄的
三分球數,但在本季初的幾場比賽,有些時候打法已經改變了,巴格壓尼的加入,讓瓜重
回三號位,但如同預料的一樣,巴格壓尼掙扎於融入體系,而他的隊友也為了適應他持續
調整中,巴格壓尼沒辦法有效地拉開空間,大多時候,"melo"就是尼克的進攻代名詞,沒
有特性,沒有空間,沒有結果的進攻,尼克無法打出有效益的三分,反而出現一堆長距離
二分球,單打,低位,失誤。看看這數字吧,瓜巴錢在場時,尼克本季每100回合才得
90.2分。
In order to demonstrate just how effective last year’s offensive strategy
was for New York, I compiled the top ten teams in both three point shot
attempts and mid-range shot attempts during the 2012-13 season. Not
surprisingly, those teams with better offenses tended to shoot a lot of
threes. In a nutshell, good offenses shoot a lot of threes and bad offenses
shoot a lot of mid-range jumpers:
為了證實我說的,那你們看看去年尼克的進攻是多麼的有效。
這是2012-13賽季中十個隊的三分球出手數跟中距離。
圖:
http://ppt.cc/AYTd
That’s not to say that the mid-range game is useless in today’s NBA. It’s
not. Running action through the elbow is a common and effective way to run an
offense, and sometimes it results in a long-two being an open look that
shouldn’t be passed up. Players like Kevin Garnett and Kobe Bryant have made
careers out of being deathly efficient mid-range shooters, but their lethal
approach puts them in the vast minority. (If the current trends continue, in
time, defenses may actually force teams to become more proficient at
mid-range shooting, but that is conversation for another day.)
我並不是在說中距離在nba已經逐漸的無用武之地了,而是應該透過有效的跑動使用肘區
來運行進攻,有時候有空檔的長距離兩分球是不該放過的出手機會,就像KG或KB這種有名
的中距離射手,但在聯盟中他們畢竟只是少數。(如果目前的風氣繼續下去,假以時日,
目前NBA的防守策略會讓更多球隊更加熟練中距離投籃,不過那是未來的事了。)
Since Tyson Chandler went down with a broken leg in game four of the season,
New York’s offense has been much, much better. Coach Woodson has been forced
to play smaller lineups with Anthony at the four and Bargnani starting at the
five. Both have been more productive offensively, and their production has
positively impacted the rest of the team. Why? It’s the floor spacing and
shot selection, Stupid! With Bargnani’s ability to shoot from the outside,
the Knicks have been able to play a 5-out offense, similar to what we saw
last season when Chris Copeland filled in for Chandler at center. The spacing
has transformed from this:
當老錢傷退後,尼克的進攻變得更好了,武僧被迫用小球陣容,瓜四號,巴格五號。
這讓他們打出更有效益的進攻,為什麼會這樣呢? 這就是空間運用跟投籃選擇的影響嗎,
當巴格有能力在外線投籃時,尼克場上擁有五位可以外線投射的球員,就像是我們上賽季
看到CC替補老錢打五號位的情況一樣。
就像這樣 本季對公牛:
http://ppt.cc/lrpT
變成這樣 本季對老鷹:
http://ppt.cc/PC4-
Though New York’s three-point attempts have only increased slightly over the
last four games, they have hit those shots at a much higher percentage
(37.6%, up from 29.9% with Tyson in the lineup). Freed from the shackles of
poor early season spacing, Anthony and Bargnani, in particular, have thrived.
For ‘Melo, it’s simple. He is a power-forward who’s at his best when he
has room to get into the post or to drive to the rim. He’s also a lethal
spot-up shooter, but prior to the Woodon going back to small ball, Anthony
wasn’t getting good looks with the Knicks unable to space the floor and
create lanes. Without space around him, Anthony settles for far too many
outside shots and isn’t nearly as effective as a scorer. This, and we have
nearly two season’s worth of incontrovertible data that proves Carmelo to be
a dominant offensive force when he is playing power-forward. With many teams
league downsizing to smaller lineups, Anthony is perfect in the role, too.
雖然尼克的三分球出手數只比前四場多了一些些,但是他們的命中率已經從29.9%上升到
37.6%了。
尼克已經從一開始的空間運用不佳慢慢掙脫出來了,尤其是瓜跟巴格壓尼。
這對於瓜來說是很簡單的事,當他打四號位時,他有絕佳的空間來單打跟切入,他同時也
是個致命的跳投射手,但當武僧要求瓜回到三號位時,上述的優勢全都沒了,尼克拉不開
空間,反而讓瓜有更多無謂的外線跳投,讓他的效率低落,從這點來說,不得不承認瓜打
四號位的進攻統治力,是全聯盟打小球的球隊都夢寐以求的,瓜在這位子上是完美的。
For his part — and I know, small sample size, but — Bargnani has been
reborn playing center for the Knicks. He is playing like a man possessed. Now
shooting over 50% on the season and 44.4% from three, New York’s improved
spacing has done wonders for his game. Schematically, Woodson’s Knicks
prefer to deploy the center as the primary screener in the offense, so
naturally Bargs has been much more involved. His ability to pick-and-pop puts
defenses in awkward spots, and with smaller Knick lineups forcing opponents
to match-up, has often found himself facing smaller defenders who cannot deal
with his jumper. He also has the unique ability for a man of his size to put
the ball on the floor and create for himself, something that should continue
to come in very handy with more space for him to operate. Without clutter in
the lane and mid-range area, Bargnani can also unleash his excellent
pump-fakes.
