作者BSH99 (BSH99)
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標題Re: [心得]謝謝武僧
時間Mon May 5 00:54:02 2014
不論武僧這季表現得如何,他的確帶給我們近幾年來成績最好的尼克。
http://ppt.cc/U8aW
Mike Woodson's long goodbye
By Beckley Mason
Special to ESPN.com
圖:
http://ppt.cc/jF0t
(Ousted New York Knicks coach Mike Woodson never found sustained success in
two-plus seasons.)
After two and a half tumultuous years, Mike Woodson’s term as New York
Knicks head coach came to a close Monday morning. His dismissal ends what
was, even by the Knicks’ standards, a strange chapter in recent NBA history.
在經過了兩年半吵鬧的時光,武僧的尼克在今年宣告結束了。
隨著武僧的被解雇,武僧的尼克這個奇怪的章節就這樣結束在NBA歷史中了。
Woodson’s coaching reputation has swung wildly over the last 26 months.
Under Woodson’s direction, the Knicks went 72-34 from when he took over for
Mike D’Antoni in March 2012 through the end of the 2012-13 season. It’s not
as if Woodson’s name was mud before the Knicks' 100-game hot streak, but his
regular-season success in Atlanta -- the team won more games than the year
before in five consecutive seasons -- was tainted by Atlanta’s inability to
make noise in the playoffs. The Hawks never lost to a lower seed, but they
never really looked capable of a deep playoff run, either.
武僧的執教評價在過去的26個月中像雲霄飛車般的瘋狂起伏。
在武僧的指導下,尼克從2012年冷笑話下台到2012-13賽季打出72勝34敗的成績。
這並不表示武僧在到尼克之前是默默無名的。
實際上他之前在老鷹就有成功的經驗,老鷹連續五年例行賽戰績都有所進步。
但是他們並沒辦法在季後賽打出一片天,老鷹從未被下剋上過,但他們也沒打出能爭奪
總冠軍的表現。
After his time in Atlanta, critics cast Woodson as inflexible and somewhat
dreary from a tactical standpoint. Woodson’s isolation-heavy offense
repeatedly broke down in the playoffs, and his Hawks never had an effective
backup plan.
在武僧離開老鷹後,批評者說武僧頑固,不知變通,戰術單調,武僧的單打進攻在季後賽
被打得落花流水。他的老鷹從未有有效的B計畫。
But after coaching under Mike D’Antoni with the Knicks, Woodson seemed to
become a believer in the spread pick-and-roll, and his Knicks rode that
action, and a barrage of 3-pointers, to a 54-win season in 2012-13. The
conversation around Woodson changed almost overnight: He had won full buy-in
from Carmelo Anthony and somehow kept J.R. Smith focused; he modernized his
offense and embraced the state of the art in basketball strategy.
在接任冷笑話的尼克後,武僧似乎變成了P&R的忠實信徒,他的尼克動力十足,還有驚人的
三分火力,在2012-13賽季轟下了54勝。
這一夜,所有談論武僧的評論全變了,他得到了瓜的信任,他還訓服了JR-讓他專心打球。
武僧的尼克打出了現代化的進攻,而且還走在籃球戰術的潮流尖端!
The Knicks, for the first time in a long time, exceeded expectations. Was it
Woodson? Or were the Knicks just more talented than people realized? Wasn't
it Woodson who made Jason Kidd, Pablo Prigioni, Steve Novak and Chris
Copeland useful players?
尼克第一次打出了近年內最驚人的表現。這是武僧的功勞嗎?
還是說這只是證明了尼克的球員本就有驚人的天賦。
難道不是武僧讓老基,老普,NOVAK,CC成為了更有效的球員?
Before the 2012-13 season, Wages of Wins combination of metrics and analysis
predicted the Knicks would be the top seed in the East. The two main reasons
were Kidd and Tyson Chandler, the point guard-center battery of the 2011
champion Mavericks. Kidd was old, sure, but he still made his teams better
with rebounding, shooting and crisp ball movement. With the Knicks, Kidd’s
play became the shared language through which Anthony’s game could
communicate with the spread pick-and-roll.
在2012-13賽季之前,Wins combination(數據分析網)預測尼克可以打入東區頂尖。
最主要的兩個原因之一是老基跟老錢,兩位皆是2011年冠軍隊的球員。
老基的確是老了,但他仍能藉由籃板,投籃,傳導讓他的球隊變得更好。
在尼克,老基成功的讓瓜哥單打戰術跟P&R連結在一塊。
When Kidd retired, the Knicks’ half-court offense descended into Babel.
Again, this was partly due to situations outside of Woodson’s control. In
the offseason, the Knicks replaced important shooters Novak, Kidd and
Copeland with Metta World Peace and Andrea Bargnani. World Peace was a
defensive contributor during a brief period of good health, but otherwise the
Knicks essentially scrapped the identity that made them so dangerous -- great
ball movement and killer shooting -- in favor of big names.
