Re: [閒聊] LFC戰術討論

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接下來是另外一篇說明Rodgers的壓迫逼搶的戰術概念。

原文出處: http://goo.gl/J4Q2C
Liverpool FC: Brendan Rodgers Tactics – How The Pressing Game Works

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摘錄文章部分內容:

Rodgers教練生涯發展 -
1991 - 於Reading時開始考教練執照，最終當上青年隊的主帥
2004 - Mourinho邀請他擔任Chelsea的青年隊主帥
2008 - 離開Chelsea到Watford擔任主帥，季末位列英冠13th
2009 - 從Warford離開，回到Reading擔任主帥。6個月後因為球隊表現不佳被辭退
2010 - 成為Swansea主帥，並且帶領球隊在當年通過附加賽衝上英超
2011/12 - 帶領Swansea打出英超第一年位列11th的成績
2012 - 成為LFC主帥


壓迫逼搶的戰術概念來源 -

作者認為可以用下列的圖表來展現師承關係

           Pep Guardiola
        ／
Van Gaal                    Villas-Boas
        ＼               ／
           Jose Mourinho
                         ＼
                            Rodgers

簡單說AVB和Rodgers都曾經在Mourinho底下學習過。


Some of the (lazy) comments I currently read on social media and
in newspapers in relation to Swansea’s passing game are:
‘they pass for passing sake”,
“they only pass backwards,
and sideways” etc.

Like there is no plan behind it.

But that is doing Rodgers style of football a great injustice and
is demeaning to the man’s footballing intelligence.

社群網路上有某些人評論Swansea的控球打法，
"為了控球而控球" 或是 "僅是在後場倒球回傳"
作者認為這其實這是有失公平的，
他認為Rodgers這樣的戰術安排有其背後的戰術思維。


Mostly, in Rodgers case, the reasons for passing backwards and
sideways are purely tactical. Sometimes you need to
recycle the ball for long periods in order to recover.
Other times,
it’s to create angles for passes, and to dominate the opposition.

更進一步說，Rodgers是刻意安排這樣的控球戰術進行。
有時你必須要將球往後傳以重新組織，並且創造出傳球的空間，進而控制比賽。


“When going forward, the best way to move the ball up
the field is to create angles of diagonal pass.

If you have two banks of four across defence and
midfield there are no diagonal passes on.

The system needs to be more fluid.” Brendan Rodgers

Rodgers認為當己方持球進攻時，應該要創造出對角(或是指三角?)的傳球角度，
如果對方已退至中場/後場堆積防守，就無法輕易找出有利的傳球空間角度。
因此上場進攻時，球的傳導應該要更加流動以找出機會。


It is also used as a form of defence.

Of course, if you have possession of the ball,
then, simplistically the opposition cannot score.

Furthermore, the belief is,
if you have possession of the football,
then the opposition are expending more energy trying
to hunt you down and retrieve it.


高持球率的戰術概念也可以是一種防守思維。
如果己方持球率高，簡單來說，對方也無法進攻得分。
同時對方為了要把球權搶回來，需要花費更大的體力。


What Rodgers says about pressure:

“The only time we rest is when we have the ball.

When we haven’t got the ball is the moment for
intense pressure to get the ball back.

But you can’t go for 90 minutes,
so in order to recuperate and conserve energy,
we’ll do that sometimes by building our way through the game.”

Rodgers認為當己方持球時，才是己方球隊唯一能夠喘息的時候。
失去球權時，則是要開始向對方球員施壓把球權搶回。
當然，你無法維持90分鐘的瘋狂逼搶，
為了能夠有效維持場上球員的表現和保存體力，
球隊必須判斷何時進行逼搶以確保比賽能夠朝希望的方式進行。


The Six Second Rule -
This is based on the principle that when a player regains or
receives possession he as at that moment,
or for a few seconds, is vulnerable to being dispossessed.

But, and this is crucial,
if you cannot win the ball back within those 5 or 6 seconds
then you must recognize as a team
that you can’t run around pressing the ball for 90 minutes.

It’s just not physically possible. So you retreat,
regain your defensive shape, and wait for the ‘signs’
to start pressing again.

6秒逼搶原則 -
適用於球員正打算搶回獲得球權或是發生己方剛掉球的時刻。

但若球員無法在5-6秒內經過拼搶取回球權，
那麼球員們需要有做為整體球隊一份子的意識，
此時應該要重新組織而非一昧的進行個別的90分鐘瘋狂拼搶。

場上球員後撤並重新組織防守陣型，並且等到下一次開始進行逼搶的時機。


“You cannot go (press) on your own,” he says.

“You work on zonal pressure,
so that when it is in your zone,
you have the capacity to press.

That ability to press immediately,
within five or six seconds to get the ball,
is important.

But you also have to understand when you can’t and
what the triggers are then to go for it again because
you can’t run about like a madman.” Brendan Rodgers

Rodgers認為拼搶式的足球是無法僅由一個人完成的，
而是透過區域壓迫，每個人都要在負責的區域各司其職，
並且目標在發動拼搶的5-6秒內取得球權。

同時球員們也應該具備判斷何時該放棄和何時該進行拼搶的能力？
球員無法一直像瘋子般的追著球跑。


The ‘Triggers’ For Pressing

Why can a player be vulnerable to losing possession immediately
after he receives the ball?

