[情報] WBC不過是個展覽

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 They held a World Golf Championship event in Miami this weekend. Donald
Trump hosted it, at the Trump Doral Trump National Trump Course he recently
purchased and plans to redesign by moving some tees back, replacing the sand
traps with diamonds and remodeling all the greens so they are shaped like his
head.

Anyway, Tiger Woods won this World Golf Championship. But nobody thinks this
makes him the world golf champion. A few weeks ago, Matt Kuchar won another
World Golf Championship event, the match play. But nobody calls Kuchar the
world's match-play golf champion. He is just the golfer who won an event with
that name. I assume he makes this distinction at dinner parties.

And this is the problem with the World Baseball Classic. It decides nothing.

I'm sure it's a fun event. I'm sure it means a lot to the players. I believe
my colleagues who say the atmosphere is electric. I'll take their word for
it, because I'm not watching.

An international event needs to have the best players on every team, or most
of them, and it has to matter intensely to those players. Otherwise it's not
a championship. It's an exhibition. It's a marketing opportunity.

I have nothing against exhibitions. Or marketing opportunities. If I ran
Major League Baseball, I'd stage the World Baseball Classic too, though first
I would cut the regular season to 154 games, make both leagues play under one
set of rules and do something stupid that I could blame on Bobby Valentine.
The World Baseball Classic is a way to "grow the game," so hey, keep growing
it.

But this is the USA pitching staff in the World Baseball Classic:

Jeremy Affeldt

Heath Bell

Mitchell Boggs

Steve Cishek

Tim Collins

Ross Detwiler

R.A. Dickey

Gio Gonzalez

Luke Gregorson

David Hernandez

Derek Holland

Craig Kimbrel

Glen Perkins

Vinnie Pestano

Ryan Vogelsong

There are some very good pitchers on that list -- even casual fans know
Dickey, Gonzalez and Vogelsong. But there is no Clayton Kershaw, no Justin
Verlander, no David Price, no Matt Cain. It is so far from the best American
pitching staff you could put together that we don't even need to discuss it
further. Anybody can see that, and of course that has an enormous impact on
who wins the thing. There is a reason Verlander is gunning for a $200 million
contract and Detwiler is not.

I don't fault those guys. They absolutely should skip the WBC. In an era when
we are so worried about workloads that the Washington Nationals shut down a
healthy young ace in the middle of a pennant race, guys like Kershaw would be
foolish to throw meaningful pitches right now. They need to be ready from
April to October, not in early March.

They can't risk their careers for an exhibition.

And as long as they don't pitch, it is an exhibition.

The World Baseball Classic does not determine which country has the best team
in the world. It doesn't even determine which country has the best players in
Florida right now.

Reds second baseman Brandon Phillips said, "It would have been embarrassing"
to lose to whoever the U.S. played and not advance to whatever the next round
is called. I understand. He feels like he is representing his country. He
cares. That's great.

But I would not have been embarrassed. I don't know any American who would
have been embarrassed. Even if you care madly about the concept of baseball
as America's game, you can't pretend Luke Gregorson is David Price. To the
average sports fan, this is like somebody got bored in spring training and
decided to play a pickup game to mix things up.

I don't see how that will ever change. Executives can't move the WBC to a
better time of year, because there is no better time. They can't hold it
every year because star participation would go down, not up. And they can't
get pitchers to change their minds, unless they come up with a way to make
pitchers really stupid.

So, enjoy the WBC, fellas. I'm sure it's cool to be a part of it, and go
ahead and market your bad selves. I'll see you when baseball season starts.

