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標題[分享] MLB 10大最難打的球
時間Sun Nov 20 15:29:18 2011
youtube看到的,跟大家分享(應該有板友已經看過了)
但目前只能找到八個,剩下兩個不知道是誰
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MLB 10大最難打的球 Hoffman - ChangeUp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQgVvnTCx0s
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MLB 10大最難打的球 Billy Wagner - 超快速球
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFM48QzXHCM
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MLB 10大最難打的球 NOMO Forkball
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVgJvy74ras
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MLB 10大最難打的球 Eyre - Curveball
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-0GAo5ZTU0
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MLB 10大最難打的球 王建民 - 伸卡球
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvxYOMSg0Cg
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MLB 10大最難打的球 Clemens SFF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRXdfBfSQxI
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MLB 10大最難打的球 Rivera - 卡特球
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mv3jLYHvX6o
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MLB 10大最難打的球 Herandez - ChangeUp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-Tdk_x4W0Y
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另外,附上ESPN認為的十大魔球:
1) Mariano Rivera's cut fastball:
A few years ago, when Rivera was unquestionably in his prime, this was
arguably the Toughest Pitch in Baseball. Rivera broke more bats with this
than any pitcher in the game. Now, Rivera is older and there are more clicks
on his pitching odometer. But still, this is a dominant pitch thrown by a
dominant closer.
"It's such a hard pitch to recognize,'' says Jim Kaat, former pitcher and
current Yankees broadcaster. "Left-handed hitters know it's coming and it
still doesn't help. If you cheat and try to get out front, you pull it. And
if you wait on it, it ties you up inside. It's just the perfect pitch.''
2) Kerry Wood's curveball:
Like Nolan Ryan, the Texas gunslinger whom Wood emulates, the combination of
a 95-mph fastball and a hard-breaking curveball presents a lethal combination.
Not many pitchers throw an over-the-top curve anymore, as the slider has
become the breaking pitch of preference. But Wood not only has the 12-to-6
break, he also throws it nearly as hard as some lesser pitchers throw their
fastball.
"That hard, sharp break is filthy,'' says one major league manager.
3) John Smoltz' slider:
When Smoltz was a starter, he varied his repertoire more, pacing himself for
a 100-pitch outing. Now that he operates exclusively out of the bullpen as
Atlanta's closer, he doesn't have to pace himself or worry about overexposing
his signature pitch.
If Smoltz is in the game, it means the opponents are trailing. Thanks to this
wicked slider, which darts across the strike zone, it's doubtful the Braves'
lead is going to be squandered.
Eric Gagne sets up hitters with hard stuff before using his changeup to sit
them down.
4) Eric Gagne's changeup:
Like fellow All-Star closers Keith Foulke and Trevor Hoffman, Gagne's best
pitch is this off-speed choice which can upset a hitter's timing. Unlike
Foulke and Hoffman, Gagne has a fastball that tops out in the mid- to
high-90s, and the contrast between the two makes each that much more
effective.
"It really is the old 'Bugs Bunny' change,'' says an advance scout. "You can
swing at it three times and still not hit it.''
5) Roger Clemens' split-finger fastball:
A few years ago, in a postseason interview session, Clemens famously -- and
comically -- referred to "Mr. Splittee,'' his nickname for his devastating,
darting fastball.
Catching up with Clemens' four-seamer is a challenge in and of itself. But
when he mixes in this, often in the dirt, hitters can look awfully foolish as
they go fishing.
"The guy's a physical marvel,'' one baseball executive says. "He may have
lost a little velocity on his hard stuff, but not much.''
6) Tim Wakefield's knuckleball:
When Wakefield's signature pitch flattens, it's an inviting target and easier
to hit than a batting practice fastball. Just ask Aaron Boone.
But when the conditions are right and the knuckler is moving, there's no more
confounding pitch in the game. Go ahead -- try to hit a butterfly with your
bat.
The knuckler has all but disappeared from the game -- Steve Sparks still
mixes one in and Mike Mussina toys with a knuckle-curve -- meaning hitters
only to get see it a few times per season. For many, that's plenty.
7) Billy Wagner's four-seam fastball:
This pitch defies the laws of physics. Actually, Wagner defies the laws of
physics.
"You see him,'' says Red Sox GM Theo Epstein, "and you wonder: how does that
pitch come from that body.''
Wagner's listed height and weight -- 5-foot-11, 195 pounds -- seems
preposterous. He seems an inch or two shorter and a good 20 pounds lighter
than that. But somehow -- good genes, arm speed -- he delivers, often
registering 100 mph on radar guns.
Sure, velocity may be overrated. But not in this case.
"No one ever gets comfortable against him,'' adds a scout.
8) Barry Zito's curveball:
Zito's curveball is the perfect West Coast pitch, as it befits the hurler
himself -- mellow and relaxed.
While Wood's curveball is sharp and powerful, Zito's deuce is soft and
gradual. It freezes hitters as it ever-so-gradually rolls from top to bottom,
as if delivered to the plate on a cloud.
