Re: [閒聊] 日本人又來了... 中島 裕之

[Jason11982 (STL_AngryBirds)]

※ 引述《SeungYeon (我愛勝妍)》之銘言：
: 找到去年Patrick Newman在fangraphs上提到他是日職第二打者的這篇文章
: 貼上來大家可以在看看 原來還有寫到陳偉殷..
: Norichika Aoki (OF, Yakult Swallows, 28) – In a post-Ichiro, post-Matsui
: NPB, Aoki reigns as the consensus top hitter. I’d actually go so far as to
: say that he”s the best pure hitter Japan has produced since Ichiro. Aoki is
: a line drive hitter with occasional power who uses the whole field. He’s
: also a disciplined batter, walking about as often as he strikes out, which is
: rare in Japan. Aoki is short and somewhat stocky at 5’7.5, 182 lbs, but is a
: good runner with tremendous range in the outfield. The only knock on his game
: is his rather weak throwing arm, which may limit him to left field at the MLB
: level. For video, I dug up some batting and fielding highlights and a
: breakdown of his swing on YouTube.
Norichika Aoki (OF, Yakult Swallows, 28) ─ 青木宣親
在Ichiro、Matsui(不知道是指大松井還是小松井)之後，青木被認為是具有宰制力的頂尖
打者。事實上到目前為止我會說他是自Ichiro以來，最好的純打者。青木是平飛型安打打
者，加上偶一為之的長打有能力將球打到球場的任何一個地方。他也是揮棒紀律良好的打
者(discipline batter)，保送幾乎和三振一樣多，這在日本是很少見的。青木有點矮胖
而結實，5' 7.5"" 、182 lbs，但是擁有一雙快腿在外野的守備範圍非常驚人。唯一能
挑剔的就是他相對較弱的臂力，可能會使他只能在MLB站左外野。從Youtube影片中
來看，我發掘出一些打擊和守備的highlight還有揮棒的分析。


: Hiroyuki Nakajima (SS, Seibu Lions, 28) – Nakajima gets my vote as Japan’s
: second best hitter, behind Aoki. Nakajima doesn’t quite match up with Aoki’
: s pure contact skill or plate discipline, but is still very good in both
: categories and adds a bit more gap power to the equation. Nakajima is a
: back-leg hitter, with a big stride that he will occasionally shorten up. On
: the turf, Nakajima plays a solid shortstop, among many good shortstops in his
: league. The best video I could find of Nakajima was this one, of him hitting
: an opposite field home run off Dicky Gonzales (I know, not the best
: competition). Also of note in the video, you can see that he’s made friends
: with teammate Dee Brown. The high-five routine they do after home runs shows
: up on Japanese highlight shows.
Hiroyuki Nakajima (SS, Seibu Lions, 28) ─ 中島裕之
如果要選日本第二的打者，我會投中島一票；僅次於青木。中島在純擊球技術(pure
contact skill)和揮棒紀律沒辦法比得上青木，但在這兩方面仍然相當不錯；還多了一點
長打力。中島是一個back-leg打者(這個不知道是什麼)，打擊會有大跨步但有時會把跨
步縮小。在草地(守備)上，中島身處的聯盟裡有很多不錯的游擊手，不過他仍是箇中好
手。我曾經看過中島最棒的影片是這樣，對Dicky Gonzales打出了一支反方向的全壘打
(原作者按：我知道，這不是強度最高的一次對抗)。影片中還顯示，他和Dee Brown交朋
友。全壘打之後的high-five routine出現在日本的highlight裡。
back-leg查了一下，好像是指擊球時重心放在後腳