至於巴格壓尼,我知道樣本數還太少,但是巴格壓尼在尼克浴火重生了,他根本走火入魔
了,現在他命中率高達50%,44.4%的三分命中率。尼克的空間運用變得如此好,有很多
都是他的功勞,武僧的尼克在進攻上更傾向於讓中鋒作為主要的掩護者,這讓巴格壓尼
更具影響力,他能打P&R,也能P&P,當尼克使用小陣容時,會迫使對手用更矮小的球員來
對位他,而小矮子是無法阻止他的。
巴格壓尼並不是只會跳投爾已,他也是個能夠運球切入創造機會的大個子,有時候他會
自行創造更多的空間來得分。
就像這樣
影片:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fsoXhgv8Mlw
With the offense seemingly headed in the right direction, it will be critical
for the Knicks to maintain the recent improvement in spacing and shooting
after Chandler returns. The obvious way to do that is move Bargnani to the
bench and to start Anthony at power forward alongside Chandler, though it
remains to be seen if the coach will see the light. Splitting up Bargnani and
Anthony can actually be a good thing. We all know that the duo cannot survive
together defensively over the long haul, anyway. When Chandler is on the
floor, he is always going to be the primary screener and Bargnani isn’t
great playing off the ball. Woodson’s offense is at its most effective when
it forces defenses to choose between collapsing on Chandler or staying put on
outside shooters. Unfortunately, Bargnani doesn’t fit well in that structure
because he doesn’t have a natural feel for spacing, often drifting into the
paint where he is comfortable.
看起來尼克的進攻正走在對的方向,如果在老錢回歸後尼克仍能保持這樣的空間運用跟
投籃選擇,那尼克將是非常致命的球隊。
目前看起來最好方法就是讓巴格回歸板凳,瓜四號,老錢五號。
把瓜跟巴格壓尼分開使用未嘗不是件好事,我們都知道他們兩個同在時的防守...呵呵
而當老錢在場時,老錢會成為主要的掩護手,而巴格壓尼不善於無球打法。
武僧的進攻被迫要從因老錢而降低進攻效率,或是因老錢缺席而防守破洞兩者中做出抉擇。
不幸的,巴格壓尼看起來是無法融入體系,因為如果他沒有好的空間的話,就會經常在
油漆區附近徘徊當遊魂。
Sure, it was only four games, but early on we saw defenses leaving completely
Bargnani open in favor of collapsing on Chandler or double-teaming Anthony in
the post. The Knicks would be best served by getting Bargs the ball at the
elbows or as a screener, and as a high usage bench-big, he would have more
opportunity to be in those situations without mucking up the spacing. On the
defensive end, Bargs has shown himself to be a passable post-up defender, but
the rest of his D is positively atrocious. In Chandler’s absence, New York
has had virtually no pick-and-roll defense, and it’s been a practical layup
line for the opposition when Bargs is on the floor. That said, with Bargs
coming off the bench, Woodson can deploy Kenyon Martin at power
forward/defensive anchor or, in the alternative, Metta World Peace, who can
provide a boost for the offense.
當然,尼克的瓜巴錢才打四場,當我們已經看到防守是如何的崩潰,瓜又是如何地在低位被
瘋狂包夾。
尼克最好的辦法就是讓巴格壓尼在肘區活動,讓他當主要的掩護手。當更有效的板凳殺手。
在這些情況下,巴格壓尼不用去擔心空間運用問題,而在防守端,巴格壓尼也證明了自己
勉強是個合格的"低位"防守者,但其他部分則是...悲劇。老錢的缺席,讓我們看到尼克
基本上沒有對應P&R的防守能力,當巴格上場時,場上盡量要有K罵或阿平這種球員來幫他
擦屁股。
Going forward, fans will have to hope that Woodson doesn’t continue to go
against what works in favor of experimenting with lineups that do not. If he
chooses to roll the dice on the Anthony-Bargnani-Chandler trio, the Knicks
will likely struggle. But if he does what works best – playing small lineups
and using Bargnani as more than a spot-up threat – this offense can be
really good again. New York — despite last night’s loss against Houston —
is finally starting to show some signs of life and there is no reason why
the offense cannot be as dangerous as it was last season. The formula for
success is there, Woodson just has to be smart enough to use it.