Well his overview of the entire pitch becomes limited due to
him having to make a tackle,
interception or other to win the ball back.

If he receives the ball from a stray pass then he may also need to
look down at the ball to control it,
and again lose his overview of the pitch.

This is one of the precise moments when you should apply your pressing game.

發動拼搶的時機 -

球員在需要應付對方球員的鏟球和攔截時，會失去對球場上的視野。

當對方球員在接應一個低品質的傳球時，
(stray pass 應該是指未依照球員所想的路線和方向前進的傳球)
他會因此而需要把視線額外的放在球上以控制好足球，
此時同樣地失去了對場上的視野。

這會是其中一個需要開始進行拼搶的時機。


A further trigger to start pressing;
if the opposition player with the ball needs to
turn back towards his own goal.

His options become very limited,
he can’t pass forward to a teammate,
and his vision of the field ahead of him becomes obscured,
so it’s at that moment you apply intense zonal pressure
on the vulnerable player.

另一個可進行逼搶的時機則是當對方持球球員需要轉身向著對方球門時。

此時對方球員能夠做的選擇非常有限，
他無法往前傳給隊友；同時他對於轉身後其背後的視野非常有限。

這時應該要對該名對方球員，開始進行區域拼搶。

(原文中，這裡附上了一個例子和圖型，稍微解釋了如何透過區域站位拼搶，
 來重新獲得球權。
 綠色3號持球球員因為受到對手的高位拼搶，使得他只剩下:
 1.往守門員方向傳 (但很危險)
 2.往前場方向傳 (但很有可能失去球權)
)


As an aside,
consider why the great passing players are in fact great;
(Alonso, Xavi, Pirlo),
if you watch them closely,
control of the ball is secondary.

They barely look down to see where the ball is,
enabling them to have a constant view of what’s going on around them.

Vision of your team-mates positions around you is a critical attribute to
have in your locker in the modern game.

作者認為如Alonso, Xavi, Pirlo這類優秀的傳球大師之所以偉大，
很大部份的原因是因為，大部份的時間他們並不需要盯著腳上的足球，
而是隨時注意場上所有己方和對方的球員位置，保持對全場的視野。
控球能力則是其次。

在現代足球當中，保持對於周圍隊友位置視野，
是一項很重要的能力。


Team Shape -

Not only is the player who receives the ball vulnerable,
but also the entire team.

It is the transition phase of the ball:
the opposition’s defensive shape has not been set.

Thus they are,
for maybe 5 or 6 seconds susceptible to intense zonal pressure
from the opposition.

There is also another factor to consider.

This high pressing allows you to win the ball back closer
to the opposition goal.

隊形 -

透過高壓拼搶不僅是造成對方失去球權，還可能影響對方陣型完整。

由於此時拼搶時機正處於球權過渡階段，對手的防守隊員們尚未有時間重組隊型。
因此在這5-6秒透過密集的區域高壓拼搶，可能造成對方防守陣型的潰散。

同時還有另外一個好處，這樣的高位拼搶可以讓你在更靠近對方球門的位置贏得球權。

(這裡作者用同一張圖解釋了高位拼搶後，贏得球權的紅色6號有許多進攻的選擇，
 或是選擇往回傳，重新進行組織進攻。而這些都需要在短時間內判斷完成)


Of course, knowing when to press, in zones,
and as an entire team is not something that is normally second nature.

It must be taught on training ground.

It takes footballing intelligence and tactical discipline.

Your team and your players need to be in the right positions
the moment is upon you to press.

One player pressing the ball is futile,
it expends needless energy and almost never works.

了解何時在區域內以團隊協同合作方式進行壓迫，並非每個球員的天性。
這需要平時的訓練，以及球員們和教練的足球智慧和整體戰術紀律。

球員們必須要在適當的時間點進入適當的位置進行壓迫拼搶。
單一球員的壓迫通常是無用的，而且會消耗掉不必要浪費的體力。


And this may be an area
where Liverpool struggle in the early part of the season.

Knowing when to press and when not to press.

It will be fascinating to watch.

However, if Brendan Rodgers can get the Liverpool players to
understand this important tactical discipline,
then the fruits of that knowledge will start to grow and
we may start seeing a very exciting new era at Anfield.

而這也是LFC可能在下個賽季初期可能會遭遇的問題。

學習何時該進行壓迫拼搶？而何時又不應該？
這將會是下個賽季可以觀賞的重點之一。

然而，如果Rodgers能夠讓LFC的球員們了解他的戰術理念以及紀律的重要性，
那麼我們將可以看到一個非常不一樣且令人興奮的LFC！

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這篇可以視為上一篇的補充，
Tiki-Taka足球除了高控球率之外，區域範圍的就地反搶也是看點之一。
本文主要在說明High Press進行的時機以及好處。
但這的確需要整體球員對於教練戰術的了解以及團隊配合的默契。
只能說亨利選擇Rodgers就有打算長期重建的耐心，
希望我們會成功！YNWA！


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