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推 davidex:要決鬥了？
→ Sparksfly:這問題根本就無解
推 tommy910174:我看今年冠軍賽又是日荷 然後看日本血洗荷蘭的1A投手
→ tommy910174:群
推 phairst:回歸到最基本的運動精神,輸贏實力是一回事,對於比賽的
→ phairst:重視度還有求勝心是評斷一支球隊最基本的方式.
推 mikeneko:的確  對投手來說多準備那一個月不就表示季末會更疲軟
→ mikeneko:再說WBC冠軍哪比的上200M合約呢
→ phairst:其實我還滿欽佩這次美國隊有拚勁的球員~
→ searoar:自衛文
推 sxxs: 應該改成威廉波特賽制
→ Sparksfly:    我也覺得有點阿Q
推 andwhose:請問外國有抵制威廉波特賽制(明顯對美國有利)嗎？
推 cd12631:威廉波特就夏令營式比賽 少棒志在參加不在得獎吧
→ tucker:自辦夏令營，不爽不要打 抵制才奇怪吧?
推 LWK:就輸了在嘴砲啊
→ padrone:馬林魚拿世界冠軍時 也沒多少人覺得他們是世界最強
→ padrone:MLB不過是個展覽?
→ lingsk:傲嬌作者 說自己沒看卻知道米國隊有誰
→ cd12631:我其實不太懂嘴巴上說不在意卻又硬要寫一篇出來戰
→ abc12812:11號寫的 那時美國還沒輸吧
→ sxxs: 因為害怕會輸 打預防針很難懂嗎
推 cd12631:美國人說穿了就是不爽美國沒派出他們認為最好的陣容吧
推 birdy590:這篇寫的是事實 以現在的賽制一堆強者不會冒著風險下來打
→ birdy590:而且因為打完對生涯是負面影響, 誘因反而還會愈來愈差
→ birdy590:惟一的解套法可能只有縮短球季, 把它塞在球季中間一途
→ birdy590:看到目前的比賽內容 熱血有餘 比賽強度卻很有問題
推 cd12631:比賽強度我覺得已經勝過前兩屆了
→ searoar:比賽強度有什麼問題?
→ searoar:就算把明星全找來 也是熱身不足OOXX
推 lion198:yes ,everything is a show
→ searoar:就算辦在球季中 也是季賽比較重要XXOO
→ cd12631:這屆明星說實話已經夠閃耀
→ birdy590:三月不是熱身而已 一大堆第一流球員根本不會考慮參加
→ birdy590:認為比賽強度很夠的, 100% 是平常根本就沒在看的
→ searoar:Dickey+GGon+Vogelsong+Kershaw+Verlander+Price+Cain
推 cd12631:第一流的球員沒來? 扣掉那些季末動手術和受傷的
→ birdy590:以美國隊而言 跟前兩屆比實在看不出哪裡閃耀了
→ searoar:組這種陣容出來才叫展覽會
→ cd12631:第一流沒來很少了
→ birdy590:現在這批球員是第一隊嗎? 你嘛幫幫忙
→ cd12631:果然 講半天只是認為"美國"沒出到最完全的
→ birdy590:不只是美國好嗎 只是各國缺的部位不盡相同
→ searoar:抱歉我100%沒在看 你自己聊吧
→ cd12631:那你可以講講看那些國家的那些一流球員是無傷無痛拒徵招的
推 tommy910174:感覺強的好像都留下來春訓了 美日韓都一樣
→ birdy590:球員不是看名字而已 連強度都判斷不出 就只是看熱鬧而已
推 phairst:WBC不是大家拿著槍指著MLB辦的,比賽時間也是MLB挑的~
→ phairst:比賽你辦的,時間你挑的,特別規則(投球限制)你訂的~
→ phairst:然後跟大家說我沒辦法徵召最好球員,就算徵招到也是在春訓
