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標題[外電] Winter Ecstatic About Gasol, But He Wants Odom To Play B
時間Mon Feb 4 10:33:28 2008
By Roland Lazenby | triangle offense, Mitch Kupchak, The Show with Roland
Lazenby, Tex Winter, Los Angeles Lakers
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The triangle offense has long been known as a difficult adjustment for
players coming to the Los Angeles Lakers. But Tex Winter, the guru of that
offense, says that post players have the easiest time adjusting. It stands
to reason. Post players don’t have to do all the passing and cutting and
reading that forwards and guards do in the triangle. Post players merely
have to get in position to get the ball in the right position, which is often
point-blank range.”Our offense is predicated on someone scoring inside, on
our getting the ball inside,” Winter explained in a phone interview. “It’s
a center-in, post-up offense.”
三角進攻長久以來就被認為對於加入湖人的球員來講是個艱難的調整.但三角進攻的導師
Tex Winter認為低位的球員最容易融入這個體系中. 這是有原因的.首先,低位的球員不需
要做前鋒和後衛的傳導和切入的工作. 第二, 低位球員只需要站在正確的位置拿到球即可,
那個位置通常是point-blank range. Winter在電話訪談中表示,"我們的進攻取決於有人可
以在內線拿到分數, 取決於我們是否能把球送到內線去. 這是一種center-in, post-up
offense."
That’s why Kwame Brown, for all of his defensive quickness, wasn’t much
help. That’s why Winter didn’t like the idea of getting a Ben Wallace from
Chicago to bolster the Lakers frontcourt. Neither offered someone for guard
Kobe Bryant to play off of.
這就是為什麼Kwame Brown即便擁有迅速的防守能力,仍舊無法提供更多幫助. 這也是為什
麼Winter不希望從公牛交易Ben Wallace來強化前場. 因為這無法提供Kobe和他並肩作戰
的機會.
It’s easy, then, to understand why Winter’s elated at the trade for
center/forward Pau Gasol from the Memphis Grizzlies. “Gasol’s a real
player, particularly offensively,” Winter confirmed. “He knows how to
score. He’s got great hands, and he’ll fit in nicely too. We can get him
the ball in position where he has the opportunity.” With the development of
center Andrew Bynum before his recent knee injury, Kobe Bryant reminded
Lakers fans that he knows well how to play off a big man who can catch and
score.
從這邊就可以很容易的了解, 為何Winter會對Gasol這宗交易感到雀躍. Winter非常肯定
的說:"Gasol是一個出眾的球員,特別在進攻上. "他知道如何取分. 他有良好的手感, 而且
他一定相當適合生存在這個體系下. 我們可以在他有機會的時候,直接就把球送到他手裡去
." 在Bynum受傷前的成長狀況, Kobe提醒了湖人迷們, 他知道如何和一個會catch and
score的大個打球.
“Kobe’s always looking for somebody who can score the basket,” Winter
said. “I hope Kobe learns how to use Gasol the right way. I think he will. He
’s really shown how well he can do that.” Winter, who recently spent five
weeks with the Lakers despite battling a painful case of the shingles, said
he has visited with Bryant often in recent weeks and has really been pleased
with his growth in leadership. It is definitely one phase of Bryant’s game
that is not Like Mike.
Winter說到:"Kobe永遠都在尋找可以攻擊籃框的隊友. 我希望Kobe可以用正確的方式和
Gasol並肩作戰,我也認為他可以. 他已經向世人證明他能夠打到什麼程度." Winter已經隨
著湖人作戰了五個星期, 即使他帶著疼痛的帶狀皰疹. 他說, 他最近幾週常常去拜訪Kobe,
而且對他領導力上的成長感到相當佩服. 這將非常確定, Kobe的領導方式是跟Jordan非常
不同的.
“Something I see Kobe doing is really energizing those young guys,” Winter
said. “Kobe likes working with them and being positive, instead of being
critical.”
Winter說:"我從Kobe身上看到的是,他總是在激勵這些年輕小將們. Kobe現在似乎和這群
人一起奮鬥, 而且用正面的態度取代他的嚴苛."
Winter coached Jordan in Chicago and observed his very powerful leadership
style. “Michael was very critical, which is OK sometimes when team members
have the confidence to accept it. Some people couldn’t handle that from
Michael. We ended up with only the people who could take it. Kobe has taken a
different approach in his leadership. That’s good. Because guys like Lamar
Odom and Luke Walton are already so low in their confidence, you’ve got to
build them up. And I think Kobe has tried to do that.”
Winter在Chicago時曾經教導過Jordan,而且認為他是一個相當強勢的領導風格.
"Michael非常嚴厲, 如果他的隊友有足夠的信心接受這種風格的話, it's OK. 但有些人
卻無法在這種風格下生存. 所以我們最後只留下可以接受這樣方式的人下來. 但Kobe走向
了另一種非常不同的領導策略. 這很棒. 因為如Lamar Odom和Luke Walton這種信心很低
的球員, 你要做的是建立他們的信心. 而且我認為Kobe也試著去這麼做."
Bryant seems to have save his harshest criticism for himself, particularly
after his recent 11 turnover game, Winter said. In case people get the idea
that Winter has softened as he nears his 86th birthday, think again. He has
fussed all season that the Lakers need to change the way they play the screen
and roll, especially how they choose to bring help from the wings, where
opponents have their three-point shooters waiting. He says the Lakers too
readily leave shooters open, and he favors getting the help on penetrating
guards from the big man in the post.