當然,我想球迷也希望武僧不要在實驗陣容了。
如果他選擇繼續練瓜巴錢,那尼克可能會繼續掙扎,但如果他決定要打小球球風,並讓
巴格壓尼有更多的威脅,這看起來將會是個不錯的選擇。
儘管昨天輸給休士頓,但至少尼克讓我們看到他們有復活的跡象,畢竟這套打法在上季已
證明過他是有效的,希望武僧聰明點,打小球戰術吧!
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有錯要告知一下喔~~~
話說巴格這幾場效率真的....不錯,在這麼維持下去,我看我準備進醫院維修一個月了Q.Q
PLAYERS MIN FGM-A 3PM-A FTM-A +/- OR DR TR AS PF ST TO BS BA PTS EFF
Bargnani C 32:58 9-12 3-3 3-4 + 7 3 1 4 0 5 0 0 1 1 24 25
Bargnani C 30:59 8-15 2-4 2-2 + 6 4 7 11 2 2 0 1 1 1 20 26
Bargnani C 26:01 5-10 1-2 5-6 -26 0 1 1 0 2 0 1 0 0 16 10
Bargnani C 34:48 11-25 3-9 0-0 +14 3 5 8 3 1 0 1 5 1 25 26
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推 mywu:BSH大以後要比賽前冰塊要準備好隔天冰敷腫腫的臉阿 XD 11/16 12:01
→ jerrystarks:拳王中距離能持續進步的話,放瓜巴錢一點問題都沒有 11/16 12:28
推 knicks8888:照現在看來Bargnani最擅長的是中距離 11/16 13:01
→ knicks8888:在比賽初期就必需一直餵給他中投的機會 11/16 13:02
→ knicks8888:投順了三分的把握性跟機會也會漸漸出來 11/16 13:02
→ knicks8888:我認為雙塔加瓜是可行的 11/16 13:03
→ knicks8888:不過內線還是得補人 11/16 13:03
推 kuchibu:狀元進攻就是要能做給他啊 他是有自信的球員 11/16 13:20
推 MrRedHair:雖然melo打四號真的很累 但不得不說他根本就是這塊料 11/16 13:25
→ MrRedHair:只是自己沒自覺 11/16 13:25
→ BSH99:雙塔加瓜 前提就像J大講得要老錢的中距離有威脅才有效 11/16 13:28
→ BSH99:不然巴格依舊會在外圍徘徊當遊魂或瓜不斷的外線投射看天吃飯 11/16 13:30
推 ILNARA:真的要被定位4號位了... 11/16 16:10
→ ILNARA:其實過去melo超快第一步還在的時候 在SF強度勝過現在XDD 11/16 16:11
→ ILNARA:只是melo打4號位 不是不行 只是如果他再高個2-3吋更適合.. 11/16 16:12
推 Jefa910:BSH大大 可以靠右邊一點嗎 你的臉擋住這篇文章了 11/16 16:33
推 skymay:快幫Melo找個替補吧,他都當持久王不知道多久了,他不是生 11/16 17:57
→ skymay:化人阿 11/16 17:57
推 jayelva:不太懂為何瓜打四號位有優勢,是因為能切能投嗎? 感覺這 11/16 18:12
→ jayelva:篇文章更著重於狀元打五號? 11/16 18:12
推 uuuc1223:以前金塊打三號還不是好好的 進攻戰術真的很單調 11/16 18:20
→ uuuc1223:雖然以前melo切入比較強 但是現在射程更廣 11/16 18:20
→ Zeka6721:空間跟面對防守時的相對位置 打3號可能一樣成功 但幫助不 11/16 18:36
→ Zeka6721:了隊友進攻 沒有Melo拉扯防守站位攻擊機會就不會出來 11/16 18:39
→ BSH99:\(# ̄▽ ̄#)/ 我擋~ 我覺得瓜現在在四號能做的比三號還多 11/16 18:55
推 esther81828:其實我記得上一季就已經有分析說瓜在四號的作用更好XD 11/16 19:16
推 HidakaShu:要短時間讓拳王的中距離穩定到有威脅性太難了 11/16 19:19
→ HidakaShu:目前只能打小球,我們的戰績沒有本錢去實驗新陣容了... 11/16 19:20
→ BSH99:他只要敢投就好了拉 總比都被放空還是把球傳給別人好XD 11/16 19:33
推 osape:照BSH大的數據來看,巴尼亞尼的籃板是隔場休的 11/16 20:05
→ osape:也就是明天打老鷹大概又是1籃板,凶多吉少...T.T 11/16 20:06
推 MrRedHair:能切能投 身材厚重又很會撞 就差身高了 11/16 22:10
推 BleuOmbre:別再實驗陣容了,年年都要找新人來試到季末 orz 11/16 23:03
→ BleuOmbre:Melo 的問題是防守,進攻從來不是他要擔心的 11/16 23:04