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作者把Pineda歸類到有明顯問題和傷病風險的那區 http://tinyurl.com/7tjclqo There has been extensive discussion among Yankee fans about whether new Yankee pitcher Michael Pineda has the Inverted W or not. The bottom line on Michael Pineda's pitching mechanics is that I do not see the Inverted W in Michael Pineda's pitching mechanics, but I do see some things that concern me. First, Michael Pineda doesn't have a classic Inverted W. While his elbows do get a bit high, it's borderline at best. You can see some hints of a timing problem in the two pictures above, and in the picture directly above in particular. The thing to notice is how Michael Pineda's arm is passing through 90 degrees of external rotation but his glove side elbow has pulled back significantly and his shoulders have rotated significantly. That suggests that his arm is a bit late. You can see the same thing in the pictures above of Michael Pineda; notice how his Pitching Arm Side (PAS) forearm is vertical and at 90 degrees of external rotation and his Glove Side (GS) elbow is well behind his back. That is often an indication of a timing problem. However, what Michael Pineda does isn't as drastic as what Stephen Strasburg does; notice how much later Stephen Strasburg's PAS forearm is. Strasburg's PAS forearm is closer to horizontal whereas Michael Pineda's PAS forearm is closer to vertical, which is a significant difference. What concerns me the most about Michael Pineda's arm action is that he seems to show the ball to Center Field. Many people teach this, but it's both unnecessary and potentially injurious. If you look at high speed clips of Michael Pineda, you can see his PAS forearm rotate around at the last second as gets his hand into position to throw the ball. That late torqueing can create a timing problem and can increase the load on both the elbow and the shoulder. In the high-speed clip above, notice how he shows the ball to Center Field and how this causes his arm to be late and appears to create a timing problem. He also does all of this with his PAS elbow quite high, and possibly above the level of his shoulders in a position of Hyperabduction. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.109.64.169
charlie01:風險不小這大家都知道 但有沒發生其實就是一翻兩瞪眼.. 03/31 16:01
lovejeely:Lincecum的投球機制,不是也被歸類成風險很高那一型? 03/31 16:02
abc12812:按作者的歸類 盲腸的機制是大體上良好但有點小瑕疵那類 03/31 16:03
lovejeely:瞭解 03/31 16:04
abc12812:其實我是不太相信倒W之類的這套啦 只是剛好看到了就 03/31 16:04
abc12812:貼上來分享一下 03/31 16:05
ankero:這作者寫得東西很有意思喔 我覺得有點道理 03/31 16:23
sky419012:請問倒W跟W的投球姿勢差在哪嗎? 03/31 17:00
sky419012:我只記得小史和之前小熊的Prior好像是倒W的樣子... 03/31 17:01
oralboralb:Verlander好像是W的樣子,投球超協調又輕鬆 03/31 17:28
conjohn:影片中看起來手的確有過慢的問題 影片看起對肩膀和手肘的 03/31 17:50
conjohn:都很大 03/31 17:50
conjohn:負擔 03/31 17:51
FatBearInn:我有個很小的問題..為什麼倒W不叫作M型就好,是因為 03/31 18:34
FatBearInn:正常的投球機制是W型嗎? 03/31 18:35
FatBearInn:啊,找到解釋倒W的文章了,是這樣沒錯 03/31 18:43
ankero:有肩或肘傷的投手 與倒W的投球機制有密切關係 03/31 18:59
skcwebb:為何要講倒W不講M? 03/31 22:13
o0991758566:Lincecum是個怪咖,不能以常理判斷 03/31 22:29
BMHSEA:倒w 和M長得不一樣啊... 03/31 22:55
borriss:真的用M那個角度 會傷更快吧... 04/01 00:57
Hans14:http://tinyurl.com/84qdhjj 看起來這球員就屬於左側那型 04/01 01:32
Hans14:http://tinyurl.com/7q2we8h 這網址才對 04/01 13:32
lolity:因為「標準」的姿勢是W(ex.Maddux),所以稱不標準姿勢為倒W 04/01 23:46