Re: [討論] CP災難年？

[searoar (暗坑大豆)]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/tom_verducci/04/17/closers/index.html

半個月前 Tom Verducci 的專欄(節錄):

‧ Sixty-six percent of 2011 Opening Day closers (20 of 30) are no longer
   closing for the same team 12 months later, with seven of them hurt.
‧ Fifty percent of all starting pitchers will go on the DL every year, as
   well as 34 percent of all relievers. That bears repeating: half of all
   starting pitchers will break down this year.
‧ Injuries last year cost clubs $487 million -- or about $16 million per
   team. The bill since 2008 for players who can't play is $1.9 billion.

醫療和訓練進步，受傷卻愈多
The incidence of injuries went down slightly in one brief period: the back
end of the steroid era, when sophisticated, cutting-edge use of illegal
performance-enhancers -- not the industrial-strength, gym-rat regimens of the
early adopters -- were keeping people on the field and aiding in recovery.

But since 2007 -- right after amphetamines joined steroids on the banned list
-- the rate of injuries has not improved despite the advances in science,
nutrition and training. Walk into any major league clubhouse before a game
and you will see all kinds of strength trainers, masseuses, massage
therapists, doctors, whirlpools, hydrotherapy pools, hot tubs, cold tubs,
weight rooms, gyms ... and injured pitchers.


今年開季蹲傷兵名單的和去年差不多，但因為手痛的卻更多
Sixty-six pitchers began this year on the DL, about the same as last year
(68). But 53 percent of the injured pitchers this year suffered an elbow
injury, a jump from 23 percent.

Conte's research on Tommy John surgery shows that 85 to 90 percent of
patients return to pitching. For repeat Tommy John patients, the news is not
so good. Seven of 10 relievers who underwent a second Tommy John operation
made it back while only one out of seven starters returned.


...
以前終結者沒有"只用一局"的限制反而比較耐操

        the number of times a pitcher saved 25 games
        while throwing at least 81 regular season innings:
        1980-89         64
        1990-99         27
        2000-09         21
        2010-11          0

Only five pitchers saved 25 games three times in the past five years and
are still closing: Jose Valverde, Mariano Rivera, Jonathan Papelbon,
Heath Bell and Joe Nathan


噴掉的錢：
Wilson, Soria, Madson, Bailey and Farnsworth will earn $30.2 million
combined this year.

當時還沒有Mo。即使像光芒這樣省錢且懂得善用的球隊也無法避免
Tampa Bay Rays since 2008 has done just fine with five different pitchers
leading the team in saves over those five years: Troy Percival, J.P. Howell,
Rafael Soriano, Farnsworth and Fernando Rodney. Total cost: $15.8 million.
And all of them, to varying degrees, have broken down.

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推 jshuang:這會被戰喔.... XD
推 lp2348:所以要多多學習中職跟日職的投手操度
推 ShadowMask:紅襪教練表示:
推 frank123ya:所以就是多丟一點 丟久了就不會受傷了
推 jardon:大情人:
→ saidon:中職,日職:投到連痛都怕你 那就不會痛了
→ SatoTakuma:丟太少局數
→ ultratimes:他們應該把郭泰源請去當投教
推 EVA96:揮臂的速度超過光速的時候就可以穿梭時間 回復到受傷前的手
推 WandererKent:好文推~
推 skf:以前應該操爆更多選手 只是就死在小聯盟了 沒人留意 能活下來
→ skf:升上MLB的已證明老天眷顧就是耐操型的  因此才會有這種錯覺
→ Herlin:他那個數字(>25 SV >81 IP 人數) 不能證明以前的比較耐操吧
→ Herlin:啊就使用方法不同而已 要用別的來比才對吧
→ searoar:我覺得他就是想說操一局比操多局容易死
→ searoar:一個投手固定操一局 和 很多投手分很多局操 的不同
→ vergilmir:所以是固定一局就會全力投 多投幾局反而會留力?
推 power1234567:會不會也是因為這樣打者有變強
→ power1234567:導致投手要投一局的強度也大增
推 ccl007:這種抱怨文 如果是中文應該會被噓 科科
推 MotoDawn:不能在同意樓上在多了
推 Herlin:我倒是覺得上兩樓腦補十分嚴重
推 sjvious:值得探討玩味
推 prereality:我是覺得以前沒有辦法把人的極限發揮出來反而是保護了
→ prereality:人的身體 現在訓練方式雖然可以讓人挑戰極速但感覺上就
→ prereality:是個兩面刃
推 ccl007:你看棒子爺八零年代的體格跟到後面的體格成長就知道了
→ ccl007:扣除掉*之外 運動科學訓練對人幫助就好像賽車引擎性能提升
→ ccl007:至於醫療技術進步則是在於出事後補救措施
→ ccl007:車子引越好跟事後維修越棒 可是怎麼車禍還是一堆道理一樣
推 Narancia:你好像忽略了保健技術也進步了...
→ Narancia:用你的舉例法 也可以說現在車子防撞及保護乘客的技術進步
→ Narancia:但是你沒辦法解釋同樣撞上電線杆 保護作更好卻受一樣的傷
→ Narancia:這的確是個值得玩味的問題
推 ccl007:因為車速越來越快 聯盟競技強度整體提升  就算用玻璃纖維
推 ccl007:還在高科技材質 車速越高 還是一樣會GG
推 MotoDawn:科 果然被腦噓了
→ sneak: 投到連痛都怕你 那就不 https://muxiv.com
→ sneak: 我倒是覺得上兩樓腦補十 https://daxiv.com