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※ [本文轉錄自 Cardinals 看板 #1DHLMIU3 ] 作者: stonemonkey (ネギ) 看板: Cardinals 標題: [報導] 為何小普會選擇離開?? 時間: Sun Jan 30 20:11:59 2011 News broke on Friday that Cardinals' slugger Albert Pujols will veto any trade proposal involving him. The upcoming free agent stated earlier this offseason that he will not negotiate during the season, meaning the Cardinals ink him to an extension before he reports to Spring Training, or he will become a free agent after the 2011 season. This announcement by itself isn't remarkably significant, but if you read between the lines, it's evident the Cardinals have substantial doubt that they can/will hold onto the three-time NL MVP. Here's my prevailing thought: if the Cards were confident that they will re-sign Pujols, there would not even be a hint of discussion about a trade. If they feel the chances of a extending Albert are strong, then the possibility of a trade would be a complete afterthought. After this bit of news, though, it's clear that it is not an afterthought. Until Pujols signs an extension or signs with another team, everything is speculation (we learned that from the NBA's free agent season last summer). Here's a break down of what we do know about Pujols and the reasons he might stay or leave. 如果紅鳥有把握re-sign,那麼不會討論到任何有關交易的問題,這只能作為一種無奈之下 的補救,但很顯然不會是這個原因 以下為留下的正面考慮因素: Pros 1. Continuity and familiarity (熟悉度) Pujols has never suited up for another team in his 10 prolific seasons in MLB. Regardless of how favorable or unfavorable the situation has become, staying in the place you're familiar with is always more comfortable than making a change. 待在紅鳥10年的小普已經是很熟悉這裡的環境,留在一個這樣的地方總是舒服的 2. St. Louis is arguably the best baseball city in America (聖路易是美國最好的棒球城市) The Gateway to the West has long been among the best baseball cities. The tradition, the culture, the fan base. Since 2000, the Cardinals are second only to the Yankees in total home attendance, and boasts one of the most loyal and knowledgeably fan bases in baseball. Pujols' upright character mixed with the fans' adoration of him as their own creates a marriage that would not be easy to dissolve. 這個城市的傳統,文化及球迷基礎自從2000年以來就只僅次於洋基 身處在這裡的情感是很不容易消失的 3. Success (成就) In Pujols' career, the Cards have won the third-most games in baseball, taken seven NL Central titles, won two NL pennants and one World Series in 2006. Pujols could leave, but there are a select few teams who could contend better than St. Louis for a World Series. 在小普於紅鳥的職業生涯中一共稱霸國中7次,2次國聯冠軍及1次的WS冠軍,離開的話要找到 能超越紅鳥進WS次數的球隊不多 4. Legacy Here's a list: Rogers Hornsby, Stan Musial, Bob Gibson, Curt Flood, Lou Brock, and Ozzie Smith. If Pujols plays his entire career (or most of it) for St. Louis, he has a great chance of being remembered as the best Cardinal ever. That is no small feat considering the names in the preceding list. 如果一直留在聖路易(或者是絕大多數時間)的話,他將會成為隊史最好的球員 Pujols could retire a career Cardinal as the all-time leader in every major hitting category, which will not be possible if he leaves now. There's a lot at stake for Albert Pujols' legacy as a St. Louis Cardinal. Cons (缺點) 1. Payroll flexibility (薪資彈性) The number that Pujols is expected to command is $25 million a year for at least six years. Some estimates have it as high as $30 million per year. If the Cardinals add that to their current payroll, their flexibility and ability to improve in other places will plummet. Already 13th in payroll, the St. Louis would certainly rocket into the top seven or higher. Pujols and his representatives will be aware of this. Their roster hasn't been good enough to win a championship the last few years, so how could the team improve if Pujols earns double his current salary of $13.8 million? Pujols could earn his money just the same with another team that is able to surround him with other players. 預估的新合約將是至少25M/y 6年以上..