Winter說, Kobe似乎將最嚴苛的標準留給了自己, 特別是在他最近那場11失誤的比賽之後.
如果人們認為近86歲的Winter近來變得比較慈祥的話,那你給要再想想. 他嚴正指出湖人必
須要改變她們screen and roll的打法, 特別是在他們如何從兩翼獲得足夠的幫忙, 因為在
那邊, 對方的三分射手常常就等在那. 他說湖人太容易讓一些射手露出空檔, 所以他希望
藉由禁區大個防止後衛的滲透來獲得幫助.
That would mean the Lakers would have to help the helper, the common
basketball phrase, but that would force the extra pass from the offense. He
was fussing in particular about Odom helping and leaving his man open late in
the loss to Detroit. ”I’ve made a lot of suggestions,” Winter grumbled. “
I don’t know if I’m being listened to. There are a lot of coaches on that
staff, a lot of voices. I don’t know who has Phil’s ear.”
這也代表湖人必須去補防, 這也是一般的籃球教條, 但這也會在進攻上造成更多的壓力.
他特別嚴厲指出Odom在輸給底特律比賽中的幫忙防守, 以及他露給他防守者太大的
空檔. Winter發牢騷說,"我已經給了很多建議了, 但我不知道我講的是不是有被聽進去.
裡面有一堆教練還有一堆聲音, 但我不曉得誰有把Phil講的聽進去."
Winter’s basic suggestion is that the team focus harder on fundamentals so
that players “basically execute their skills better. Passing, cutting,
screening, ballhandling, we don’t do those things well. We’re haphazard
about them in our execution.” Meanwhile, the longtime coach says he stays
out of team personnel issues other than to point out that Lakers GM Mitch
Kupchak has done a remarkable job of building the team through draft picks
and personnel moves.
Winter基本的建議就是這支球隊必須要更努力在基本的東西上, "球員要讓他們自己的技
巧變得更好. 傳導, 切入, 換防, 掌握球的能力, 這些我們在清楚也不過. 但我們卻實行
的雜亂無章." 同時, 這位老前輩說, 他不想去管人事的東西, 但他仍想指出湖人GM Mitch
在選秀的選人還有人事的調動上都做得非常棒.
Winter does fear that Odom may be the next on the trading block if he doesn’
t begin to play up to his vast potential on a consistent basis. “Odom, I don
’t know what’s wrong with him,” Winter said. “He can’t seem to find his
way. He’s been with us a long time. He’s been awfully good at times. It’s
really hard to figure out why he hasn’t played better this season.”
Winter也擔心, 如果Odom沒有帶著他的潛力表現出穩定貢獻的話, 那他將非常可能是下一
個交易的對象. Winter說,"Odom, 我不知道他出了什麼問題, 他似乎找不到自己的定位.
他在我們這邊很久了, 但他卻只能偶爾才能表現的很好. 這也很難解釋, 為何他本季沒有
辦法打得更好."
In some ways, Odom may benefit most from Gasol’s presence. With less of a
scoring burden on him, Odom may be able to focus better on rebounding and
pushing the ball on the break. That stands to reason, although Winter wouldn’
t confirm such a notion, saying instead that Jackson will have to wait and
see how the team grows with the move. Winter did guess that Jackson would
miss Brown. “Phil sort of liked the challenge of seeing what he could do to
help Kwame be effective,” Winter observed, adding that God had played a
cruel trick on Brown, giving him an impressive body but withholding key
elements that would make the former number 1 overall pick an NBA star.
某種角度來說, Odom可能會受惠於Gasol的表現. 少了得分上的負擔, Odom或許可以更專注
於抓籃板球以及快攻帶球往前推進. 理所當然的, 雖然Winter不確定這樣的見解, 但他卻不
同於Phil希望等待,然後看看Gasol到來之後的影響才知道怎麼做. Winter也猜測, Phil
可能會想念Brown. 他說, "Phil有點希望挑戰看看他如何能讓Brown表現得更有效率." 他
也說上帝在Brown身上開了個大玩笑, 上帝給了他卓越的身體素質, 但卻沒有給他身為NBA
選秀狀元的關鍵能力.
With the Lakers needing scoring in the post so badly, Kupchak had long been
looking for a quality big man to help the team. There was once hope that big
man would be Kevin Garnett, who went to Boston instead. But with Gasol, the
Lakers have scored nicely, Winter said.
而湖人在低位上取分是如此的迫切, Mitch方面也早已開始尋找優質長人來幫助球隊. 曾經
他們有過希望這個幫助是來自於Kevin Garnett, 但他最後去了Boston. 但Winter說,擁有
Gasol, 或許湖人得分上會更好.
To get Gasol, Los Angeles traded promising rookie Javaris Crittenton to
Memphis, plus two first round draft picks and the rights to Gasol’s brother,
Marc Gasol. “Crittenton’s gonna be pretty good. He’s a player,” Winter
said. “But he won’t be ready for another year.”
為了要取得Gasol, 湖人交易出潛力尋人Javaris Crittenton到灰熊, 並附贈兩個第一輪的
選秀權, 以及和Marc Gasol的簽約權. Winter表示,"Crittenton未來將會很棒, 他是一個
好球員. 但他不會在明年就真的長大."
The Lakers, meanwhile, have shown they’re much about right now.
此時此刻, 湖人已經表現出他們的大展身手的深度了.
Roland Lazenby is the author of “The Show, The Inside Story Of The
Spectacular Los Angeles Lakers In The Words Of Those Who Lived It”
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