推 taiwanrules:人家中南美都可以徵招到米糕 熊貓 cano hanley reyes
→ taiwanrules:這些球員也並非無傷無痛, 身為主辦國, 還說出這種話
→ taiwanrules:只能說臉皮夠厚
推 burdette:打精典賽隊打者影響不大 但對投手有負面影響
推 taiwanrules:我還很驚訝川哥和cruz 竟然會參加
→ cd12631:投手我可以理解 調整不過來真的就放棄參賽
→ cd12631:但每一國的投手幾乎都一堆人放棄參加
→ burdette:中美洲的MLB球員 似乎參賽的意願比美國籍球員高
→ taiwanrules:投手也還好吧 我看美國都是開賽前幾天才集合的
→ cd12631:但重點是....美國隊的投手攤開來還是比其他國強.....
→ taiwanrules:用球數都有嚴格限制
推 burdette:把WBC當春訓其實也不錯阿XD
推 bahamuto:川哥都打三屆了..
推 hayato01:如果真的當春訓打，應該很多人看不下去
推 mott:明明一堆選手都超認真 只有某些人還在以春訓當理由
推 Dimitre:LUB
推 eric0925a:推MOTT 自己不認真輸了要怪誰
推 Y1999:整屆WBC，就韓國跟美國理由特別多..
推 yankeefat:吉普森表示
推 scjh123:美國隊絕對不會想輸球..但普遍美國人不care經典賽也是事實
→ scjh123:這種情形wbc再辦10屆應該都會是如此...
推 tommy910174:我看就算荷蘭跟義大利奪冠他們國內也不知道有這回事吧
→ cd12631:荷蘭網站有報導啦 不至於不知道
→ cd12631:當年荷蘭拿下末代世界盃冠軍時本來總a以為沒人知
→ cd12631:結果一回到荷蘭一出海關就看到滿多記者等著採訪他
→ searoar:台灣剛打完冰球世錦賽U18也沒人知道 so wut
推 bbo9527:贏的了就不是這副嘴臉囉
推 TaiwanNeko:這種既累又沒有對等報酬的事，想去做的人本來就少
→ TaiwanNeko:不小心受傷還會影響下份合約，甚至終結球員生涯
→ TaiwanNeko:你有看到台電員工假日沒事表演爬電線桿嗎？
推 hbk20491:那 多明尼加 或其他隊的mlb選手是? cano今年最後一年
→ hbk20491:還參加 他是??????????
推 yeah8466:有沒有美國選手比起其他國較沒興趣參賽的八卦
→ Sparksfly:那我收回阿Q二字 不過依舊無解
推 JoshBeckeet:美職世界最強聯盟 不代表美國隊最強 這要分開看
→ JoshBeckeet:不管美國隊可以組幾隊明星隊 他打輸就是打輸...
推 mepass:經典賽真的就打好玩的而已啊 MLB產值這麼大
→ mepass:任何一個選手受傷 都是重大損失
推 ClutchShot:MLB季賽真的太長了
推 phairst:舉爬電線桿當例子就要問問為什麼台電公司要在假日辦爬
→ phairst:電線桿搶修電力比賽.辦比賽就算了還特別挑在假日~
→ phairst:然後徵召不到表現最好的員工,輸給其他國家的電力公司
→ phairst:然後理由很多這樣~
推 Ivers:LUB
推 hakkacandy:因為我們美國隊沒派最好的 所以這WBC沒意義拉～
→ hakkacandy:而且我根本也沒看比賽咧～ ->我看完文章感覺大意是這樣
推 hakkacandy:大家可以去看WBC的fb 一堆美國人留言說沒意義 沒再看
→ hakkacandy:還蠻有趣的
推 jerryklu:美國人不理其實也沒怎樣，亞洲、歐洲參賽隊伍都很努力打
→ jerryklu:球迷也不是傻子，自己國家隊有沒有努力自己也知道
→ jerryklu:打久了，發現大家玩得開心，美國球迷自己逐漸希望US可以
→ jerryklu:認真打，問題不就解了?  當然沒有辦法持續也就是枉然...