9) Kevin Brown's sinker:
Brown is older now and has a variety of physical problems -- seven trips to
the disabled list since 2000 -- have reduced his durability. But healthy, as
he seems to be this season for the Yankees, he still has this devastating
power sinker.
Try as they might to lay off it, hitters can't help but pound the ball into
the ground, making for a busy night for his infielders, but a long,
frustrating night for the opponent.
"That thing is so heavy and explosive -- it's like lead,'' marvels one GM.
10) Jim Mecir's screwball:
The screw ball is something of a baseball dinosaur, nearing extinction on the
mound. Fernando Valenzuela's signature pitch in the 1980s, it's slowly
disappeared in the last decade. Only a handful of pitchers -- including John
Franco -- throw it with any degree of regularity.
Though right-handed, Mecir's scroogie has almost turned him into a
situational lefty since the pitch eats up left-handed hitters. Unfortunately
for Mecir, right-handed hitters don't have nearly as much trouble with it.
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→ jason78715:王葛格的伸卡友這麼厲害?! 11/20 15:34
→ myass:Kevin Brown的sinker強多了吧 = = 11/20 15:37
→ mj813:王葛格的伸卡球?? 哈哈我笑了~ 這種報導真的會誤導新手球迷 11/20 15:38
推 COLLA1003:王威的時候是蠻威的 不過他的伸卡不夠格跟上面的討論 11/20 15:40
推 maikxz:速度快 變化幅度又不小 11/20 15:41
→ LupinVI:老王全盛期的伸卡的確有接近KB等級啦 不然其他球種那麼爛 11/20 15:41
→ LupinVI:在美東早就掛定了 11/20 15:41
推 ruffryders:好懷念日米交流賽 11/20 15:47
推 ottokang:能靠一種球種拿19勝,還是在美聯東區,真的滿強的 11/20 15:48
推 Sevorlaga:【超級喜歡Billy Wagner】 11/20 15:50
推 Cowyau:怎麼都沒有提到SANTANA的變速? 11/20 15:51
→ PlayStation3:這是原YT主自己上傳定義的吧。 11/20 15:52
推 felix1984:Martinez的變速跟曲球還有2seamer都很屌啊 11/20 15:53
→ felix1984:johnson的滑球? 11/20 15:53
推 AWainwright:王建民全盛時期伸卡很猛好不?= = 11/20 15:55
推 abc12812:Eyre是誰? 很強嗎? 11/20 15:57
推 ricky158207:猛歸猛但要看是放在哪裡比啊 就像ACE跟CYA也是有差的 11/20 15:57
推 lulanjia:王葛葛全盛期伸卡球本來就極品 有啥好懷疑的..... 11/20 16:01
推 dp44:沒人說王不好 不過KB應該更好 11/20 16:08
→ kennyone:Great 和 Top one of Sinker.. 應該還是有差吧..... 11/20 16:08
噓 KS23:純噓某樓 11/20 16:09
推 LuisB:只講球種不談投手的話王或許有 但這種幾大的很容易就吵起來 11/20 16:09
推 savishu:王整場只投伸卡你還打不好,應該排第一名難打 11/20 16:12
→ LuisB:例如Schilling Maddux Mussina 這幾個要怎麼排 11/20 16:13
推 tupacshkur:現在想想王葛格真的蠻屌的!! 在美東火藥庫連兩年19勝 11/20 16:13
推 redsnipertd:KB:"Yeah, right" 11/20 16:16
→ savishu:而且只靠一顆伸卡的先發在美東存活,有人像他一樣嗎? 11/20 16:17
→ ShaShoukun:......KB基本上也可以只丟sinker丟滿整場。 11/20 16:25
推 steven211037:MOOSE的呢? 11/20 16:25
→ kuosos520:美東火藥庫 王本身就在最大的火藥庫當投手.. 11/20 16:27
推 cloudslands:PEDRO的變速球勒? 11/20 16:31
推 rssh0106:老實說 Randy Pedro Schilling Maddux Mussina 11/20 16:46
→ rssh0106:Santana Felix都沒排進去 這評比笑笑就好 11/20 16:47
→ rssh0106:這表太多救援了... 11/20 16:48
推 lucky360:RJ的滑球一定是史上最難打前三名吧 又快又犀利 11/20 16:57
推 kevin340332:這表大概就MO的無疑問可以排進最難打前10吧 11/20 16:57
