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http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/20057/ranking-the-five-best-starting-rotations 5. Arizona Diamondbacks: Ian Kennedy, Daniel Hudson, Trevor Cahill, Joe Saunders, Josh Collmenter. The D-backs' rotation ERA in 2011 was 3.84, but as I pointed out yesterday, that included 31 starts from scrubs at the bottom of the rotation who combined for a 6.07 ERA. As is, thanks to the durability of Kennedy, Hudson and Saunders, who all topped 200 innings, Arizona still ranked second in the NL in starters' innings. They've replaced those bottom feeders with Cahill and I also like that they have depth in the wings with prospects Trevor Bauer and Wade Miley. Nobody survives with just five starters, and it's that depth that I think gives Arizona the slight edge over division rival San Francisco. 4. New York Yankees: CC Sabathia, Hiroki Kuroda, Michael Pineda, Ivan Nova, A.J. Burnett/Phil Hughes/Freddy Garcia. While it's true that Brian Cashman improved the rotation last week with the acquisitions of Kuroda and Pineda, keep in mind that the Yankee rotation was actually pretty good last season, and that was with Burnett and Hughes combining for a 5.36 ERA over 46 starts. The main reason this group doesn't rank higher: Pineda and Nova haven't proven they can handle a 200-inning workload, as Pineda threw 171 innings and Nova 165 as rookies. 3. Texas Rangers: Yu Darvish, Derek Holland, Matt Harrison, Colby Lewis, Neftali Feliz. Let's be clear here: Lewis may have been tabbed as the Opening Day starter, but Darvish is expected to be the ace of this team. The Rangers didn't shell out more than $100 million for a No. 3 starter. The Texas rotation was vastly underrated last season, as it posted a 3.65 ERA (third in the AL), despite pitching in the best hitting park in the AL. The concerns are that Feliz is moving from the bullpen and remains a bit of wild card, both in production and durability; remember, Alexi Ogando made the same move in 2011 and was fatigued by the end of the season. Harrison also threw over 200 innings between the regular season and playoffs, so we'll have to see how he rebounds from the heaviest workload of his career. But having depth with Ogando and Feldman helps alleviate some of those concerns. 2. Los Angeles Angels: Jered Weaver, Dan Haren, C.J. Wilson, Ervin Santana, Jerome Williams. Weaver, Haren and Santana averaged 234 innings in 2011 and now they've add Wilson to the mix. He threw 223 innings for the Rangers. The last team with four starters to pitch 220 innings? The 1997 Atlanta Braves. That team won 101 games. Wilson could have a monster season -- after all, he posted a 2.31 ERA on the road last year and allowed just six home runs in 18 starts. Pitching behind Weaver and Haren should take away some of the pressure of the big contract. Yes, Williams is a bit of a question mark in the five-hole, but while they traded away Tyler Chatwood the Angels still have power arm Garrett Richards as depth. 