推 birdy590:影響最大的投手 各國缺陣最多的主要也都是投手
→ birdy590:試想一個投手一年 200 局算很累, 年輕的可能只有 180 IP
→ birdy590:如果把 20 局移到三月 意味著到九月就會有可能撐不下去
推 IronChef:我覺得這篇還是自我感覺良好論 美帝的國球就是贏球
→ IronChef:是因為鄉民幹礁的不夠大聲 我猜總有一天美帝輸到拖褲後
→ IronChef:鄉民會暴動 然後某年2月就看到80個美帝精兵提早報到
→ IronChef:人人帶著啤酒, 炸雞, 球棒, 還有AR-15開始訓練
推 ROCAF:                                要開M1A2去春訓基地嗎
推 lion500:籃球夢幻隊在奧運輸了兩次後，整個訓練與人員都大加強
→ lion500:後來奪回冠軍，其實就看美國的重視程度而已
推 felix1984:打輸就在那邊說不重要的比賽 承認技不如人很難嗎
→ lion500:小國的國家榮譽會重視在wbc上，球員自然壓力大
→ lion500:其實比賽強度來說，我覺得不會輸給大聯盟季後賽了
推 lion500:不過這麼早就燃燒自己，後面的季賽會出事的機率比較高
推 cd12631:啤酒炸機XD
→ SlamKai:那就WBC跟著MLB季後賽混著一起打好了  爭奪世界冠軍
推 lovecmgirls:場上認真是一回事 調整的好不好又是一回事
噓 greenpeace21:LUB還敢大聲?  而且美國隊明明超拚，輸了就是輸了
推 udm:初音不過是個軟體。愛惜生命，拒絕單挑圍毆。(逃)
噓 bigpujols:釣魚王
推 Edraison:看完文章後真覺得很LUB~ 原來沒派出最好的球員 美國人不
→ Edraison:太關心 所以叫展覽不叫比賽? 真是苦了認真比賽的球員和那
→ Edraison:些關心比賽的國家
推 rahim03:我看了比賽後 不覺得參賽的美國隊員也是當展覽在比賽
→ rahim03:既然參賽的隊員也不乏大喀 又沒有不認真 旁邊喊不重要
→ rahim03:沒意義 像展覽 不覺得很奇怪嗎
推 Xmmmmmmmmmmm:同意樓上 這樣一方面輕視代表美國出賽的球員
→ Xmmmmmmmmmmm:人家也是來認真比賽的 想春訓就拒絕徵招就好了
→ Xmmmmmmmmmmm:何必來這春訓又惹來罵名 結果換你自大美帝人一句
→ Xmmmmmmmmmmm:"沒人在乎" 這樣一口氣嗆到全世界來認真打WBC的球員
→ Xmmmmmmmmmmm:而且管你wbc是第幾級賽事 用認真態度面對比賽很奇怪?
推 jkl852:完全就阿q阿 要嗆不重視就先拿次冠軍再說吧
推 qwerty110:美國隊超拼的好嗎? 根本沒在管受傷的 燃燒撲接不斷
推 eric0925a:要比賽誰會想要輸阿 美國媒體老是說什麼不重要沒認真打
→ eric0925a:對於那麼多為了國家榮譽而戰的球員是種侮辱吧
→ jerryklu:完全同意樓上
推 GuiGui:LUB
推 waiani:事實上就是場邊在乎眼光的人想找理由下台階罷了...
→ waiani:而參賽者不管怎看也不會是不重視比賽的樣子
推 tsming:LUB
噓 goodblessu:前兩屆閃耀 還是輸阿  有差?
→ tgbkkk:因為美國就很怕輸了沒面子只好先打預防針
推 samtino:LUB
→ tommy910174:細膩出局 日謎崩潰
→ mosic:說美國都不在乎的，完全抹煞了部分認真比賽球員的努力
→ mosic:可能不像季後賽那麼拚，但也不可能有人想趕快輸打包回家的
→ ykm80214:哪天贏了就會說隨便派人都贏
→ j3307002:LUBXD
→ sneak: 舉爬電線桿當例子就要問 https://noxiv.com