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[a111156987 (燈泡)]

看Balague關於******的消息，Paul Dalglish一時興起談了一些
他對轉會跟薪水的看法

(ID黃色的是鄉民們)

@pauldalglish
A positive of my old man getting his P45 is that I can now comment on current
football affairs without having to be careful what I say!
我爸被炒的好處之一就是我現在又可以嘴砲足球了!

One of the biggest overlooked factors in football by supporters is players
wage demands. Some clubs can afford transfer fees but not wages!
足球世界裡球迷最容易低估的事情之一就是薪水，有些球會負擔得起轉會費
，但負擔不起薪水!

For instance 2 players cost 20m but 1 is on 80k a week and 1 is on 250k on 5
years deals. Difference on total deal is 44.2m!
譬如說，有兩個選手分別都是以2000萬轉會費簽下，但一個8萬週薪，一個25萬週薪，
五年約下來相差達44.2M!

Also the media interpretation of money spent. You release a player on a free
who is on 80k a week for the next 3 years. Money saved 12.48m.
媒體對支出的解讀也有一樣的盲點，你讓一個還有三年約，週薪8萬的球員自由離隊
，意謂著你省下了1248萬。

@THEREDSCOT
@pauldalglish you talking LFC players?
鄉民: 你在說利物浦的選手嗎?

@pauldalglish
No I am just talking generally @THEREDSCOT
不，我是在講一般的情形。

Also money received back on sales. People who talk money spent, not net
spend, must not sell their house b4 they buy another.
賣人的收入也應該被計算進去。那些只看支出不看淨支出的人，八成都是
先買新房子之後才賣掉舊房子吧。

@carrie3006
@pauldalglish hence rafa didn't spend as much as people thought!
鄉民:所以說Rafa花得沒大家想像中的多嘛!

@pauldalglish
Agreed. It all depends how the media want to portray the story.
同意，一切都只是因為媒體想要寫故事而已。

@topscat
@pauldalglish : ￡13.3m net spend dispels this great fallacy over Rafa
Benitez. This is what the man actually spent over six seasons.
鄉民: Rafa時代的淨支出是1330萬，這才是他六年間真正的花費。

@pauldalglish
I have no idea what his net spend was as I have no idea what he spent on
wages. You can't separate the 2. @topscat
我不知道他的淨支出是多少，因為我不知道他到底付了多少薪水，這兩
件事要放在一起看。

For instance, Rafa had to sell players he probably didn't want to, to
generate the money to give Gerrard, Torres etc new deals.
譬如說，Rafa得賣掉幾個他可能其實不想賣的選手來籌措包子、******
等人簽新合約的經費。

@iandickens
KD spent 114m. Made back 76m. Considering high-eanrers (Babel/Torres etc),
its quite possible he broke even. Correct?
鄉民:國王支出1億1400萬，收入7600萬，再考慮到他清掉一些高薪球員(八寶/******等)
，所以他其實可能是收支平衡的?

@pauldalglish
Possibly but I have no idea about exact fee's or wages but I would like to
try & keep this a general discussion not an LFC one
可能吧，但我不知道確切的轉會費或薪水。我比較想談普遍的情況，而不是
針對利物浦而言。


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推 armyguy:他講得有道理呀,只是想表達甚麼???還是只是純嘴砲???
→ a111156987:就嘴砲啦
→ a111156987:看完我第一個想到的是Maxi的9萬週薪....
推 arexne:就閒聊打屁啦
→ IOP14759:話說，若真的要把薪水跟奪冠/保級獎金算進去，再把收益
→ IOP14759:也算進去，那就不用當記者和球迷了...
→ IOP14759:那就跟球會會計沒兩樣了
→ IOP14759:所以我們球迷只要知道個大概就差不多了
→ a111156987:他這篇是單就球員交易的收支來講  倒也沒牽扯很多
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→ mcowen:JC的薪水105K/W 但是我們外界後還要給他70K/W
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→ a111156987:好貨  結果壞掉了Orz
→ a111156987:而且他簽了四年，賣不出去的話還是要硬著頭皮付錢
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