1. Philadelphia Phillies: Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee, Cole Hamels, Vance Worley, Joe Blanton/Kyle Kendrick. Still the best rotation, especially with Worley providing numbers in the fourth position. There isn't anything in his statistical line that screams "fluke" about his 3.01 ERA, so I expect a solid sophomore season. Like the Angels, the final spot is shaky, but when you have three aces, you can survive just fine with Blanton or Kendrick. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.112.25.133
a7v333:巨人呢? 01/20 10:51
Jeter:NYY找來黑田和Pineda後輪值大補 01/20 10:52
EEERRIICC:原來沒有巨人 唉 01/20 10:52
vincexxx:老人的輪值竟然沒有前五!! 01/20 10:54
canonring151:旅統一 01/20 10:55
vanprasth:沒Rays @_@ 01/20 10:57
beareyes:費城三本柱 01/20 10:59
chigo520:紅襪 哭哭 01/20 11:10
Lordleo:達比修排一號喔... 01/20 11:11
kenny781558:沒光芒?? 01/20 11:16
maxspeed150:紅襪排上去才有鬼 那什麼破爛後段輪值 01/20 11:19
maxspeed150:我修改 那已經不是破爛後段輪值 是根本沒後段輪值 01/20 11:20
Valter:以能力來說算一號 實際上還有不確定性所以排定是三號 01/20 11:22
FrozenIce:怎麼可能沒老人= = 先發輪值的防禦率是數一數二的欸 01/20 11:30
sulaIX:林斯肯,坎恩,邦加納,瓦基松 01/20 11:33
evilwyh:對條子存疑 其他沒意見 01/20 11:33
ashram:沒選巨人的理由根本就是作者自己的感覺.. 01/20 11:34
Valter:這樣看起來大概是因為第五號有落差... 01/20 11:35
Valter:排在上面的都是有五個以上值得期待有好表現的 Zito就... 01/20 11:36
gdntust:沒巨人應該是作者自己的評論 小蛇文中最後有講 她覺得小蛇 01/20 11:36
sulaIX:條子的輪值...排到前五是? 01/20 11:36
su43123:ESPN越來越豪洨了 01/20 11:36
gdntust:先發深度比老人好 01/20 11:36
Bagwell5:沒巨人也太誇張 01/20 11:38
jiatodao:NYY排得進去有點莫名其妙 01/20 11:46
jason12308:有預測NYY居然沒預測巨人.....看看那精美的SP ERA 01/20 11:48
awano:條子輪值去年就已經是防禦率AL第三 吃局數前三 全員13W up 01/20 11:49
kenny781558:費城人沒寫到最近簽下的Joel Pineiro 01/20 11:49
awano:存疑三小? (不過沒巨人確實是怪...) 01/20 11:50
awano:還在過以前條子打強投弱的夢嗎 01/20 11:51
douglas56:沒光芒 沒巨人 居然有條子 亂排 01/20 11:51
JakeMcGee:沒巨人有點怪 但NYY季後補了兩隻 現在前三號也很猛阿 01/20 11:52
kenny781558:條子 洋基 被高估 01/20 11:52
Zamned:巨人三張A擠不到前五? 01/20 11:53
evilwyh:走了一個CJ 來一個沒打過一季的達比休 不能存疑? 01/20 11:56
evilwyh:不然你小三喔? 01/20 11:57
maxspeed150:......請看看條子拿掉CJ後的輪值長怎樣再來存疑可否? 01/20 12:00
maxspeed150:即使拿掉CJ 條子的輪值哪裡有問題了? 01/20 12:01
tseng40:可能是因為條子輪值目前沒True Ace 雖然整體很平均就是了 01/20 12:13
tseng40:不過覺得Rays也不錯啊 怎沒人提 Price,盾哥,HellBoy,Moore 01/20 12:14
tseng40:再加上還是有淺力的Wade和Niemann(不太會拚) 01/20 12:15
KISSFORMISS:條子Holland去年算爆蠻大的 Feliz拉到先發表現不知道 01/20 12:17
KISSFORMISS:會如何 光這兩個那麼不穩定的我就不覺得他們輪值夠格 01/20 12:17
KISSFORMISS:排第三 更何況還有個一球都沒投過的達比修...... 01/20 12:18
Sabathia721:洋基在一天內補進二號跟三號SP XD 01/20 12:18
maxspeed150:Holland: 對不起我爆很大QQ 我只丟了198IP ERA+113 01/20 12:23
KISSFORMISS:雖然是條子板板主 不過直接嗆人家存疑三小好像不太好 01/20 12:24
maxspeed150:要討論可能會發生在Holland身上的Verducci effect 01/20 12:24
