作者searoar (翹你的小鋼盔)
站內MLB
標題Re: [問題] 近10年有沒有投打俱佳的球員?
時間Mon Apr 25 15:39:44 2011
www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/2010-pitcher-hitting-winners-and-losers/
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In last season,
Yovani Gallardo and
Dan Haren tied for the lead with
a positive contribution of a half-win apiece. Neither Gallardo nor Haren
had success at the plate in the past and with Haren now with the American
League Angels, he can effectively go out on top aside from the brief
forays in interleague play.
Pitchers flailing at the plate are far more usual and the worst offenders
demonstrate that as
Clayton Kershaw and
Ubaldo Jimenez tied at -1.3 WAR
with the bat. Unlike the leaders, who we are probably safe off assuming
were flukes, these two deserve a reputation for lousy hitting. Kershaw
has a career .207 OPS and .098 wOBA while Jimenez is marginally better
at a .283 OPS and .138 wOBA.
The Dodger pitchers were the league’s worst
hitting group, combining for almost five wins below replacement as a unit.
The terribleness of Jimenez and Kershaw illustrates how repeatedly being
useless at the plate can add up over the years for pitchers. From 1990 to
2010,
Greg Maddux was worth -14.1 WAR with his bat. Of course, he pitched
for a very long time so a big part of that is the sheer number of plate
appearances –1,562– that he had. However, over a nearly similar amount
of trips,
Tom Glavine was only at -8.5 WAR, a 5.5 win advantage for Glavine.
That’s not a lot since both pitched for 20+ season, but it is still about
a quarter win gap per season between the two and the spreads can be much
larger.
Mike Hampton and
Curt Schilling were about 10 wins apart in their
hitting over a similar number of chances. That is not a trivial amount.
YG和DH棒棒
CK和UJ慘慘
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→ sealin:那大Z呢XDD 04/25 15:49
推 WLR:投(球)打(人)俱佳 04/25 15:56
推 f0857785: 飲料機 04/25 15:58
→ wesyrb:2F不專業..明明就是飲料桶被打的頻率比較高... 04/25 16:23
推 futurelover:開特力表示: 04/25 16:39
推 yuliwang: 不要~不要過來 04/25 16:40
推 iloveconic: 不~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 04/25 16:43
推 sarserror:Gallardo打擊真的比一堆二游的強了吧 如果不考慮受傷問 04/25 18:04
→ sarserror:題 代打也是很威 04/25 18:06
推 sarserror:想到一個問題 如果在美聯 可以讓游擊打DH 投手打擊嗎? 04/25 18:10
推 th11211:不行吧 DH就是不用守備... 但可以排沒上場的投手打DH~ 04/25 18:12
推 KusoPvt:大Z投球明明一直都很強阿XD 04/25 18:55
推 WLR:可以取消DH,讓投手排進打線,光芒教練幹過,而且還贏球 04/25 19:48
推 j07242054:讓游擊打dh是什麼 04/25 20:13
推 Salvere:光芒那場投手還打第三棒 04/25 20:21
推 j33669:二樓的是放肆火吧 04/25 21:10
推 immortalqq:光芒那場投手是A.Sonnanstine XD 應該只有西瓜做得出 04/25 22:02
推 sjvious:西瓜半仙 04/25 23:37
推 garrygt4:那一場記得不是因為他填錯先發名單才變成那樣? 04/26 00:12
推 kigohcy:2F說砸人(派)王嗎? 04/26 00:37