某些人預測為30M/y 如此一來既要滿足小普要 的有奪冠實力又要滿足薪水是不太可能的 2. Hometown discount? (家鄉的折扣) Given the strong relationship and mutual loyalty between Pujols and the Cardinals, the organization might assume or even ask for a hometown discount. Now, Pujols is not a selfish or greedy player by any means, and has been severely underpaid his entire career. Will he continue to be alright with that after 11 seasons of 30+ HR and 100+ RBI in his first ever free agent offseason? Only time will tell. 基於彼此的關係,紅鳥很可能再度要求小普給予折扣優惠...而小普並不是一位自私貪婪 的球員,先前的日子裡已經給過的折扣所得到的已經過少了,時間可以證明,他將會以連11 季30HR 100RBI的成績進到FA市埸 If you're Pujols, there are more positives to staying in St. Louis than negatives, which doesn't matter all that much. The only thing that matters is what Pujols thinks his options are. Maybe, for the first time in his career, he wants to be pursued and catered to. Maybe he wants to sit back and watch the offers roll in and the contract numbers pile up. Only Albert has those answers. 總之只有小普才知道他真正要的東西 The news about Pujols voiding any trade is not earth-shaking, but it does reveal something about how negotiations are going and what each side is thinking in late January, just a few weeks before Pujols' contract ultimatum. He very well could stay, but I think this news means he's leaning towards leaving. Now that would be earth-shaking news. 最近種種消息,作者認為他已經想離去了 略翻了一下,有錯的話請指正,我再改改thx 原文:http://bit.ly/hAqgVh -- 看來幾乎可以宣告後小普時代要來了.. ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 118.171.251.78 ※ 編輯: stonemonkey 來自: 118.171.251.78 (01/30 20:13) -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 118.171.251.78
devilsky:真正要的東西 錢啊 01/30 20:18
ygjhsu:洋基:$$準備好了 01/30 20:18
jimmyyyyyy:鐵爺轉外野中 Now Loading... 01/30 20:20
dan2312:都說僅次於NYY了 那麼NYY:子彈都準備好了 還不去嘛 01/30 20:28
g787b:洋基因應說什麼都要全力買他下來吧~~~一定非常直得的~~ 01/30 20:28
lukeskywork:我記得聖路易是美國治安最差的大城…看不出來哪裡好 01/30 20:30
g787b:不然洋基會後悔一輩子的~~~說什麼都要給他買下來~~ 01/30 20:30
cloudyst:看來 鐵爺今年有空練練3壘吧! 01/30 20:31
g787b:我都等不級了~~真想看到他跟A肉組成現代最強的3~4棒了~~ 01/30 20:34
TBDTBD:普侯獅薪水這幾年這麼便宜 已經算紅雀賺到了 還想要折扣... 01/30 20:39
externaload:真的沒錢可以延後付款阿 何必弄得這麼難看 01/30 20:47
searoar:in $man we trust!!! 01/30 20:49
searoar:說難看 吉特笑了o,o 01/30 20:50
langeo:情義值千金 可惜這是關係到千萬金 情義什麼的都是空話 01/30 20:59
FatalLuna:不離不棄 01/30 21:00
andy80209:國聯球隊:現在增加DH可以嗎? 01/30 21:12
koil:請問養雞棒次要怎麼排 普神-阿肉-鐵爺 ? 01/30 21:36
Mooooose:ATP打線要發威了嗎? 把普神夾在中間比較好 01/30 21:39
jet113102:普神這幾年已經貢獻太多了, 真的沒必要說什麼折扣之類的 01/30 21:42
cloudfour:明年才FA~請不要這麼快高潮好嗎= = 01/30 21:43
FatalLuna:有人要掰了 呵 01/30 21:46
koil:普神都打第三棒 而且上壘率高 所以應該是P-A-T 01/30 21:48
iso903306:LBJ效應 01/30 21:54
decorum:聖路易棒球那麼受重視 很大的原因是 在哪裡找不到其他樂子 01/30 22:14
thuplayer:是有份報告說聖路易治安最差,但其計算方式也被批評 01/30 22:22
dale7969:該拿的都拿過了 剩錢吧XDDD 01/30 22:25
asd25:這不是LEE了 差5M以內的薪水XD~ 01/30 22:46
cc1012:除非他想要創造歷久不衰的隊史紀錄~不然應該是走定了 01/30 22:50
j07242054:pat 拍拍打線 哈哈 01/30 22:57
wangfan3:鐵爺轉捕手好了.... 01/30 23:05
rex9999:Albert Pujols才不會離開… St. Louis會暴動的 01/30 23:24
wangfan3:棒球版推文中肯:普神這種態度在中職早就高掛球鞋了 01/30 23:32
tumy:我要養家呀 $_$ 01/30 23:40
a129517496:老實說我覺得最後普神還是會留紅雀.. 01/31 00:08
Redchain:如果要 300M/10Y 洋基表示:都給一張了 那就再給一張吧 01/31 00:13
chigo520:暴動 克里夫蘭都暴動過了沒差 01/31 00:26
JackSmith:紅襪:Adrian Gonzalez..不好意思,我們想要Pujols (大誤 01/31 00:29
frank123ya:好吧 去費城 有四張A了 剛好可以湊五隻煙 01/31 00:49
SoSo5566: 又被說去費城 01/31 01:23
chien533:拜託再待一年,因為我就快要去聖路易工作了,想去看他> < 01/31 01:42
Pujols5:如果樓上是今年要去那是不太需要擔心 01/31 01:49
qlz:本人說話了,樓上上不用擔心啦 01/31 02:15
askingts:聖路易治安超差的 算什麼好城市XDD 01/31 09:04
zippy:有什麼好噓的! 聖路易暴動會怎樣??? 01/31 09:13
tirple:樓上新警察 01/31 11:37
unmeinohito:聖路易雖然又破又常被講無聊 但我覺得棒透了 哪裡不好 01/31 11:50
Yeves:聖路易的確治安不好,但棒球絕對是聖路易最重要的運動項目 01/31 13:22
Yeves:我猜應該會用不算太差的薪資加激勵獎金讓他留下 01/31 13:23
Yeves:要是沒留下他,絕對暴動!你無法想像他對聖路易市民有多重要 01/31 13:23
Yeves:各項慈善活動看板、路上招牌都看的到他! 01/31 13:24
OoyaoO:激勵也只能設在破xx紀錄的條件下吧 01/31 14:29
JBKsucks:LAA? 01/31 15:49
chaoliang:普吼師拿過ws戒指???? 01/31 16:02
fenglingling:2006年阿 01/31 16:12
chopinlee:聖路易治安哪裡差了,我在那裏好幾年一點都沒不覺得 01/31 23:56
chopinlee:媒體講的話聽聽就好 01/31 23:57
chopinlee:而聖路易確實沒甚麼樂子,不過全美除了幾個大城市之外 01/31 23:58
chopinlee:其他80%城市都跟聖路易一樣無聊 01/31 23:58
prereality:激勵獎金不是會讓球員感覺很不好嗎= =? 02/01 11:50
f80242:推文中一些人又在自嗨 今年的Lee不就落空了 02/01 17:20
kenro:自嗨+1 以為洋基什麼都能吃的到 什麼都想要 幾乎無所不能 02/02 10:11
kenro:不過真要普神 那鐵爺只有交易一途 不然看紅鳥要不要換好了. 02/02 10:12