推 tyyouth:沒有RJ的滑球0.0??? 11/20 16:57
推 lucky360:Zito的曲球也沒問題 他拿賽揚時的曲球像從大峽谷掉下來的 11/20 16:59
→ qw6789q:RJ 滑球跟直球 都很猛 11/20 17:02
推 Connec:這裡是在比從投手丘投來的 RJ那從一壘來的不算 (大誤 11/20 17:03
推 inaction:王的伸卡的確很強 但和KB比起來 恐怕還是有一點差距吧 至 11/20 17:04
→ inaction:於美東火藥庫的連續兩年19勝 基本上他在洋基就已經是一大 11/20 17:05
→ inaction:利多 避開大聯盟火力最強之一 而且還可以做後盾 11/20 17:06
推 ark7784:記得07年Eric Bedard的曲球非常變態 11/20 17:06
推 jqp9b:我懂了,他是把RJ跟pedro這型的排在十大打不到的球。 11/20 17:44
→ hitomi7636:KB sinker 11/20 17:45
→ page5566:來這個版看看影片分享就好了,推文看了浪費時間 11/20 17:47
推 globekjller:這種東西 等王退休在來緬懷就好了 11/20 18:05
→ globekjller:現在王要面對的是新球季 新挑戰 和新的自己 11/20 18:06
推 ultratimes:近幾年洋基能連兩年19勝的投手,除了CC也只有王了吧.. 11/20 18:31
推 nbafrancis:RJ的滑球算火星裡最難打的球路 11/20 18:31
→ PTTHuang:查了一下王在美東成績,除了06對藍鳥光芒外,其他都普普 11/20 18:35
推 tsaiwaichen:要講伸卡球 Kevin Brown比王建民有代表性多了... 11/20 18:37
→ PTTHuang:06對紅襪金鶯,07對金鶯藍鳥都很慘,一點説服力都沒有 11/20 18:39
→ PTTHuang:KB拿超過200勝,在台灣球迷眼裡比不上王葛葛 11/20 18:45
推 MinChuan:王的伸卡絕對超難打,不然其他變化球鳥成那樣 11/20 19:00
→ MinChuan:伸卡不夠威在美東早就被炸到NYY不想要了 11/20 19:00
→ sonnyissonny:XDDDDD 樓上明褒暗貶 11/20 19:03
推 Tzylu:沒有RJ的滑球? 11/20 19:25
推 devilsky:RJ的滑球是屬於打不到的類型 11/20 19:46
推 jrump:樓上XD 11/20 20:16
推 mathrew:Wang 的伸卡很難打沒錯, 但是前10大, 就不予置評 11/20 20:30
→ lahugh:恩 王建民~ 儘管難打 但排前十...... 11/20 20:35
推 usapie:怎麼沒有達比修的slurve? 11/20 20:37
→ ktoaoeex:樓上ID不意外 11/20 20:40
推 tirple:Wood那顆其實就是Slurve, 他後來因為一直丟到受傷就封印了 11/20 20:43
→ LupinVI:美國派真難伺候 這篇里明明挺他本命建仔的也不少 還要來串 11/20 20:45
推 Beltran:批踢踢十大最爛反串可能比較好選 11/20 20:55
推 pinpon:反串到被大家當笑話看也滿可悲的 11/20 20:59
推 maikxz:真悲哀 11/20 21:11
推 sadnight:大概是現實生活太沒存在感只好來PTT當小白博取版面吧 11/20 21:13
→ maxspeed150:我覺得他最厲害的是 沒梗 也沒啥人被他釣中 11/20 21:17
→ maxspeed150:但是卻可以推同樣的東西推不膩 11/20 21:17
→ maikxz:從開始玩這就沒啥人想理 現在有人理卻被當笑話拿出來看待才 11/20 21:18
→ maikxz:是悲哀 11/20 21:19
推 iver0225:美國派怎麼沒說井川慶的變速球呢? 11/20 21:35
推 asdf121250:友王葛格應該也要來一下webb吧 11/20 21:36
推 Davidwang983:推幹爺~~ 11/20 21:56
推 katanakiller:王的伸卡很好打到啊~ 但飛不出去 11/20 22:33
推 jardon:每次看最多對王的評論就是"19W還不是靠打線"XDDDDDDD 11/20 22:40
推 secpeda:竟然沒有神之右手??????? 11/20 22:55
推 kenro:拿來戰王其實很白濫 11/20 23:24
→ yeng1217:打不到跟難打不一樣XDD 難怪RJ跟Pedro不在 11/20 23:28
推 maikxz:打不到不是放在這個等級的 11/20 23:42
推 joseph316:老王算強了啦~只是長一局爆~(最常聽到哎呀~手太早開掉) 11/21 00:45
推 mark0912n:Zito轉去巨人後 曲球就從大峽谷變路邊水溝了... 11/21 02:49
推 kepf:有王在裡頭..這篇真實性看看就好XD 11/21 05:25
推 sg1987:王全盛時期是"當年"的十大無誤 11/21 10:54
推 searching87:ESPN這十大武器球是2004年版的,本版第45篇就是了 11/21 12:18
→ Apolina:會認為王排不進來~應該是因為其他人的都是必殺球種~打不到 11/21 12:19
→ Apolina:或望球興嘆的比例很高~相對王的伸卡是打的到但打不好 11/21 12:21
→ Apolina:等級上感覺是有落差的~ 11/21 12:21
→ searching87:至於這10大最難打的球,原文在王版267篇 是版友的熱情 11/21 12:23
→ searching87:與期待啦~ 11/21 12:23
→ EEERRIICC:老王伸卡球K力不佳 感覺排不進來是正常 11/21 12:33
→ EEERRIICC:但是真的很不好打吧XD 11/21 12:33
推 Rubio5566:同推文 怎麼可能會沒有RJ的slider 11/21 17:20
推 camouflage:可惜這是2004的野茂 已經不復全盛時期的風采 11/21 22:45