推 jackhan :不想給吃牌所以槓起來 111.248.92.219 09/10 11:11
→ XXPLUS :萬一槓起來不幸自摸,不是虧更大XD 211.23.150.165 09/10 11:13
推 jackhan :這種事我超常做的....... 220.135.48.243 09/10 22:57
推 Hanniba :都可胡阿 有種不怕明槓自摸打掉 114.32.228.191 09/10 23:15
推 shihchinlun :就算是規則派,明槓完補花能自摸? 111.240.222.42 09/11 00:16
→ shihchinlun :如果有人大連莊要吃牌,尤其是中洞 111.240.222.42 09/11 00:17
→ shihchinlun :我聽牌了也會硬槓走 111.240.222.42 09/11 00:17
→ XXPLUS :不給吃槓起來,是犧牲小我,這點沒錯 211.23.150.165 09/11 13:55
→ XXPLUS :但是槓起來直接加槓然後自摸會被靠杯 211.23.150.165 09/11 13:56
→ XXPLUS :就看你怎麼要求囉~摸到請進手牌再槓 211.23.150.165 09/11 13:57
→ XXPLUS :動作做確實就不會有爭議 211.23.150.165 09/11 13:58
→ XXPLUS :明槓補到花然後開花自摸,是不允許的 211.23.150.165 09/11 13:58
→ XXPLUS :舉這例,只是讓規則派好理解 211.23.150.165 09/11 13:59
→ XXPLUS :解釋派不是有槓就叫過水,是要能解釋 211.23.150.165 09/11 14:00
推 shanglin0201:這種討論 根本跟過水無關 講到過水 125.230.146.92 10/06 23:23
→ shanglin0201:還真奇怪 125.230.146.92 10/06 23:24
→ shanglin0201:點在於 起於明槓(碰)之後的動作 125.230.146.92 10/06 23:24
→ shanglin0201:有人主張明槓碰 就是要捨牌 這樣就 125.230.146.92 10/06 23:25
→ shanglin0201:不能自摸 但是很多人玩這樣是可以 125.230.146.92 10/06 23:25
→ XXPLUS :整篇內文沒提到過水兩字啦 211.23.150.165 10/11 13:49
→ XXPLUS :嚴格來說過水這兩字已經模糊了 211.23.150.165 10/11 13:50
→ XXPLUS :在這篇文是"能胡"的意思 211.23.150.165 10/11 13:51
→ XXPLUS :和能胡故意不胡的"過水"的確無關 211.23.150.165 10/11 13:52