maxspeed150:和去年Holland到底有沒有爆 意義差很多 01/20 12:24
maxspeed150:Feliz的不確定性人家文章裡寫得很清楚 01/20 12:25
maxspeed150:主要就是認為 即使考慮到Feliz的不確定性 還是有depth 01/20 12:26
KISSFORMISS:我知道他有提到Ogando和Feldman可以補上 但就算條子 01/20 12:28
KISSFORMISS:輪值維持去年成績 感覺也排不到全聯盟第三吧? 01/20 12:28
awano:Feliz不穩 補上來的是ERA+127的Ogando 條子的輪值怕的是健 01/20 12:28
Zamned:條子和光芒 鄙人還是比較青睞光芒的輪值 =_= 01/20 12:29
awano:康問題 01/20 12:29
KISSFORMISS:有關Holland我應該修正為開季爆很大 一直到八月左右 01/20 12:30
maxspeed150:健康問題是真的 Holland, Harrison都有受傷風險.... 01/20 12:30
KISSFORMISS:才穩下來 抱歉 01/20 12:30
jagr:我覺得Holland是有機會成為ACE的投手,但不可否認他的成績因 01/20 12:50
jagr:為在西區對上運動家跟水手這兩個貧打球隊較多有點灌水 01/20 12:51
WuAShan:明明就有ERA+可以看 為啥還要用對戰球隊來評斷灌水??? 01/20 12:59
rover10:兩位板主不必激動,誰叫咱家的投手一直給人爆很大的印象呢 01/20 13:00
rover10:而且又在阿靈頓一定更加深那印象哈哈 01/20 13:01
Zamned:事實上 Holland 的客場成績遠高於主場 阿靈頓太恐怖啦 01/20 13:05
jacky77437:有洋基卻沒有光芒有點扯.... 01/20 13:43
evilwyh:推個存疑 就要被嗆三小 誰還跟你討論 你講都對別人都屎尿 01/20 13:46
catsondbs:我也不懷疑條子的先 不過ERA+和對戰球隊的確沒關係呀 XD 01/20 14:00
catsondbs: 發 01/20 14:00
slider4520:洋基排到第四有點扯 01/20 14:35
hisaken:真的只有費城前三ace排第一讓人完全信服 01/20 14:44
vanBomme17:問題@@/ ERA+為啥跟對戰隊伍無關?? 他是拿ERA下去做計 01/20 14:53
vanBomme17:算的不是嗎? 然後在對球場因素計算 這樣對戰對手的攻擊 01/20 14:54
vanBomme17:能力還是會影響到ERA 也會影響ERA+不是嗎? 01/20 14:54
blackdevil:為何NYY可以排到第四???? 01/20 14:58
zwchih:NYY是最不合理的 01/20 15:23
JakeMcGee:先搞懂EAR+的定義再說吧 01/20 15:36
nic789:推個存疑 就要被嗆 以後谁還敢討論啊。 01/20 15:47
vanprasth:http://0rz.tw/b4VEk 去年的先發成績 01/20 15:49
nic789:一個是都還沒投過,一個是剛轉先發,被質疑剛剛好而已。 01/20 15:52
wmp12linux:條子 意外嗎? 01/20 16:07
sw926301:還真以為自己警察勒ZZ 01/20 17:32
scrays:光芒怎麼可能排不進前五名...= = 01/20 18:12
douglas56:條子版主 不意外~ 自我感覺相當良好 容不下其他一點想法 01/20 18:23
jayin07:旅台就是神~~~~~~ 01/20 18:27
jayin07:基基好可憐~去年殘缺輪值可以丟到全聯盟top10 01/20 18:35
jayin07:現在補了兩個好投手加上兩、三個備案,排進top5就是扯~ 01/20 18:36
wmp12linux:這要怎麼叫別人不要一竿子打翻一船人...... 01/20 18:43
awano:你要存疑也像KISSFORMISS一樣講出你的疑點啊 有在討論嗎? 01/20 19:09
awano:不過anyway 戰是我引起的 就是不對 下不為例 01/20 19:13
awano:一般雖然對達比修沒有百分之百的信任 但是通常都認為他的 01/20 19:14
awano:成績不會比松板第一年差 甚至不會比野茂第一年差 01/20 19:15
awano:如果真的適應不良 也不會跟條子前一個簽的亞洲投手一樣是個 01/20 19:16
awano:災難 寫這個的人是從這個出發點寫的 至於Feliz 因為有 01/20 19:17
awano:Ogando/Feldman這些備案 產率"理論上"會比大聯盟平均五號 01/20 19:19
awano:高上不少... 有沒有前三我不敢說 至少沒巨人跟光芒好 01/20 19:20
awano:但是排前五並不如一些人想像的誇張 但是一切都很難說啦 01/20 19:22
awano:七八隻SP保險一年掛了四五隻也不是不可能 問Mets就知道 01/20 19:24
vou89kot:小蛇的五號先發應該會競爭激烈 01/20 19:36
maxspeed150:一年掛4,5隻...這根本就是紅襪的傷心事..... 01/20 20:04
coolbosses:說好的國民哩~~ 01/20 21:51
vfr:條子版主在這裡搞笑也不是第一次了 比在ws吃屎的次數還多 lol 01/20 22:23
EEERRIICC:太另我存疑了 條子 01/20 23:24
gonzalez0528:等你比人家懂在來說人家搞笑吧 XDD 01/21 00:56
riahserf:推一句存疑就要被嗆三小 原來先講三小=理性討論 01/21 02:00
HXZ:沒差啦 今年打了就知道 有些球隊想WS吃屎還吃不到 01/21 03:32
douglas56:要比他不懂還真不容易 想想去年季中交易 就可以證明啦~ 01/21 10:03
su43123:看來很多人球季還沒開始就要先進DL冷靜一下腦袋 01/21 12:00
x24627785:被S囉 這種天氣被凼好冷( ̄ー ̄;) 01/21 12:43
Bagwell5:國民和紅雀輪值升級的可能都還很大 01/21 16:09
tony160079:沒SF 笑笑就好 01/23 22:46