當老基高掛球鞋,穿起西裝後,尼克的進攻再次陷入瓶頸。
會這樣的原因有一部分是有些情況已經不是武僧可以控制的,比如說,休賽季尼克失去了
NOVAK,CC跟老基這些外線射手,取而代之的是阿平跟巴格壓尼。
阿平還健康時在防守上的確曾經給過貢獻,但基本上尼克已經失去了12-13賽季那種轉移
球跟瘋狂三分雨的能力了...
The same Wages of Wins analysts who picked the Knicks to be very good in
2012-13, then picked the Knicks to finish outside the playoffs, as did the
SCHOENE metric developed by ESPN.com’s Kevin Pelton.
Whether Woodson ever really believed in the free-wheeling, 3-pointer crazed
offense of 2012-13 is an open question. The Knicks abandoned their small-ball
strengths at the first sign of trouble in the 2013 playoffs, abdicating their
perimeter advantage to wage an unwinnable war inside against the Pacers. And
this season, Woodson often professed a desire -- possibly at behest of the
front office -- to make the “Big” lineups work, even though playing
Bargnani, Anthony and Chandler together had miserable results.
在Wages of Wins的分析中尼克在2012-13賽季非常棒。
不管武僧是否真的完全接受這種瘋狂的開放式進攻。
可以發現的是當尼克在12-13賽季的季後賽中,一旦他們的小球戰術遇到了一些困難,
他們很輕易地就捨去了他們的優勢,改用打不贏的方式去對抗溜馬。(意旨改主打大個)
直到這個賽季,武僧仍有種思維-一但他有足夠的內線球員,他就會想要打大個陣容。
即使巴格壓尼,瓜,老錢一起上場簡直是慘不忍睹...。
Strategy aside, if you consider the variable roster quality during the last
two seasons, it is hard to say whether Woodson is responsible at all for
either the good times or the bad ones.
Doubt that those role players the Knicks lost in the offseason really matter
enough to so dramatically swing the Knicks' win-loss records? The fact is
Carmelo Anthony was actually better this season than he was last season.
Logic argues that he wasn't the controlling factor in the Knicks' success.
先不談戰術,當你看看這兩個賽季的陣容,很難去說武僧是否要為這兩個賽季無論好或壞
負責。
那麼該質疑的是尼克失去的那些球員是否是重大時刻的關鍵球員呢?
事實是瓜這個賽季比12-13賽季表現得還要好,照這樣的邏輯去說,瓜哥是否不是決定尼
克是否成功的關鍵球員。
With Kidd and the shooters gone and Chandler hobbled, the Knicks just didn't
have a very good roster -- so they weren't a very good team.
This gets us closer to the truth of Woodson’s value as a coach. Of course
his teams in Atlanta got better every year, the roster improved every year,
too!
隨著老基跟那些射手的離去,加上老錢逐漸老化,尼克只是不再擁有好的陣容-所以他們
已經不是支好球隊了。
這可以告訴我們-武僧這位教練的價值,當然他在老鷹時他的戰績每年都逐漸變好,因為
老鷹的陣容一年比一年好。
Young stars such as Josh Smith and Al Horford joined the Hawks as rookies and
followed a logical trend: They were better at 21 than 20, and better at 24
than 23.
History suggests Woodson does not make his teams better, nor does he really
inhibit them. He puts his players in positions to succeed, but he is no Rick
Carlisle, masking flaws with smoke and mirrors.
年輕的球員:Josh Smith跟Al Horford在還是菜鳥時加入老鷹,然後每一年都在變強。
從這些歷史數據來看,武僧並沒辦法讓他的球隊變得更好,同樣的他也沒有讓他的球隊
無法進步,他讓那些球員在他們的位子發光發熱,只是他不是Rick Carlisle(小牛教練)
有種魔力可以掩飾缺點。
Given the Knicks’ lack of draft picks and tradable assets, the roster
probably won't be much stronger next year. If they want a significantly
better record, they'll need to find a coach who can win more games than
player quality projects.
Woodson will be remembered as a players' coach, one who forged strong bonds
with difficult personalities but never found a way to make them much better
than they already were.
由於尼克缺少選秀權跟可交易的資產,這個陣容可能明年也不會變好,如果他們想要一個
更好的陣容,他們得要找個可以贏更多場比賽並且讓球員超進化的教練。
武僧是位屬於"球員"的教練,他能讓球員們彼此連繫在一起,但他沒辦法讓他們更進一步。
(簡單來說就是位會帶心,但是戰術部分比較缺乏。他能讓球員們打出他們應有的天賦。
但無法讓球員們的天賦更進一步的發展)
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但他還是帶來了近年來最好的尼克,感謝他。
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