: Wei-Yin Chen (LHP, Chunichi Dragons, 25) – Last offseason, Chen was probably
: the more outspoken about wanting to be posted than any other NPB player. Chen
: is Taiwanese, but signed with Chunichi as an amateur out of high school,
: apparently without any provisions to make him a free agent if he and the team
: can’t agree to a contract during the annual negotiations (as veteran foreign
: players who sign from 3A or Korea usually do). This is an unusual situation,
: but not unprecedented, as the first couple postings for Dominican players the
: Hiroshima Carp had signed as amateurs, including current Giant Ramon Ramirez.
: Chen does appear to be serious about MLB, as he hired agent Alan Nero last
: offseason, and I expect him to push to be posted again this year.
: Chen features NPB’s top lefty power arsenal, primarily throwing fastballs
: and sliders, while mixing in occasional forkballs and the random big, loopy
: curve. His fastball reaches 95 mph or so, but usually sits around 90-92,
: while his slider breaks in on righthanded batters and sits in the 85-87
: range. Chen has been letting his pitches get up in the zone much more this
: season, and is showing more of a flyball tendency than he did last year.
: The Chen video I have is two hours of game footage from his August 17 start,
: against Seth Greisinger and the Giants. The video occasionally switches to a
: Yokohama game, but still gives you a better sense of what Chen throws than a
: 10-minute highlight reel will.
: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/more-npb-prospects-you-should-know/
Wei-Yin Chen (LHP, Chunichi Dragons, 25) ─ 陳偉殷
去年球季結束後，陳偉殷幾乎是日職裡最直言想去MLB的球員。陳偉殷是台灣人，但是高中
畢業後以業餘球員身分和中日龍隊簽約，如果他和球隊在年度協商中沒有達成共識(從3A
或韓國簽來的非新人外國球員都必須經歷這一段)，顯然沒有任何的條款能使他成為自由
球員。這是一個不尋常的狀況，但並不是沒有先例，廣島鯉曾經簽下兩位業餘身分的
多明尼加球員，其中一名是現在仍在MLB巨人隊的Ramon Ramirez。
陳偉殷認真的考慮MLB一事，他在上個球季結束後雇用了Alan Nero當經紀人，我猜他會在
今年再提出來一次。陳偉殷號稱NPB的頂尖砲彈左投，拿手的是快速球和滑球、搭配一點
指叉球，佐以隨機的曲球。他的快速球可達到95 mph，但平均是在90~92之間。滑球能以
85~87 mph竄入右打者之中。陳偉殷本季將好球帶設定的比較高，比去年增加了更多飛球的
趨勢。我有從他去年8/17先發的兩小時影片剪輯，對手是巨人隊、投手是Seth
Greisinger。
這段影片偶爾會切換到橫濱的比賽，但仍然能比你看10分鐘的highlight更了解陳偉殷。

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推 KeithTseng:有看有推
推 whalelover:應該是跟swing mechanics有關的詞吧(?)
推 Jimimy:Hiroshima Carp是廣島鯉魚 不是人名
推 eon4:頂尖左投軍火庫 能不能翻成 砲彈左投? 感覺意義比較接近
推 herolgg:shorten up那邊是指打擊動作比較小的意思嗎??
推 abc12812:power arsenal是說兵工廠隊很強的意思
→ LupinVI:整體來看應該只是說他球速在日本算很快的意思而已
推 itaiitai:推~
→ darkness0918:Back-leg就是揮棒時重心擺在後面,像BB爺那種揮棒
推 mytim0508:應該是指揮棒之前  前跨腳會先往後縮再踩
→ jojo2147:= = 樓上有看過他揮棒嗎?
推 DIorShi:與中日龍隊簽約成為業餘球員?
推 Kinra:a大XDDDD
推 kutar3d:這裡的amateur應該是指育成選手
推 FatBearInn:shorten up是在一個形容stride的子句裡 是指他有時會把
→ FatBearInn:大跨步縮小
推 FatBearInn:outspoken是直率表達 陳偉殷的第一句是說上個offseason
→ FatBearInn:a他就已經直言表達他想去MLB。
推 Hotsheep:長知識推!
→ Jason11982:感謝大家的指正！
推 sarspieya521:看了長知識 推!!
推 MrChief:青木的弱肩可能會使他在MLB只能站LF
推 Pujols5:他的Range沒辦法彌補嗎?
→ LupinVI:會簽他的球隊一定還是會把他當CF啦 就看實際打了能不能接
→ LupinVI:受囉~
推 tirple:Turf是人工草皮
推 jerryklu:如果肩比得上大門的話那站CF應該還OK
推 kuyung:Damon弱肩都可以佔中外野好幾年了...青木應該OK吧XD
→ Apolina:amateur不是指育成選手~那段的意思是陳以高卒業餘球員身份
→ Apolina:與中日龍簽約
→ Jason11982:耶？我本來就是翻業餘球員，然後才修文改掉的...
→ Jason11982:所以究竟是？  有請比較熟悉日職的人解釋一下
推 wjp:原po原本是翻與中日簽約成為業餘球員 這意思有差耶...
→ Jason11982:那應該是說，以業餘球員簽約完後的身分變成是？0.0
※ 編輯: Jason11982      來自: 140.113.73.91        (11/16 12:51)
→ Jason11982:又修改了文，這篇錯誤好多...以後還是不要自不量力翻譯
推 gerardo:推~依然感謝J大翻譯!!!
推 wjp:簽約完當然就算是職業選手啦 不管他是育成還是在一軍/二軍
→ wjp:原文會這樣寫 應該是高中畢業通常需經過選秀  而陳偉殷不是
→ wjp:但他也不是海外FA 所以...基本上是以美國的概念去形容他的狀況